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Posted: 4/22/2016 7:54:53 AM EDT
If we cannot do it here, then how the hell do we expect voters to do it. I am gritting my teeth, but I think Trump has the best chance to beat Billary. I am throwing down my Cruz gauntlet and backing the guy with the best chance.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 7:57:08 AM EDT
Prepare for incoming snivelers.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:01:17 AM EDT
Well, he does believe that you should be able to go into whatever bathroom you feel like going into. There's that.



Oh, and I think I heard we've only seen Donald 1.0, and the Donald that can appeal to the broader electorate is forthcoming.




Prepare for Donald 2.0.   If I had to guess, he will look a lot like the Donald before his recent faux conservative conversion (I.e. Liberal Democrat)




The bathroom comment was just the beginning, prepare thy anuses
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:14:23 AM EDT
The time to back one candidate is the general.
Vote for your guy in the primaries.

Why I have to explain this to adults is beyond me.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:16:36 AM EDT
I am backing one candidate.
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The time to back one candidate is the general.

Vote for your guy in the primaries.



Why I have to explain this to adults is beyond me.


 
Yup.



The primaries should be a whole lot shorter though.



I want it all done in one month max.  Every state on the same day is optimal though.



RNC/GOPe likes a long drawn out process because they are a private organization and making money off it all.



 
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I voted Cruz in primaries. I will vote GOP to beat Hillary.

I always vote and I always vote for the MOST conservative candidate.
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I voted Cruz in primaries. I will vote GOP to beat Hillary.

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The time to back one candidate is the general.
Vote for your guy in the primaries.

Why I have to explain this to adults is beyond me.


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I voted Cruz in primaries. I will vote GOP to beat Hillary.

I always vote and I always vote for the MOST conservative candidate.


QFT.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:28:29 AM EDT
Anyone but bernie or hillary.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:30:16 AM EDT
Cruz is the candidate that can beat Hillary and he is the one who will pick the right people for the Supreme Court. Trump has been getting a lot of push from the liberal New York media for a reason.  They want Hillary to be the next president.

Trump will have a couple of good primaries; and then it is over for him.

I am with one candidate too, CRUZ 2016.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:32:34 AM EDT
In before the anyone but trump chuckleheads
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Cruz is the candidate that can beat Hillary and he is the one who will pick the right people for the Supreme Court. Trump has been getting a lot of push from the liberal New York media for a reason.  They want Hillary to be the next president.

Trump will have a couple of good primaries; and then it is over for him.

I am with one candidate too, CRUZ 2016.
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I'm with you
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:46:36 AM EDT
I've got a feeling you are right OP.

It's a big feeling... ya know.

A lot of people tell me it's a great feeling.

And it is a great feeling.  A big great feeling that your right OP.

I hear that all the time about my great big feeling.

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The primaries should be a whole lot shorter though.

I want it all done in one month max.  Every state on the same day is optimal though.

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The legislatures of the several states determine the date of primary elections.

The legislators set the date for the primary in their state when it is convenient for the most important people in the world - the state legislators.

Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:53:44 AM EDT
Anyone but Hillary.  Period, point blank.  Fuck your feels.  Vote for whoever is opposite Hillary.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 8:57:01 AM EDT
What makes you think Trump has even the remotest chance of beating Hillary? Most polls show him losing by double digits. Most conservatives hate him. Why do you think he has any chance at winning?
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Where is your evidence to support the notion that Trump can beat Hillary?

The national match-up polls say he can't.

The state match-up polls say he'll get slaughtered in the electoral college. Traditionally red states are turning into battlegrounds, and battlegrounds turn into democrat locks.

The favorability polls say he's the only candidate running with worse negatives than Hillary.

The ridiculous, delusional notion that he'll take NY was demolished by two democrat votes to every republican vote. And that was with lackluster turnout.

Trump's absurd pledge of self-funding will see him going after Hillary's billions with paltry tens of millions, and relying on the generosity of the leftist media for free air time. He hasn't sold any properties to raise money for primary infrastructure, so odds are he won't sell much of anything to raise money for general election infrastructure, especially since even he has got to know that it would just be money wasted. The guy is a businessman first and foremost. He's not going to pauperize himself in a fight he can't win.

Trump is the wrong candidate to back and always has been. A Trump nomination would be a historic mistake.

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There are anyone but Cruz chuckleheads as well. Are they ok then?
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Where is your evidence to support the notion that Trump can beat Hillary?

The national match-up polls say he can't.

The state match-up polls say he'll get slaughtered in the electoral college. Traditionally red states are turning into battlegrounds, and battlegrounds turn into democrat locks.

The favorability polls say he's the only candidate running with worse negatives than Hillary.

