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Posted: 9/28/2004 10:48:37 AM EST
www.gems-afghan.com/

I heard this guy interviewed on the radio recently. He's a gem dealer who works with the Afghanistan government and says the US has the bastard and is holding off announcing it until the election gets closer. If it's true, do you think it's good politics or showmanship?
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:49:32 AM EST
I wouldnt doubt it, but its good news for us
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:49:56 AM EST
People claim lots of things.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:50:21 AM EST
That would be some good news.


political games get so tiring though.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:51:00 AM EST
Why would they arrest a dead man?
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:51:14 AM EST
I spoke with a guy last week who swears Elvis rents a townhouse from his father-in-law.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:52:22 AM EST
That's the leftist nut conspiracy theory that has been going around for the last year.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:52:33 AM EST
They found Jimmy Hoffa once but then they lost him again. Amelia Earhart too.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:52:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By gaspasser:
www.gems-afghan.com/

I heard this guy interviewed on the radio recently. He's a gem dealer who works with the Afghanistan government and says the US has the bastard and is holding off announcing it until the election gets closer. If it's true, do you think it's good politics or showmanship?



I don't buy it. DU has been talking about this tinfoil hat conspiracy for months now. Of course if I'm wrong, it's not like I'll be upset that we've got the bastard in custody.

As far as politics or showmanship, I'd say good politics. What's the harm in delaying the announcement that we have OBL in custody? If anything it could play to our advantage fighting other terrorists such as Zarqoui (sp?).
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:54:41 AM EST
Yup, he lives down the street. He must get released during the day to work because I've seen him at the corner convenience store. He always jokes about how he never met anyone taller than him. I've got at least an inch in height on him. Nice guy except for the whole terrorist thing he's into.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:55:44 AM EST

Originally Posted By raven:
Why would they arrest a dead man?



Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:55:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By NevadaARshooter:
That's the leftist nut conspiracy theory that has been going around for the last year.



Longer than that!

Every time a bad guy gets picked up by the US (like ol' "Spidey Hole" Hussein) or killed they make it sound like the US had them in custody and trotted them out in front of the cameras for Bush's political gain.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:55:56 AM EST

Originally Posted By gaspasser:
If it's true, do you think it's good politics or showmanship?



And exactly how many people does it take to pull off a conspiracy like this?

Bare minimum 50.

Guards, Captors & up and down the chain of command. Now add in all their very best friends and wives & buddies and you expect everyone to keep their piehole shut?

The only way something can stay a secret if mroe than one person knows it is if the other person is dead.

Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:56:27 AM EST
Im setting here punching the shit out of him right now...
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:56:39 AM EST

I hope so. Who cares if GW uses it for an election day boost? Bin Laden was still caught during his first term, just earlier than we all thought.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:57:33 AM EST
If tey say it and they "happen" to "find" Bin Laden during the election they can turn it into a big conspiracy... if he doesn't turn up between now and 02 Nov then nothing will happen. Nobody will go after the people spreading this rumors and punish them for it. It's just disappear.

Odds are, even if they did have him in custody, this rumor has been floating around long enough that it would be stupid to go through with the "look who we found just in time for election" plan. If they had any sense, they;d simply kill his ass and show the world his head separated from his body. If he had an control over terrorist cells we'd have picked it up through the various forms of traffic that our intel community monitors. But he obviously doesn't and therfore serves no purpose to us alive.

They should have done the same thing to Saddam, but the media pretty well ruined any chances of that...
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 10:58:23 AM EST
I also heard that they have ABU MUSA AL Zarkawi (2nd highest Al Queda Shit-head) in custody in Iran and are negotiating a trade for some Irani ambassadour captured in Iraq.

Who knows???? Wish it were true
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:02:54 AM EST
Of all the conspiracy theories I've heard, the only one that seems slightly plausible is that Jim Morrison is still alive.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:04:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By Robertesq1:
I also heard that they have ABU MUSA AL Zarkawi (2nd highest Al Queda Shit-head) in custody in Iran and are negotiating a trade for some Irani ambassadour captured in Iraq.

Who knows???? Wish it were true



Somehow I seriously doubt if they had him they would trade him for all the oil in the Middle East.

Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:08:43 AM EST
HOUSE ARREST? His ass would be in Gitmo and he's be in solitary. I doubt he'd get house arrest. As a matter of fact I sort of doubt he'll survive the "capture". If he isn't allready goo in the bottom of a cave.


