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Posted: 4/14/2006 8:44:13 AM EST
Your thoughts on how the Chinese will take us disrupting their biggest oil supplier and how the Russians will like the possibility of their biggest client state evaporating?

Where do you see Israel in this?
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:47:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Where do you see Israel in this?




Time for us to give them a green light, and Israel to "sack up."

Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:48:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Where do you see Israel in this?




Time for us to give them a green light, and Israel to "sack up."




I don't think Omert has the sacks nor do his people. You dont elect centrists when you have resolve.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:02:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Where do you see Israel in this?




Time for us to give them a green light, and Israel to "sack up."




I don't think Omert has the sacks nor do his people. You dont elect centrists when you have resolve.



Yep, he's a reformed conservative cum centrist liberal and probably doesn't have the rollers to do what needs to be done. Maybe after Tel Aviv is a smoking hole? I would have voted for cast iron Netin Yahu (sic).
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:11:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Captain_Picard:

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Where do you see Israel in this?




Time for us to give them a green light, and Israel to "sack up."




I don't think Omert has the sacks nor do his people. You dont elect centrists when you have resolve.



Yep, he's a reformed conservative cum centrist liberal and probably doesn't have the rollers to do what needs to be done. Maybe after Tel Aviv is a smoking hole? I would have voted for cast iron Netin Yahu (sic).



Theoreticaly Israel is a one nuke target the EMP blast would shut it all down.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:17:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Originally Posted By Captain_Picard:

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Mattl:

Where do you see Israel in this?




Time for us to give them a green light, and Israel to "sack up."




I don't think Omert has the sacks nor do his people. You dont elect centrists when you have resolve.



Yep, he's a reformed conservative cum centrist liberal and probably doesn't have the rollers to do what needs to be done. Maybe after Tel Aviv is a smoking hole? I would have voted for cast iron Netin Yahu (sic).



Theoreticaly Israel is a one nuke target the EMP blast would shut it all down.



It becomes a simple equation when you have no second chances, preemption = survival.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 10:59:12 AM EST
Bump for opinions and predictions.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:04:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mattl:
Where do you see Israel in this?



Same place they always are. Just north of the Sinai.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:29:25 AM EST
I have not doubt that Israel and the USA both already have contingency plans in place for this specific scenario.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 11:32:15 AM EST
Use these
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 12:00:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/14/2006 3:15:20 PM EST by AROptics]
meh
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 12:05:07 PM EST
Thoughts on Iran?

It was a pretty good song from the 80's by Flock of Seagulls... I haven't heard it in a while though..
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 12:28:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
Thoughts on Iran?

It was a pretty good song from the 80's by Flock of Seagulls... I haven't heard it in a while though..



"And I raaaan, I ran so far awaaaay...I couldn't get away!"
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 5:56:13 PM EST
In before some douchebag tries to tell us that Russia is no threat whatsoever and that even if a proxy war with Russia erupts into a direct confrontation, we will whip their asses handily
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 6:00:59 PM EST
I defer to Rummy.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 6:02:31 PM EST
Fuck it .. Let's just get it on ! Get it over with !
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 6:03:39 PM EST
Trident D5s and Minuteman IIIs.

Lots of 'em.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 6:04:25 PM EST
The only thought I have on this is uhh.... LETS BOMB THE SHIT OUT OF THEM. They have it coming come on.

Iran: We tested a under water stealth missile and we fired it from our stealth boat.
Me: I guess a boat made out of wood we be considered stealth.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 6:05:36 PM EST
Personally,(And i may be wrong here) to topple Iran, all we have to do is bare our fangs and growl.

I think the average Iranian WANTS to be invaded to get rid of the clerical government.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 6:10:04 PM EST
Russia is no threat whatsoever and that even if a proxy war with Russia erupts into a direct confrontation, we will whip their asses handily.