The ridiculous, delusional notion that he'll take NY was demolished by two democrat votes to every republican vote. And that was with lackluster turnout.

Trump's absurd pledge of self-funding will see him going after Hillary's billions with paltry tens of millions, and relying on the generosity of the leftist media for free air time. He hasn't sold any properties to raise money for primary infrastructure, so odds are he won't sell much of anything to raise money for general election infrastructure, especially since even he has got to know that it would just be money wasted. The guy is a businessman first and foremost. He's not going to pauperize himself in a fight he can't win.

Trump is the wrong candidate to back and always has been. A Trump nomination would be a historic mistake.

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If we cannot do it here, then how the hell do we expect voters to do it. I am gritting my teeth, but I think Trump has the best chance to beat Billary. I am throwing down my Cruz gauntlet and backing the guy with the best chance.


Where is your evidence to support the notion that Trump can beat Hillary?

The national match-up polls say he can't.

The state match-up polls say he'll get slaughtered in the electoral college. Traditionally red states are turning into battlegrounds, and battlegrounds turn into democrat locks.

The favorability polls say he's the only candidate running with worse negatives than Hillary.

The ridiculous, delusional notion that he'll take NY was demolished by two democrat votes to every republican vote. And that was with lackluster turnout.

Trump's absurd pledge of self-funding will see him going after Hillary's billions with paltry tens of millions, and relying on the generosity of the leftist media for free air time. He hasn't sold any properties to raise money for primary infrastructure, so odds are he won't sell much of anything to raise money for general election infrastructure, especially since even he has got to know that it would just be money wasted. The guy is a businessman first and foremost. He's not going to pauperize himself in a fight he can't win.

Trump is the wrong candidate to back and always has been. A Trump nomination would be a historic mistake.



Cruz has Zero chance.
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Where is your evidence to support the notion that Trump can beat Hillary?

The national match-up polls say he can't.

The state match-up polls say he'll get slaughtered in the electoral college. Traditionally red states are turning into battlegrounds, and battlegrounds turn into democrat locks.

The favorability polls say he's the only candidate running with worse negatives than Hillary.

The ridiculous, delusional notion that he'll take NY was demolished by two democrat votes to every republican vote. And that was with lackluster turnout.

Trump's absurd pledge of self-funding will see him going after Hillary's billions with paltry tens of millions, and relying on the generosity of the leftist media for free air time. He hasn't sold any properties to raise money for primary infrastructure, so odds are he won't sell much of anything to raise money for general election infrastructure, especially since even he has got to know that it would just be money wasted. The guy is a businessman first and foremost. He's not going to pauperize himself in a fight he can't win.

Trump is the wrong candidate to back and always has been. A Trump nomination would be a historic mistake.

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If we cannot do it here, then how the hell do we expect voters to do it. I am gritting my teeth, but I think Trump has the best chance to beat Billary. I am throwing down my Cruz gauntlet and backing the guy with the best chance.


Where is your evidence to support the notion that Trump can beat Hillary?

The national match-up polls say he can't.

The state match-up polls say he'll get slaughtered in the electoral college. Traditionally red states are turning into battlegrounds, and battlegrounds turn into democrat locks.

The favorability polls say he's the only candidate running with worse negatives than Hillary.

The ridiculous, delusional notion that he'll take NY was demolished by two democrat votes to every republican vote. And that was with lackluster turnout.

Trump's absurd pledge of self-funding will see him going after Hillary's billions with paltry tens of millions, and relying on the generosity of the leftist media for free air time. He hasn't sold any properties to raise money for primary infrastructure, so odds are he won't sell much of anything to raise money for general election infrastructure, especially since even he has got to know that it would just be money wasted. The guy is a businessman first and foremost. He's not going to pauperize himself in a fight he can't win.

Trump is the wrong candidate to back and always has been. A Trump nomination would be a historic mistake.


They think he can beat her because they cannot think past the primaries. Tons of people going to vote FOR Clinton just to stop Trump if he makes it that far. He is the only candidate hated more then Hillary. I know of liberals that actually hate Hillary as much as I do but hate Trump even more. Folks that would have stayed home, will be coming out of the woodwork to vote against Trump.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:20:39 AM EDT
FWIW I don't believe the OP when he says they were a Cruz supporter. Pretty much everyone that says that, turns out they were Trump from the git go.
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LOL

Not over till you get to 1237
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Anyone but Hillary.  Period, point blank.  Fuck your feels.  Vote for whoever is opposite Hillary.
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Ayup....
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:25:49 AM EDT

I'm gonna write in my perfect candidate. I will no longer hold my nose to vote.


