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Posted: 8/14/2011 4:25:23 AM EDT
One crazy Kook, sure, but paint all the frontrunners as crazy, and you end up endorsing them by nature of, "If the Dem's hate em that bad, they gotta be good. Let's see how demonizing Perry from the very first day, will play out.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:26:46 AM EDT
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Well, we have DU members with troll accounts trying to do it here already because they're scared shitless, and we have regular members jumping on the band wagon.

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Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:34:31 AM EDT
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It'll probably work, republicans eat their more conservative candidates for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the media is more then happy in helping it along.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:34:40 AM EDT
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Yes, it will backfire.  Sarah was and is a rookie.  Rick is a pro.  He's called Slick Rick for a reason.

He's slick in the same way Bill Clinton is slick.  I wish he was slick in the way Reagan was, but that's asking too much of almost any man.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:35:12 AM EDT
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No, it will not backfire.  That tactic has worked for democrats for decades.  Nothing has happened to change that.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:36:01 AM EDT
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It'll probably work, republicans eat their more conservative candidates for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the media is more then happy in helping it along.


MFW people call Rick Perry conservative:



Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:38:10 AM EDT
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"Unelectable" is a word liberals use to keep true conservatives out of the race.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:40:15 AM EDT
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The Progressives know nothing but " Character Assassination", they are going to spend more money than they ever did for the 2012 election cycle. I believe Perry will prevail.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 4:40:58 AM EDT
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You can only paint one or two as crazy and get away with it. Do it to too many, and it's like calling the Tea Party terrorists. People are gonna see through that at some point...
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 5:48:53 AM EDT
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It'll probably work, republicans eat their more conservative candidates for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the media is more then happy in helping it along.


MFW people call Rick Perry conservative:

http://arch.413chan.net/mfw-%28n1295037141083%29.jpg



Not really talking about him, talking about ANY candidate that has conservative leanings.

OTOH, Obama could walk out on stage eating white baby jerky and the media would gush on how all inclusive he is and that anyone that doesn't like white baby jerky is racist against a black man that does.

And then we wonder why we end up with such turd RINOs like McCain and Romney as our candidates.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:44:09 AM EDT
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No, it will not backfire.  That tactic has worked for democrats for decades.  Nothing has happened to change that.


I am afraid that this post nails it.   Im sick and tired of American politics.   There are way to many over educated idiots in the liberal colleges and universities.   Maybe when there are no more grants and student loans available and they have to work for their "education" the pendulum will begin to swing the other way.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:45:56 AM EDT
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Heck, the Paulbots do it more than the Libs do.  
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:48:55 AM EDT
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No. They are trying to paint Rick Perry as an "idiot" due to his "C" average performance in college.

However, he has the experience as Governor and Record of Accomplishment that Palin never had plus he is a sharp man who can deal with the liberal media.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:51:00 AM EDT
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No, it will not backfire.  That tactic has worked for democrats for decades.  Nothing has happened to change that.


This. the dems have it down to a science. The Republicans are hindered by their own "decency" and not willing to "stoop to that level". Meanwhile they hand the club to the dems to beat them over the head.



 
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:53:18 AM EDT
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Yes, it will backfire.  Sarah was and is a rookie.  Rick is a pro.  He's called Slick Rick for a reason.



He's slick in the same way Bill Clinton is slick.  I wish he was slick in the way Reagan was, but that's asking too much of almost any man.





Reagan wasn't slick.  He was smooth.



 
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:53:27 AM EDT
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Heck, the Paulbots do it more than the Libs do.  


This  

I've seen them refusing to vote at all if their nutjob shockingly doesnt win the nomination.
Dooming us to socialism = the best way to get us out of a socialism slide
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:53:38 AM EDT
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Not sure I agree with your premise that they "killed" Sarah Palin.  She's as popular with the populists as she ever was, and she has just as much of a realistic shot to grab the GOP nomination as Perry or Bachman.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:54:41 AM EDT
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Just like Palin, the media "pile on" will be tremendous. SNL, Maher and the others are sitting around right now with their people, writing up material that will fly just below the edge of what is allowed.

Like with Palin, It will not stop and extend into their families just as Todd Palin was depicted as an incestuous pedophile and Sarah's daughters were destroyed on late night TV a few times. What has her family ever done to receive death threats?


But don't ever say anything bad about the Obama princesses. Don't even mention their names.

This is what we'll be dealing with.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:54:49 AM EDT
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I don't know how that's going to play out.

The Democrats and the left wing media have the best propaganda machine in the world.

If they can start pushing the right buttons on the 75-95 IQ people and if they can get those people to the voting booth (or keep them away) we could have a problem.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:55:48 AM EDT
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No, it will not backfire.  That tactic has worked for democrats for decades.  Nothing has happened to change that.


horse shit,they are done
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:56:49 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/14/2011 8:57:14 AM EDT
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Well, we have DU members with troll accounts trying to do it here already because they're scared shitless, and we have regular members jumping on the band wagon.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


Ah yes... the ole "if'n they don;t agree with ME, they must be DU trolls!" argument.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:00:26 AM EDT
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Palin has herself to blame, sorry
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:00:48 AM EDT
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Not sure I agree with your premise that they "killed" Sarah Palin.  She's as popular with the populists as she ever was, and she has just as much of a realistic shot to grab the GOP nomination as Perry or Bachman.


here,here
sit back and watch around the end of the summer holiday.
this thing is far from being set in stone.


Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:01:46 AM EDT
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It will work for a while, but thinking people will notice that they are fed the same thing all the time. Especially when fed a steady diet of "these people are kooks" and then they see a normal sounding and normal looking person in a debate who says things with which the viewer agrees..
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:05:20 AM EDT
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Character assassination is one method whereby the media will discredit an otherwise viable candidate.  The other is to ignore them and deny them any coverage and exposure to the public.  That's why it's not good to rely exclusively on the mainstream media for your information.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:08:24 AM EDT
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No, it will not backfire.  That tactic has worked for democrats for decades.  Nothing has happened to change that.


