Is it wrong to think we need to be more like Russia?





http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d3_1312921330

 

Pretty cowardly to just blow them up. Should have sunk their ship and given them a chance to swim back to land.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d3_1312921330

Thats how it should be done!

Cowardly? Is in honorable to hijaack an unarmed ship? I guess those pirates do give their hostages a chance to have their ransoms paid before blowing off their heads....



Justice served!





BTW: thanks for fixing my hyperlink Coldair!

He was making a joke. They would have died from sharks/exhaustion and drowning/exposure before they made it to shore.



ETA: Great video by the way. Thanks for sharing.



 

I don't see anything in the video that shows they killed the pirates.  Just looks like they arrested them all and then sank their boat.



But I don't speak Russian.

I have to give kudos to Russia, the don't f around with pirates, terroists or hostage takers......

Reading is fundamental.

BTW, a waste of perfectly good handcuffs.

The description says the pirates were handcuffed on the ship when it went.

On the one hand, I doubt it.

On the other... they're Russian.

Russia isn't exactly hamstrung by political correctness.

thats a old video. I beleive when it happened the Russians said they let them go in a life raft with some sort of tracking device. Then the tracking device stopped working and the pirates were not heard from again... sounds like they all drowned in a terrible boating accident.

you gotta understand something.....these people are pirates. this isn't Captain Jack Sparrow they are dealing with here. these people regularly murder people on the high seas. if anything what the russians did was merciful. swim for shore? you realize this scum was caught in international waters more than 12 miles from any land mass right? i'd rather get blown up than face the sharks.

the russians weren't playin. those were 45 round RPK-74 magss in their AK-74s and it looked like one of them had lit up the Arab scum that was laying on deck.

looks like another person needs to check their sarcasm meter.

Looks like the guy in the yellow shirt got the buckwheats.

and thats because you didn't know what you were looking at.

1. thats way too many guys on a boat that size to be fishing.

2. they had 6-8 AKs extra mags a couple of pistols and what looked like a case of 7.62x39 ammo.

3. at 3:36 you can clearly see they had 2 boarding ladders. a boarding ladder is a simple light ladder with one end having large hooks on it. you slip the hooks over a ships rail and bingo you're boarding.

The end of Russian boats being attacked.

What do you think the chances are of those same pirates doing this again are?

I haven’t given a pirate update in a while so here we go.
First, that video is old.  Russia and India have been kicking the shit out of pirates while the US and other "nicer" countries disarm them and release them to attack another day.  I have videos and photos I may post one day but I need to check some things out first.

The pirates are now using more hi tech weapons.  They are buying the best stuff on the market since they are fat with money.  They upgraded from the RPG-7 to the RPG-29, not sure who they are buying from.
They are also buying heavy caliber rifles.  They didn’t used to be able to penetrate most ship hulls, especially double hull tankers but now they can.  Last month they attacked a super tanker and penetrated the hull setting the ship on fire and forcing the crew to abandon her.

It is so bad out there the UK government released a notice to all British flagged ships saying they do not condone the use of armed private security but they also would not deny their use.

I want to be careful with releasing numbers but I will say during one recent engagement where pirates attacked a ship, private security killed between 10-20 pirates thwarting the attack.
During another recent attack 25, yes I said 25 pirate skiffs attacked a large ship with a valuable cargo.  Private security thwarted that attack also.  Number of pirates killed during that attack is unknown.

Most companies are hiring private security from other countries besides the US due to cost and the worry of having to deal with the US govt.

The problem is getting worse, not better.

Unless they have the curse of Aztec gold, not likely



 

Hey!  Those pirates had families and friends who will miss them; children who may never know their fathers.  They didn't get a fair trial.  Where were their lawyers?  Awe fuck, this is just stupid.  Good shoot.

Thank you for your insight.

For every attack that is stopped, how many are successful? Is that a figure that you can share-even if you can't use specific numbers?

If the problem is getting worse that tells me that there is still a strong incentive to carry out these attacks (obviously). Are ships flying certain flags more likely to be hit, since the pirates know that some governments are more passive than others?

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No.

Let's not give the Skinnies another chance to do their pirate thing.

High time for the Arfcom cruise to Africa!

I dont know how that deemed them pirates.

The amount of weapons on that boat seemed decently normal to me for a day fishing.

From the article:
Perhaps from now on, Russian ships will not be targets for Somalian pirates.Other nations might take note.

People who dont sail and arent used to the size of the ocean dont understand why the pirates arent caught.  A good way to think about it is to imagine 5 police cars trying to patroll the whole state of Texas.

Some information can be found here, but keep in mind it is a little biased because its a joint govt site.  http://www.eunavfor.eu/

Pirate video

The pirates are more aggresive to the captured crews.  They are resorting to torture in an effort to speed up ransom payments.  Types of torture include keelhauling, zip ties around genitals, using the ship's crane to hang crew members upside down in the water, dousing crew members with water then locking them in the ship's freezer and last but not least good old fashion beatings.

Reminds me of the time the russians recaptured a hijacked vessel, put the pirates back on their skiff, then reported that it "mysteriously disappeared."

When this shit started getting popping off, I kept BSing about how I was gonna start a sweet anti-piracy private security company.













 

Wonderful, private contractor jobs outsourced, and America looks like a pussy for piracy.

I don't put much faith in the descriptions posted under LiveLeak videos.  Many of them are speculation or outright misrepresentations.  Is there any proof that the description is accurate?



 

I think you completely misunderstood my post.  I understand it's a pirate vessel.  That's obvious.