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Posted: 8/14/2011 4:25:23 AM EDT
One crazy Kook, sure, but paint all the frontrunners as crazy, and you end up endorsing them by nature of, "If the Dem's hate em that bad, they gotta be good. Let's see how demonizing Perry from the very first day, will play out.
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Well, we have DU members with troll accounts trying to do it here already because they're scared shitless, and we have regular members jumping on the band wagon.
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It'll probably work, republicans eat their more conservative candidates for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the media is more then happy in helping it along.
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Yes, it will backfire. Sarah was and is a rookie. Rick is a pro. He's called Slick Rick for a reason.
He's slick in the same way Bill Clinton is slick. I wish he was slick in the way Reagan was, but that's asking too much of almost any man. |
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No, it will not backfire. That tactic has worked for democrats for decades. Nothing has happened to change that.
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"Unelectable" is a word liberals use to keep true conservatives out of the race.
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The Progressives know nothing but " Character Assassination", they are going to spend more money than they ever did for the 2012 election cycle. I believe Perry will prevail.
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You can only paint one or two as crazy and get away with it. Do it to too many, and it's like calling the Tea Party terrorists. People are gonna see through that at some point...
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It'll probably work, republicans eat their more conservative candidates for breakfast, lunch and dinner and the media is more then happy in helping it along. MFW people call Rick Perry conservative: http://arch.413chan.net/mfw-%28n1295037141083%29.jpg Not really talking about him, talking about ANY candidate that has conservative leanings. OTOH, Obama could walk out on stage eating white baby jerky and the media would gush on how all inclusive he is and that anyone that doesn't like white baby jerky is racist against a black man that does. And then we wonder why we end up with such turd RINOs like McCain and Romney as our candidates. |
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No, it will not backfire. That tactic has worked for democrats for decades. Nothing has happened to change that. I am afraid that this post nails it. Im sick and tired of American politics. There are way to many over educated idiots in the liberal colleges and universities. Maybe when there are no more grants and student loans available and they have to work for their "education" the pendulum will begin to swing the other way. |
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No. They are trying to paint Rick Perry as an "idiot" due to his "C" average performance in college.
However, he has the experience as Governor and Record of Accomplishment that Palin never had plus he is a sharp man who can deal with the liberal media. |
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Quoted: No, it will not backfire. That tactic has worked for democrats for decades. Nothing has happened to change that. This. the dems have it down to a science. The Republicans are hindered by their own "decency" and not willing to "stoop to that level". Meanwhile they hand the club to the dems to beat them over the head. |
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Quoted: Yes, it will backfire. Sarah was and is a rookie. Rick is a pro. He's called Slick Rick for a reason. He's slick in the same way Bill Clinton is slick. I wish he was slick in the way Reagan was, but that's asking too much of almost any man. Reagan wasn't slick. He was smooth. |
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Heck, the Paulbots do it more than the Libs do. This I've seen them refusing to vote at all if their nutjob shockingly doesnt win the nomination. Dooming us to socialism = the best way to get us out of a socialism slide |
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Not sure I agree with your premise that they "killed" Sarah Palin. She's as popular with the populists as she ever was, and she has just as much of a realistic shot to grab the GOP nomination as Perry or Bachman.
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Just like Palin, the media "pile on" will be tremendous. SNL, Maher and the others are sitting around right now with their people, writing up material that will fly just below the edge of what is allowed.
Like with Palin, It will not stop and extend into their families just as Todd Palin was depicted as an incestuous pedophile and Sarah's daughters were destroyed on late night TV a few times. What has her family ever done to receive death threats? But don't ever say anything bad about the Obama princesses. Don't even mention their names. This is what we'll be dealing with. |
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I don't know how that's going to play out.
The Democrats and the left wing media have the best propaganda machine in the world. If they can start pushing the right buttons on the 75-95 IQ people and if they can get those people to the voting booth (or keep them away) we could have a problem. |
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No, it will not backfire. That tactic has worked for democrats for decades. Nothing has happened to change that. horse shit,they are done |
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Quoted: More people with cemented profreedom values need to go to college. It is really too bad that conservatives think that they should never be exposed to leftist ideas, so they quit or never go.Quoted: No, it will not backfire. That tactic has worked for democrats for decades. Nothing has happened to change that. I am afraid that this post nails it. Im sick and tired of American politics. There are way to many over educated idiots in the liberal colleges and universities. Maybe when there are no more grants and student loans available and they have to work for their "education" the pendulum will begin to swing the other way. |
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Well, we have DU members with troll accounts trying to do it here already because they're scared shitless, and we have regular members jumping on the band wagon. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ah yes... the ole "if'n they don;t agree with ME, they must be DU trolls!" argument. |
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Not sure I agree with your premise that they "killed" Sarah Palin. She's as popular with the populists as she ever was, and she has just as much of a realistic shot to grab the GOP nomination as Perry or Bachman. here,here sit back and watch around the end of the summer holiday. this thing is far from being set in stone. |
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It will work for a while, but thinking people will notice that they are fed the same thing all the time. Especially when fed a steady diet of "these people are kooks" and then they see a normal sounding and normal looking person in a debate who says things with which the viewer agrees..
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Character assassination is one method whereby the media will discredit an otherwise viable candidate. The other is to ignore them and deny them any coverage and exposure to the public. That's why it's not good to rely exclusively on the mainstream media for your information.