Yes, something has changed.  Instead of moving to the center as all successful democrats have done before the election, Obama moved even further to the left.  He can't run on his record, he can't run on his policies, and he can't run on his future plans.  He's lost the middle, he never had the right, and he's even managed to lose some democrats.  I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more serious democrat challengers for the dem nomination.  Right now I think Hillary would be much harder to beat than Obama.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:11:30 AM EDT
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Perry can win this.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:12:58 AM EDT
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Heck, the Paulbots do it more than the Libs do.  


QFT

 
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:15:10 AM EDT
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Well, we have DU members with troll accounts trying to do it here already because they're scared shitless, and we have regular members jumping on the band wagon.

Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile


An example of one is "AKSU". He'll be along shortly, I'm sure.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:20:35 AM EDT
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Palin has done a good job of giving the media the middle finger as of late. They are pathological in their fixation on her, and she's playing them well. She learned from her earlier screw ups.



Any GOP candidate that tries to make nice and be loved by the media is sowing his own demise. Let McCain be the example to all.



The media are tools to be vilified and their hypocrisy must be pointed out continuously.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:32:31 AM EDT
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Not really a fan of Slick Rick.  Strikes me as a used car salesman.  On the other hand, we have the idiot professor who can't operate in the real world.  I'm supposed to pick one?

I will say this much: there is one and only one reason Obama remains a viable candidate.  He's black.  That's it.  Any white man would be hiding in a closet right now waiting out his remaining term like the lame duck he would be.  I am sick of listening to people state Obama's critics are racists when racism is in fact the only reason the man is and could continue to be President.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 9:36:37 AM EDT
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Rick Perry is about the best politician I have seen
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:10:40 AM EDT
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Rick Perry is about the best politician I have seen


In my opinion that's Allen West
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:22:49 AM EDT
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The SNL skits will portray Perry as W2.0......it has already started and will continue until most people think Perry = Bush.    Just like most people think Palin said she could see Russia from her house.





Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:26:26 AM EDT
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According to liberals, anyone who believes in balanced budgets and fiscal discipline is crazy.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:29:25 AM EDT
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Rick Perry is about the best politician I have seen


In my opinion that's Allen West


West seems like a great man, but he really has very little experience in government. Less than 8 months' worth, actually. God damned Obama has more experience than West. look what inexperience got usthis time around. Let guys like West and Rubio get some good experience for a few years first.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:32:34 AM EDT
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Palin has herself to blame, sorry


Nope.

Her parents weren't able to equip her with enough gray matter for this sort of thing.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:33:45 AM EDT
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Perry can win this.


Yup.

The whole fucking thing.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:34:31 AM EDT
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"Unelectable" is a word liberals use to keep true conservatives out of the race.


Exactly. I don't think it's gonna work this time, though. Which is why they are so desperate already.



 
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:35:47 AM EDT
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The SNL skits will portray Perry as W2.0......it has already started and will continue until most people think Perry = Bush.    Just like most people think Palin said she could see Russia from her house.




One of the reasons I think he should have held off announcement more towards the end of the year, less time to let stuff like that simmer. But I'm not paid to make those decisions

Also campaign exhaustion. A year and half to listen to campaigning from both sides and the media squawking is a LOT
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:36:19 AM EDT
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I'm not the largest Rick Perry fan, but he's no Sarah Palin either. The media was all over her, but in some ways they handed her a shovel and she kept digging with it. I don't think Perry will do that and I say that having lived in TX during his entire terms as govenor until just recenently.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:40:06 AM EDT
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Well, we have DU members with troll accounts trying to do it here already because they're scared shitless, and we have regular members jumping on the band wagon.



Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile




Ah yes... the ole "if'n they don;t agree with ME, they must be DU trolls!" argument.


Nailed it. Too bad it doesn't fit into the Arf superstition about first post.



 
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:41:44 AM EDT
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The RINO establishment did their share of sniping against Sarah. She scares them because she is an "outsider" and threatens RINO control of the Republican Party. RINOs also sniped against Reagan when he was in office.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:50:45 AM EDT
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Yes, it will backfire. Sarah was and is a rookie. Rick is a pro. He's called Slick Rick for a reason.



He's slick in the same way Bill Clinton is slick. I wish he was slick in the way Reagan was, but that's asking too much of almost any man.





Reagan wasn't slick. He was smooth.



Fuckin' A.  Smooth and he BELIEVED in the idea of America.  Damn, but I miss that man.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:56:44 AM EDT
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I don't think it's going to work, unless there is a Katie Couric interview moment.  I don't think they've learned their lesson (Bosnian sniper fire) but it's just not as easy to smear someone anymore.  
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:59:14 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:59:19 AM EDT
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What else do they have?

That's it, they certainly don't have ideas.  They must think it looks bad for them as they have already whipped out the race card.
Link Posted: 8/14/2011 10:59:34 AM EDT
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No, it will not backfire.  That tactic has worked for democrats for decades.  Nothing has happened to change that.


I am afraid that this post nails it.   Im sick and tired of American politics.   There are way to many over educated idiots in the liberal colleges and universities.   Maybe when there are no more grants and student loans available and they have to work for their "education" the pendulum will begin to swing the other way.



This plus the RNC doesn't have the balls to fight back often enough.

Link Posted: 8/14/2011 11:13:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/14/2011 11:18:33 AM EDT
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Appologies if you think I am speaking out of turn.  This is purely my view as a non-American, and is only my perception of the situaltion you guys face..


Thanks for weighing in.

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