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Originally Posted By PeteCO:
In before some douchebag tries to tell us that Russia is no threat whatsoever and that even if a proxy war with Russia erupts into a direct confrontation, we will whip their asses handily



Didn't want to disappoint you.

Yeah, I've been drinking.

Link Posted: 4/14/2006 6:11:31 PM EST
We need to finish Iraq before we start Iran unless forced to start Iran.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 7:23:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By piccolo:
Personally,(And i may be wrong here) to topple Iran, all we have to do is bare our fangs and growl.

I think the average Iranian WANTS to be invaded to get rid of the clerical government.[/quote]


These are the persians far from your average dumbass lazy retreating conscript. Learn your history they may not want the mullahs, they definitely do not want us! Bombing campaign and decapitation strikes only.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 7:27:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/14/2006 7:29:42 PM EST by Sandguard]
We (USA) will bomb their nuclear facilities before 10/06. We will warn them not to retaliate and offer not to go after their infrastructure. If they're smart they'll listen. China and Russia won't do shit. Israel will not get involved.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 7:48:40 PM EST
Bush will take a shot at stopping them because he knows no one after him will have the stones to do anything. Israel may play a part but we will try to never admit it. IMO Regardless, I predict some bad mojo for the region for years to come.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 7:56:33 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/14/2006 7:57:11 PM EST by Sukebe]
I say we call Irans bluff. Goad them into making their money shot. Why not? They can't reach us anyway. One of our subs could finish them off within a few minutes. Problem solved, lets move on to North Korea.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:14:11 PM EST
i'd like to see the USA break bad in a nuclear way---once all the mushroom clouds clear, we can stand our ground, looking all the other nations in the eye and dare anyone to say anything.

Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:24:23 PM EST
We've been feeding hundreds of billions of dollars to a bunch of fanatic lunatics for decades. I'm awaiting the most obvious result.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:30:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By NotoriousSEG:
i'd like to see the USA break bad in a nuclear way---once all the mushroom clouds clear, we can stand our ground, looking all the other nations in the eye and dare anyone to say anything.




Well at least you gave clarity to this issue : www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=455012

My only other thought about this is one word : Hegemony
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:41:16 PM EST

Originally Posted By Young-Kiwi:
My only other thought about this is one word : Hegemony



Says the subject of an insignificant island Commonwealth.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:47:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Sukebe:

Originally Posted By Young-Kiwi:
My only other thought about this is one word : Hegemony



Says the subject of an insignificant island Commonwealth.



Cool! you got the meaning of the word 100% correct.
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 8:48:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Young-Kiwi:

Originally Posted By Sukebe:

Originally Posted By Young-Kiwi:
My only other thought about this is one word : Hegemony



Says the subject of an insignificant island Commonwealth.



Cool! you got the meaning of the word 100% correct.



Next time you need someone to save your asses, just call. You still have the number right?
Link Posted: 4/14/2006 9:03:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/14/2006 9:06:36 PM EST by Young-Kiwi]

Originally Posted By Sukebe:

Originally Posted By Young-Kiwi:

Originally Posted By Sukebe:

Originally Posted By Young-Kiwi:
My only other thought about this is one word : Hegemony



Says the subject of an insignificant island Commonwealth.



Cool! you got the meaning of the word 100% correct.



Next time you need someone to save your asses, just call. You still have the number right?



Next time ? when was the last time ? The only country that has prepared invasion plans of NZ is the USA (during the Russian-Japan war (1904-1905)
(there are some small advantages to bring a valueless country at the end of the world)

Besides :
With the original post, I made no comment about the substance of the comment, more the reaction it would produce.

I expressed that comments made like that, and the attitude that all of USA's Allies HAVE to do what they say, or else, tends to produce reactions like that of UK citizens (added to the fact that most british are born with a negative attitude about everything anyway).

As an observer from none of the above countries, it's a pretty obvious link to me.

[BTW I did like that you replied with another hegemonic statement, you sir, are the king of subtle humour and dry wit, I congratulate you]
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