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Posted: 9/20/2004 9:07:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 10:14:55 AM EST by Rip_Roarin_Wacko]
I found this on the web edition of the Arizona Republic.
This guy is so over the top I don't even know where to begin. Maybe with the foam-at-the-mouth NRA or 30-clip magazine references ?
Fire away. His email address is: Aleshire@cox.net


Bullet-riddled rifle ban explained

Peter Aleshire
Sept. 16, 2004 01:51 PM

I finally figured out why President Bush and the Republican Congress let the ban on assault weapons expire.

Initially, I thought Bush was just so afraid of the foam-at-the-mouth National Rifle Association that he was willing disagree with two thirds of the voters and flip-flop on his four-year-old campaign promise.

But then I read about the federal court case in New York that established that Osama bin Laden's boys bought 50 sniper rifles in the U.S. and shipped them to Afghanistan right before the U.S. invasion. Snipers can down helicopters and kill you at a range of half a mile with these .50 caliber rifles, which aren't included in the assault weapon ban.

So, obviously, Bush let the loophole-ridden assault weapon ban expire so he can quickly introduce a meaningful ban on the weapons terrorists, gang members, drug smugglers and general all purpose nut-cases could use to spread terror and mow down cops. Granted, the now dead ban did prevent the nutcases from buying 30-clip magazines, but left most of the most deadly weapons freely available. Clearly, we needed tough restrictions in these terrorist-tainted times.

I feel so bad for having doubted the President.

So expect that meaningful crackdown to protect American this week.

Next week at the latest.

Right?

George?

Are you there?



Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:08:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 9:10:06 AM EST by motown_steve]
Take the profanity out of your title before they lock this thread.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:10:31 AM EST
Really...

50 sniper rifles were bought in the USA and shipped to Afganistan to shoot down helicopters. 50 caliber rifles, no less...

Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:11:39 AM EST
IBTTTIE

In before the thread title is edited

Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:11:46 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:16:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:
Take the profanity out of your title before they lock this thread.



F'n-A, straight....
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:19:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 9:23:43 AM EST by captainpooby]
Not only did we give them sniper rifles we gave the stinger missiles as well to shoot the "Hind". It was good policy at the time.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:21:48 AM EST
edit your title
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:23:24 AM EST
How about asshatted farktard?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:23:46 AM EST
Gotta love the mini-mod patrol
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:23:58 AM EST
who exactly does this moron think he's addressing?
who is his audience?

Sure as hell isn't George Bush.
His grasp of politics is obviously VERY limited, not to mention his almost complete misunderstanding for what a "30-clip magazine" is.
Perhaps I should waste a few moments of my life asking for a definition for that term.
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:25:32 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:27:32 AM EST

Originally Posted By MMcCall:
Gotta love the mini-mod patrol



+1

gotta use the word "fucktard" more around the office
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 9:30:07 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 9:31:09 AM EST by mrphelps]

Originally Posted By druncuncas:

Originally Posted By MMcCall:
Gotta love the mini-mod patrol



+1

gotta use the word "fucktard" more around the office


+1
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:02:13 AM EST
Dear Mr. Aleshire,

I read your piece in the Arizona Republic, and I have a question. What are "30-clip magazines"? They sound big and mean and scary.

Thanks,
Chimborazo
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:08:59 AM EST
That is one huge magizine that takes 30 clips to load it. I WANT ONE!!!
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:17:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/20/2004 4:01:07 PM EST by nightstalker]

Originally Posted By captainpooby:
Not only did we give them sniper rifles we gave the stinger missiles as well to shoot the "Hind". It was good policy at the time.



We gave them everything including the tactics. Michael Vickers ran the war like his own little game of chess. From Charlie Wilson's War

In conjunction with President Zia of Pakistan in the 1980s, Wilson and Arvakotos circumvented most of the barriers to arming the Afghan mujahideen-distance, money, law and internal CIA politics, to name a few. Their coups included getting Israeli-modified Chinese weapons smuggled into Afghanistan, with the Pakistanis turning a blind eye, and the cultivation of a genius-level weapons designer and strategist named Michael Vickers, a key architect of the guerrilla campaign that left the Soviet army stymied. The ultimate weapon in Afghanistan was the portable Stinger anti-aircraft missile, which eliminated the Soviet's Mi-24 helicopter gunships and began the train of events leading to the collapse of the U.S.S.R. and its satellites. A triumph of ruthless ability over scruples, this story has dominated recent history in the form of blowback: many of the men armed by the CIA became the Taliban's murderous enforcers and Osama bin Laden's protectors. Yet superb writing from Crile, a 60 Minutes producer, will keep even the most vigorous critics of this Contra-like affair reading to the end.,
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:26:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By mrphelps:

Originally Posted By druncuncas:

Originally Posted By MMcCall:
Gotta love the mini-mod patrol



+1

gotta use the word "fucktard" more around the office


+1



Don't forget 'asstastic' and 'craptacular'
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:27:18 AM EST

30-clip magazines




Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:27:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By EagleArmsHBAR:
That is one huge magizine that takes 30 clips to load it. I WANT ONE!!!