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No, it will not backfire. That tactic has worked for democrats for decades. Nothing has happened to change that. Yes, something has changed. Instead of moving to the center as all successful democrats have done before the election, Obama moved even further to the left. He can't run on his record, he can't run on his policies, and he can't run on his future plans. He's lost the middle, he never had the right, and he's even managed to lose some democrats. I wouldn't be surprised to see one or more serious democrat challengers for the dem nomination. Right now I think Hillary would be much harder to beat than Obama. |
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Well, we have DU members with troll accounts trying to do it here already because they're scared shitless, and we have regular members jumping on the band wagon. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile An example of one is "AKSU". He'll be along shortly, I'm sure. |
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Palin has done a good job of giving the media the middle finger as of late. They are pathological in their fixation on her, and she's playing them well. She learned from her earlier screw ups.
Any GOP candidate that tries to make nice and be loved by the media is sowing his own demise. Let McCain be the example to all. The media are tools to be vilified and their hypocrisy must be pointed out continuously. |
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Not really a fan of Slick Rick. Strikes me as a used car salesman. On the other hand, we have the idiot professor who can't operate in the real world. I'm supposed to pick one?
I will say this much: there is one and only one reason Obama remains a viable candidate. He's black. That's it. Any white man would be hiding in a closet right now waiting out his remaining term like the lame duck he would be. I am sick of listening to people state Obama's critics are racists when racism is in fact the only reason the man is and could continue to be President. |
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Rick Perry is about the best politician I have seen In my opinion that's Allen West |
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The SNL skits will portray Perry as W2.0......it has already started and will continue until most people think Perry = Bush. Just like most people think Palin said she could see Russia from her house.
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According to liberals, anyone who believes in balanced budgets and fiscal discipline is crazy.
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Rick Perry is about the best politician I have seen In my opinion that's Allen West West seems like a great man, but he really has very little experience in government. Less than 8 months' worth, actually. God damned Obama has more experience than West. look what inexperience got usthis time around. Let guys like West and Rubio get some good experience for a few years first. |
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Palin has herself to blame, sorry Nope. Her parents weren't able to equip her with enough gray matter for this sort of thing. |
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Quoted: "Unelectable" is a word liberals use to keep true conservatives out of the race. Exactly. I don't think it's gonna work this time, though. Which is why they are so desperate already. |
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The SNL skits will portray Perry as W2.0......it has already started and will continue until most people think Perry = Bush. Just like most people think Palin said she could see Russia from her house. One of the reasons I think he should have held off announcement more towards the end of the year, less time to let stuff like that simmer. But I'm not paid to make those decisions Also campaign exhaustion. A year and half to listen to campaigning from both sides and the media squawking is a LOT |
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I'm not the largest Rick Perry fan, but he's no Sarah Palin either. The media was all over her, but in some ways they handed her a shovel and she kept digging with it. I don't think Perry will do that and I say that having lived in TX during his entire terms as govenor until just recenently.
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Quoted: Quoted: Well, we have DU members with troll accounts trying to do it here already because they're scared shitless, and we have regular members jumping on the band wagon. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ah yes... the ole "if'n they don;t agree with ME, they must be DU trolls!" argument. Nailed it. Too bad it doesn't fit into the Arf superstition about first post. |
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The RINO establishment did their share of sniping against Sarah. She scares them because she is an "outsider" and threatens RINO control of the Republican Party. RINOs also sniped against Reagan when he was in office.
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Quoted: Quoted: Yes, it will backfire. Sarah was and is a rookie. Rick is a pro. He's called Slick Rick for a reason. He's slick in the same way Bill Clinton is slick. I wish he was slick in the way Reagan was, but that's asking too much of almost any man. Reagan wasn't slick. He was smooth. Fuckin' A. Smooth and he BELIEVED in the idea of America. Damn, but I miss that man. |
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I don't think it's going to work, unless there is a Katie Couric interview moment. I don't think they've learned their lesson (Bosnian sniper fire) but it's just not as easy to smear someone anymore.
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What else do they have?
That's it, they certainly don't have ideas. They must think it looks bad for them as they have already whipped out the race card. |
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No, it will not backfire. That tactic has worked for democrats for decades. Nothing has happened to change that. I am afraid that this post nails it. Im sick and tired of American politics. There are way to many over educated idiots in the liberal colleges and universities. Maybe when there are no more grants and student loans available and they have to work for their "education" the pendulum will begin to swing the other way. This plus the RNC doesn't have the balls to fight back often enough. |
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They, the Dems and the media of the left, can do what they like........ the fact remains that from where I'm sat across the Atlantic looking in, Obama is a pariah.
He has the claim as the first Black President of the United States. Other than that he has presided an economic downturn of epic proportions, his policies have exacerbated and indeed prolonged that downturn and he remains as a President at War. He lacks any of the class and grace it takes to be the leader of one of the biggest economies on the globe (Not that Bush was particularly well liked abroad either, it would seem) Most of the policies and Bills laid before his Govt have failed to become law, the state of current welfare arrangements, and social healthcare proposals will forever be synonymous with the Obama administration, and the internationally obeserved floundering of the USA has been embarrasing and painful for me to watch as someone who has a great fondness for the US and it's people. