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Posted: 10/21/2016 6:09:16 AM EST
Not my words but I thought they were worth repeating.

"Standing by and allowing Hillary to become president without so much as casting a vote for the only person who stands in her way is the most un-American thing a person could do. It's allowing a murdering, thieving, treasonous felon in to the White House.

The very lack of action by a U.S. Citizen to prevent such a scenario is treason, it's turning your back on the constitution of the United States.

For a soldier, past or present, to stand by idly and not , at minimum, vote for the only person capable of stopping her is to break the oath taken to defend the constitution of these United States against enemies both foreign and domestic. It is to turn your back on ever soldier who has shed blood to protect the freedoms we hold dear.

There is only one choice. Only one option this election that doesn't end with a Supreme Court with complete and total disregard for the constitution it's sworn to uphold. There is only one choice that falls in line with the duty of anyone who has ever served this nation. There is only one choice for anyone who intends that their children enjoy the freedoms and liberty this nation was founded on.


Vote For Donald Trump in November. A Vote for anyone else is treason against the constitution of the United States and unforgivable in the eyes of Liberty.

Don't pout. Don't cry. Don't take your ball and go home. Don't make excuses. And don't turn your back on the nation countless lives have been given to protect. Stand up. Be a man. And vote for Trump. "





Link Posted: 10/21/2016 6:13:17 AM EST
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Ok.

ETA: 4, 8, 12, 16, 20 years from now (and on) someone is going to make the exact same argument why I should vote for an R that's identical to Hillary now because I'm a traitor to vote for whoever the D's are running that year. Not compelling.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 6:35:51 AM EST
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Probably true. But it is not 4,8,16 years from now. It is now. This will be the first election I have not voted for a libertarian for POTUS. If the libertarians had picked an actual libertarian candidate I would probably be voting "l".

The GOPe hate Trump so much that in my opinion the best way to kick them in the balls is to vote for Trump.

Trump may very well be a complete tool, but he may not be either. We KNOW what we are getting with FHRC.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:06:02 AM EST
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All professional democratic politicians are evil. Look at all the voter fraud. Those pricks need a kick in the balls.



I never voted for a dem and never will.




I agree not voting is not acceptable. Neither is voting third ticket or write in IMHO.



Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:10:54 AM EST
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How any solider, Veteran or their families can vote anyone but DJT is BEYOND me.
Anyone who served in the mid to late 90s got to feel the loathing, and outright hatred of their service and their continued care afterwards at the direct hands of the Klintons.
I agree anyone current and past who votes for Killary is committing treason.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:13:20 AM EST
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I am military and in my experience 95% are voting for trump.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:16:22 AM EST
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How any solider, Veteran American or their families can vote anyone but DJT is BEYOND me.


Anyone who served in the mid to late 90s got to feel the loathing, and outright hatred of their service and their continued care afterwards at the direct hands of the Klintons.


I agree anyone current and past who votes for Killary is committing treason.
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Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:21:28 AM EST
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Ok.

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no they wont.  If Hitlery wins, you wont have elections.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:27:28 AM EST
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no they wont.  If Hitlery wins, you wont have elections.
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Ok.

ETA: 4, 8, 12, 16, 20 years from now (and on) someone is going to make the exact same argument why I should vote for an R that's identical to Hillary now because I'm a traitor to vote for whoever the D's are running that year. Not compelling.


no they wont.  If Hitlery wins, you wont have elections.

I was actually thinking this as well, but I did not want to come across as hyperbolic.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:29:12 AM EST
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2 facts made me vote for Trump

Hillary will start a war if she is potus

She will destroy the 2nd amendment

FHRC
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:39:56 AM EST
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This whole argument presupposes that Trump is an alternative that actually is a defender of the Constitution.

Problem is he's not. He is a supporter of "no fly no buy" which is a violation of the Constitution in a number of ways. And that's but one example.