#muhfeels

#muhintegrity

#letitburn





Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:26:03 AM EDT
Vote for whoever you want in the primary, but the bashing  of candidates on our side is beyond foolish.

#neverhillary.
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Not me.
Cruz or Trump 2016
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Yup. This has been a fairly consistent strategy from the Trump camp. Falsely claiming to have been a Cruz supporter until *insert manufactured outrage event here*.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:30:29 AM EDT
Not until the convention is over. What is happening now is cathartic for the party, hashing all of this out is good for the process. The sticky part is going to be setting aside our differences and forging on after the convention.



Reince Priebus needs to be on TV every night praising both candidates for fighting until the bitter end, because that is what Americans do, we finish the fight, we give our last full measure and then when it's over we link arms and kick everybody else's ass.




But, that's what winners would do.






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Absolutely this.
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not true, I was a long time supporter of Cruz till Chicago disaster. he either does not understand the enemy or failed to identify them instead turned on Trump.





if you are too stupid to know that Soros, moveon, color of change,BLM, open society, etc were behind the trump attacks in Chicago than how in the hell can you be president?

 






it works this way, corrupt government gives money to acorn and other community organizers, they then use that money to attack their political opponents, for a reward corrupt government then gives more money.





you need to

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/

 
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True

But discussing this now is important to convince the people saying they will stay home and not vote if their candidate isn't the guy who wins the nomination

The 2 threads in GD right now about Hillary and her daughter talking about focusing on guns should be a wake up call that we can't afford to lose this election by not voting

That bitch WILL fuck us royally.


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Cruz has Zero chance.
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If we cannot do it here, then how the hell do we expect voters to do it. I am gritting my teeth, but I think Trump has the best chance to beat Billary. I am throwing down my Cruz gauntlet and backing the guy with the best chance.


Where is your evidence to support the notion that Trump can beat Hillary?

The national match-up polls say he can't.

The state match-up polls say he'll get slaughtered in the electoral college. Traditionally red states are turning into battlegrounds, and battlegrounds turn into democrat locks.

The favorability polls say he's the only candidate running with worse negatives than Hillary.

The ridiculous, delusional notion that he'll take NY was demolished by two democrat votes to every republican vote. And that was with lackluster turnout.

Trump's absurd pledge of self-funding will see him going after Hillary's billions with paltry tens of millions, and relying on the generosity of the leftist media for free air time. He hasn't sold any properties to raise money for primary infrastructure, so odds are he won't sell much of anything to raise money for general election infrastructure, especially since even he has got to know that it would just be money wasted. The guy is a businessman first and foremost. He's not going to pauperize himself in a fight he can't win.

Trump is the wrong candidate to back and always has been. A Trump nomination would be a historic mistake.



Cruz has Zero chance.

So you've got no evidence. It's sad to see that the leftists aren't the only ones beholden to their feelings.
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Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:34:27 AM EDT
Concur with you Bubbleheaddiver.  Having stopped believing in the two party system and career politicians, I see both Herren Hitlery and Cruise as the establishment's choices for us.  Both are beholden to Goldman Sac o' Sh*t and both will sell us down the toilet the minute they take the oath of office.

I prefer outsiders as they are hated by the controllers.  It's not that they can turn things around but they can slow down the chipping away of America and the transition to Amerika.  To turn things around would require a recall of almost all elected officials and the undoing of the work of Woody Wilson and his successors.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:35:24 AM EDT
Cruz 2016


ETA: I just heard on of Trump's people on Fox talking about how Presidential Trump was going to be.

He'll be just like Romney!"

No shit
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Getting ahead of ourselves here, aren't we? When we HAVE one nominee, THEN we get behind him. We are still in the selection portion yet.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:37:58 AM EDT
Did I miss the convention? Did Trump get 1237 delegates? No? Ok then, nothing has changed.

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Yup.



The primaries should be a whole lot shorter though.



I want it all done in one month max.  Every state on the same day is optimal though.



RNC/GOPe likes a long drawn out process because they are a private organization and making money off it all.

 
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The time to back one candidate is the general.

Vote for your guy in the primaries.



Why I have to explain this to adults is beyond me.


 
Yup.



The primaries should be a whole lot shorter though.



I want it all done in one month max.  Every state on the same day is optimal though.



RNC/GOPe likes a long drawn out process because they are a private organization and making money off it all.

 




 
If it was all on the same day, or even the same month, we'd be splitting all our votes between 17 candidates. Drawing it out allows for candidates to fail, lose funding, and drop out. This convention is going to be a nightmare with 2 contenders. Imagine it with 10.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:42:29 AM EDT
With Cruz, we have an uncompromising hardliner. His hard negatives to a big chunk of the population are caused primarily by the fact those people are stupid, and focus on mundane shit that doesn't matter, and are sick and tired of hardliners. With a hardliner president, nothing gets done in Washington. I'm backing Cruz because I like hard liners that have the balls to stick to their principles, and while I don't agree with him on everything, I agree with him on the issues I care most about.