How ironic that 10,000 years from now someone'll find some oil made out of all those dead squashed talibaners in caves....
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:08:49 AM EST
Though it would be good news if UBL were dead or in custody... I doubt that he could be held "secretly"... just think about it. Surely some trooper somewhere would spill the beans... heck, the news might break here on this site with photos being posted! Now, perhaps he's dead and his DNA has been confirmed, and the lab has it underwraps till next month....
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:12:20 AM EST

Originally Posted By nightstalker:
They found Jimmy Hoffa once but then they lost him again. Amelia Earhart too.



Judge Crater's around here someplace, too. Now where did I put him?.....
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:14:54 AM EST

Originally Posted By innocent_bystander:
Yup, he lives down the street. He must get released during the day to work because I've seen him at the corner convenience store. He always jokes about how he never met anyone taller than him. I've got at least an inch in height on him. Nice guy except for the whole terrorist thing he's into.



You crazy, Martin Lawrence!

Everybody knows he's lost his memory and is in a nursing home in NJ, stuck between a guy who thinks he's Elvis, and another who's black, but thinks he's JFK.......
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:15:13 AM EST
They can't have Benladen because I saw that asshole working in a convience store west of Sugarland ,Texas. Overcharged me on a Dr. Pepper. on Sunday afternoon.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:22:10 AM EST
No, he's at Detroit Metro Airport, I saw him driving a cab.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:26:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By TexasRooter:
They can't have Benladen because I saw that asshole working in a convience store west of Sugarland ,Texas. Overcharged me on a Dr. Pepper. on Sunday afternoon.



"Come again!"

Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:27:44 AM EST
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:42:08 AM EST
Right! And an airplane did not hit the Pentagon...hy.gif
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:45:42 AM EST
No Way!

I bought a 6-pack from him last week at a quicky mart in Clevevland.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:47:14 AM EST
Didn't Mark Twain say that "two can keep a secret, if one of them is dead" ?
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:51:04 AM EST
I have thought for a long time about this. What would happen if we caught Bin Laden and announced it to the world? Most Americans would think that the global war on terrorism was over. They would call for our troops to come home. The democraps would scream and holler. I think that if we did catch him and we have had him all this time, why not use it as an ace in the hole for relection? What would be so wrong about that? We are still fighting terrorism. As long as the world thinks Bin Laden is free, then we can continue to kill those terrorists bastards.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 12:05:34 PM EST

Originally Posted By jblachly:
Didn't Mark Twain say that "two can keep a secret, if one of them is dead" ?



It was on a plaque on Carlos Marcello's office door.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 1:41:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By gaspasser:
www.gems-afghan.com/

I heard this guy interviewed on the radio recently. He's a gem dealer who works with the Afghanistan government and says the US has the bastard and is holding off announcing it until the election gets closer. If it's true, do you think it's good politics or showmanship?



It's true, I heard it on CBS

Bomber
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 2:15:07 PM EST
They're going to hold off on announcing his capture until AFTER he formally endorses Kerry.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 2:15:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/28/2004 2:16:38 PM EST by booshmaster]

Originally Posted By NYPatriot:
People claim lots of things. hinking.gif



Ditto. I bet the Kerry campaign "donated" some cash to this guy too
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 2:17:28 PM EST
Impossible, because it would be 'cave arrest' not house arrest.
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 2:23:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By gaspasser:
www.gems-afghan.com/

I heard this guy interviewed on the radio recently. He's a gem dealer who works with the Afghanistan government and says the US has the bastard and is holding off announcing it until the election gets closer. If it's true, do you think it's good politics or showmanship?


i think that the fact that people actually believe crap like that and own guns is scary.....
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 2:38:19 PM EST

And exactly how many people does it take to pull off a conspiracy like this?

Bare minimum 50.

Guards, Captors & up and down the chain of command. Now add in all their very best friends and wives & buddies and you expect everyone to keep their piehole shut?

The only way something can stay a secret if mroe than one person knows it is if the other person is dead.



CavVet is 100% right.

Have you ever tried to pull off a good conspiracy?
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 3:10:50 PM EST
we should dispose him quietly. no one to martyr or save from the americans.


meat
Link Posted: 9/28/2004 11:52:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/28/2004 11:53:02 PM EST by CavVet]

Originally Posted By _Ugly_:
They're going to hold off on announcing his capture until AFTER he formally endorses Kerry.





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