Holy sh!t, that would be 300 rounds! Sure he's not talking about a belt-fed?
Link Posted: 9/20/2004 10:54:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By MMcCall:
Gotta love the mini-mod patrol



Sometimes half the people on this site remind me of that little brat you always had in your class in grade school, who ratted to the teacher whenever anyone did something "bad".
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 11:49:02 AM EST
LOL...what an ass captain.




From:
<aleshire@cox.net>

To:
Chimborazo <xxxxxxx@mac.com>

Date:
Mon Sep 20, 2004 04:01:37 PM PDT

Subject:
Re: Question...

Guess  I meant 30-shot clips, or something.

since 30, 30-shot clips would be like, well, a lot of bullets. I keep meaning to take my brain in to have it tuned, but I keep forgetting.

>
> From: Chimborazo <xxxxxxxx@mac.com>
> Date: 2004/09/20 Mon PM 02:17:35 EDT
> To: Aleshire@cox.net
> Subject: Question...
>
> Dear Mr. Aleshire,
>
> I read your piece in the Arizona Republic and I have a question.  What are "30-clip magazines"?  I have never heard of them.  They sound big and mean and scary.
>
> Thanks,
> Chimborazo
>

Link Posted: 9/27/2004 11:54:25 AM EST


since 30, 30-shot clips would be like, well, a lot of bullets. I keep meaning to take my brain in to have it tuned, but I keep forgetting.



Tuned? Hell, it's already blown. Toss it in the garbage and install a new one.


Link Posted: 9/27/2004 11:56:47 AM EST
Gotta link?
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:02:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By KBaker:
Gotta link?



Bullet-riddled rifle ban explained
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:08:15 PM EST
Thanx
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:15:02 PM EST
my letter to that asshat.

1.) Bush NEVER promised to renew it. He said specifically, if it ever came across his desk, he'd sign it. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less. He's kept his promise. You anti-freedom people just dropped the ball, that's all. So quit your bitching.

2.) It's quite clear but your article that you have no understanding of the word "criminal." Do you honestly think Al Qaeda is coming all the way here to the US to buy 50 caliber rifles when they can buy them in other countries in europe for less and easier? Also what makes you think they go to local gun dealers for that?

3.) As far as selling them to al qaeda goes, there's no need for them to buy them, they already have them. They bought a ton of them in the 80s during the soviet-afghan war. They were AMAC 50 caliber rifles by a company called Iver Johnson which I believe is now out of business. Again it's obvious you did no research what-so-ever.

4.) On every single poll I have ever been to with the exception of one, I have always seen the majority in FAVOR of the ban expiring. Not renewing. It'd be nice if you quit lying your ass off saying "oh the majority wants it renewed." What is the majority? 4 million NRA members? or 2,000 sorryass mothers from the million mom march and that socialist bitch, Sarah Brady?

5.) sidenote: it is true when they say that so-called "assault weapons" are no more dangerous than any other gun. They aren't anymore dangerous. It sounds like you've been watching too much Rambo, smoking crack and listening to the ramblings of someone like Dianne Feinstein and the VPC. You do realize it's in their best interests to lie to you? right? It's how they make their money and stay in power. By destroying peoples' rights. I like to think of it as Socialist Profiteering. A rather scummy and despicable way to make money. Gun laws have never protecting anyone. Why in the world would a crook go pay 700 bucks at the local gun dealer for a gun when he can go pay 70 bucks for a stolen/illegally smuggled one on the black market?

You are aware that millions of automatic weapons illegally cross our borders each year. In fact one major hotspot for illegal smuggling activity, aside from California, is Arizona. I suggest you check out exactly what's coming across the border there and once you do I'd love to see how you still defend a ban on these weapons being in the hands of law abiding citizens(since that's the only thing the ban affects. Criminals dont give a shit.)

It's quite obvious, by having read your article, you have no idea what you're talking about.


Most certainly NOT yours,
Vol
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 12:19:40 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2004 12:20:31 PM EST by Buzz407]
Weapons that can shatter concrete

Semiautomatic assault rifles have returned, and cops who face them know all too well what they can do

By PATRICE O'SHAUGHNESSY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Another Worthy Cause

EVIL EVIL AR15s <--link
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 1:51:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:03:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By KBaker:
My response to Mr. Aleshire



well done.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:07:02 PM EST
Tagged.

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:13:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By Rip_Roarin_Wacko:
I found this on the web edition of the Arizona Republic.
This guy is so over the top I don't even know where to begin. Maybe with the foam-at-the-mouth NRA or 30-clip magazine references ?
Fire away. His email address is: Aleshire@cox.net


Bullet-riddled rifle ban explained

Peter Aleshire
Sept. 16, 2004 01:51 PM

I finally figured out why President Bush and the Republican Congress let the ban on assault weapons expire.

Initially, I thought Bush was just so afraid of the foam-at-the-mouth National Rifle Association that he was willing disagree with two thirds of the voters and flip-flop on his four-year-old campaign promise.

But then I read about the federal court case in New York that established that Osama bin Laden's boys bought 50 sniper rifles in the U.S. and shipped them to Afghanistan right before the U.S. invasion. Snipers can down helicopters and kill you at a range of half a mile with these .50 caliber rifles, which aren't included in the assault weapon ban.

So, obviously, Bush let the loophole-ridden assault weapon ban expire so he can quickly introduce a meaningful ban on the weapons terrorists, gang members, drug smugglers and general all purpose nut-cases could use to spread terror and mow down cops. Granted, the now dead ban did prevent the nutcases from buying 30-clip magazines, but left most of the most deadly weapons freely available. Clearly, we needed tough restrictions in these terrorist-tainted times.

I feel so bad for having doubted the President.

So expect that meaningful crackdown to protect American this week.

Next week at the latest.

Right?

George?

Are you there?










Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:40:15 PM EST
Do a little research on the whacko. I've read things he wrote about mind control and chiracaua Indians. He's been an anti-gunner for years (at least 15).

Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:47:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/27/2004 2:47:31 PM EST by KBaker]

Originally Posted By Palo_Duro:
Do a little research on the whacko. I've read things he wrote about mind control and chiracaua Indians. He's been an anti-gunner for years (at least 15).


He's got an MA in journalism and teaches writing at ASU West . Just another ponytailed, Birkenstock-wearing college professor distorting the young skulls full of mush.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:47:52 PM EST

Originally Posted By paenutz:

Originally Posted By KBaker:
My response to Mr. Aleshire



well done.

Gracias!
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 2:57:06 PM EST

Originally Posted By KBaker:
My response to Mr. Aleshire



Very commendable. I missed that the first time around. Good job.

Link Posted: 9/27/2004 3:06:10 PM EST

Originally Posted By KBaker:
My response to Mr. Aleshire




You just go ahead and add a BIG +1 for me, ok?

Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:08:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Buzz407:
Weapons that can shatter concrete

Semiautomatic assault rifles have returned, and cops who face them know all too well what they can do

By PATRICE O'SHAUGHNESSY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Another Worthy Cause

EVIL EVIL AR15s <--link

I fisked that one, too.

Damn these people make me tired.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:19:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By KBaker:

Originally Posted By Buzz407:
Weapons that can shatter concrete

Semiautomatic assault rifles have returned, and cops who face them know all too well what they can do

By PATRICE O'SHAUGHNESSY DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Another Worthy Cause

EVIL EVIL AR15s <--link

I fisked that one, too.

Damn these people make me tired.


and again, good job.
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:31:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By illigb:
Really...

50 sniper rifles were bought in the USA and shipped to Afganistan to shoot down helicopters. 50 caliber rifles, no less...




No Really. See, all those Stingers, SA-7'S, SA-14'S, 14.5MM, ZPU'S, ZSU's, the 23mm's, the DsHK-46's, RPK's, RPD's, and RPG-7, 18, 22, and 16's aren't nearly as deadly as a Serbu .50. And I thought you knew about guns??????C'mon!!!!!!!!!11
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:34:24 PM EST
30-clip magazines?

WTF is that?

BigDozer66
Link Posted: 9/27/2004 5:47:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By KBaker:
I fisked that one, too.

Damn these people make me tired.



Thanks for your efforts, KBaker, another good read. I saved The Smallest Minority to my favorites menu.



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