With Trump, we have a populist leader who is perfectly willing to make compromises on anything. His hard negatives come from his past flip flops, the incendiary campaign rhetoric that stupid people think he's serious about, and his lack of concrete policy proposals. A Trump presidency will likely result in increased cooperation with congress. I'm concerned about what the cost of this will be. A frankly have no idea what his principles are. The complete disregard for political correctness is refreshing, but other than that, I don't see any positives about trump.



I will stay firmly in the Cruz camp until the convention. If Trump gets the nomination, I will begrudgingly vote for him. I figure at worst, he'll be as bad as Hillary, and at best, he might be a lot better than Hillary. I'll take that chance.



Note: When I say stupid people, I mean people focused on physical appearance and the "tone" of the rhetoric rather than the substance of the rhetoric, policy proposals and/or political history, i.e. the folks who hate Cruz because he's creepy or hate Trump because MSNBC said he's going to put Muslims and/or Mexicans in gulags.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:43:17 AM EDT
Would Ted, Trump, or Ted/Trump Trump/Ted beat Hillary the hardest?
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If we cannot do it here, then how the hell do we expect voters to do it. I am gritting my teeth, but I think Trump has the best chance to beat Billary. I am throwing down my Cruz gauntlet and backing the guy with the best chance.


Where is your evidence to support the notion that Trump can beat Hillary?

The national match-up polls say he can't.

The state match-up polls say he'll get slaughtered in the electoral college. Traditionally red states are turning into battlegrounds, and battlegrounds turn into democrat locks.

The favorability polls say he's the only candidate running with worse negatives than Hillary.

The ridiculous, delusional notion that he'll take NY was demolished by two democrat votes to every republican vote. And that was with lackluster turnout.

Trump's absurd pledge of self-funding will see him going after Hillary's billions with paltry tens of millions, and relying on the generosity of the leftist media for free air time. He hasn't sold any properties to raise money for primary infrastructure, so odds are he won't sell much of anything to raise money for general election infrastructure, especially since even he has got to know that it would just be money wasted. The guy is a businessman first and foremost. He's not going to pauperize himself in a fight he can't win.

Trump is the wrong candidate to back and always has been. A Trump nomination would be a historic mistake.



Cruz has Zero chance.


Based on what?  All I see is 'mah feelz' with no concrete evidence. Polling, ability to debate policy, able to articulate his position coherently? He's flip-flops on issues, he's being 'handled' by his new campaign director and his buddy; Hillary is licking her chops at squaring off against Donny in the general.

Yes, yes I'll very likely vote for Trump if he's the nominee (vomiting in the voting booth,) but it will be futile. At least with Cruz I'll be proud to cast that vote and if he looses, we at least put up a stark conversitive choice. No more voting for democrat lite and full on socialism; lets get this over with and decide.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:48:14 AM EDT
As Trump and Cruz camps fight and have pissing matches, Hillary is working on winning the Presidency. Trump and Cruz camps will be fighting and arguing for the next 8 years as Hillary rules America. Just my .02.
Link Posted: 4/22/2016 9:49:16 AM EDT
It's been said hundreds of times here, Trump polls worse against Hillary than anyone else.

Just vote for who you want in the primary.
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But but the 1237 requirement was rigged to be against Trump. Even though it was set up before he ever considered running. But they went back in time to prevent him from winning. Or some shit like that.
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Cruz 2016


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I heard him in an interview yesterday. When asked about being presidential he said "I'm going to be presidential, I'll be so presidential you're going to be sick of it"
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Did I miss the convention? Did Trump get 1237 delegates? No? Ok then, nothing has changed.


But but the 1237 requirement was rigged to be against Trump. Even though it was set up before he ever considered running. But they went back in time to prevent him from winning. Or some shit like that.

This
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I have been against Trump since the beginning but I do feel like we all need to get on board with him.

A good VP pick could really be a good help, but he sure as hell won't be helped by in party fighting all summer.
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His VP pick will be as liberal at heart as he is.  Universal healthcare is not normally a conservative idea.
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I have been against Trump since the beginning but I do feel like we all need to get on board with him.

A good VP pick could really be a good help, but he sure as hell won't be helped by in party fighting all summer.

His VP pick will be as liberal at heart as he is.  Universal healthcare is not normally a conservative idea.


You're going to get single payer during the next presidency no matter who is elected including Cruz.
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