So if this guy really wants to be principled, he should advocate voting for someone who will actually defend the Constitution, instead of someone who will simply destroy it less.

Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:44:48 AM EST
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This whole argument presupposes that Trump is an alternative that actually is a defender of the Constitution.

Problem is he's not. He is a supporter of "no fly no buy" which is a violation of the Constitution in a number of ways. And that's but one example.

So if this guy really wants to be principled, he should advocate voting for someone who will actually defend the Constitution, instead of someone who will simply destroy it less.

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Who is that person this time around?
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:51:15 AM EST
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You're right.  You should probably just go ahead and vote for FHRC.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:52:36 AM EST
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Except this time a lot of republicans are telling you NOT to vote for Trump.  That is a sign that this time IS something different.

This election is not about republican vs democrat, it is not about liberal vs conservative.

This election is about the status quo of the parties vs something different, it is about kelptocracy vs a republic,

That should be compelling.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 7:52:55 AM EST
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This whole argument presupposes that Trump is an alternative that actually is a defender of the Constitution.

Problem is he's not. He is a supporter of "no fly no buy" which is a violation of the Constitution in a number of ways. And that's but one example.

So if this guy really wants to be principled, he should advocate voting for someone who will actually defend the Constitution, instead of someone who will simply destroy it less.

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So what do you propose as an alternative? Stay home?  The statist Johnson?  Write in?
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:23:59 AM EST
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So what do you propose as an alternative? Stay home?  The statist Johnson?  Write in?
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This whole argument presupposes that Trump is an alternative that actually is a defender of the Constitution.

Problem is he's not. He is a supporter of "no fly no buy" which is a violation of the Constitution in a number of ways. And that's but one example.

So if this guy really wants to be principled, he should advocate voting for someone who will actually defend the Constitution, instead of someone who will simply destroy it less.


So what do you propose as an alternative? Stay home?  The statist Johnson?  Write in?


There are a lot of options. You can vote for Trump, Hillary, Johnson, etc. Or you could write in. Or you could not vote.

That's not my point though. My point, with all due respect to this soldier, is that his argument is fucking retarded. He is saying it's treason to allow a candidate that undermines the Constitution to get elected and that the only option to prevent that is to vote for the OTHER candidate that wants to undermine the Constitution.

Vote for whoever you want. But let's not pretend that a vote for Trump would be a vote for a Constitutionalist.  That's laughable.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:31:37 AM EST
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So what do you propose as an alternative? Stay home?  The statist Johnson?  Write in?
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This whole argument presupposes that Trump is an alternative that actually is a defender of the Constitution.

Problem is he's not. He is a supporter of "no fly no buy" which is a violation of the Constitution in a number of ways. And that's but one example.

So if this guy really wants to be principled, he should advocate voting for someone who will actually defend the Constitution, instead of someone who will simply destroy it less.


So what do you propose as an alternative? Stay home?  The statist Johnson?  Write in?

They don't have one. No president Since Calvin Coolidge has stayed true to the Constitution in my humble opinion. Reagan and Eisenhower were close.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:47:01 AM EST
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Yesterday 2 Majors told me they'd rather have Hillary because Trump is "crazy".
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 8:51:15 AM EST
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Yesterday 2 Majors told me they'd rather have Hillary because Trump is "crazy".
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I am military and in my experience 95% are voting for trump.


Yesterday 2 Majors told me they'd rather have Hillary because Trump is "crazy".


Just don't even know what to say to that.
Link Posted: 10/21/2016 9:11:36 AM EST
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Yesterday 2 Majors told me they'd rather have Hillary because Trump is "crazy".
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I am military and in my experience 95% are voting for trump.


Yesterday 2 Majors told me they'd rather have Hillary because Trump is "crazy".



My personal experience in the Air Force was about 40-50% of officers were Dems, but only about 10% of enlisted personnel.

Most of the guys I still talk to have indicated they will be voting Trump, with one or two for Johnson.
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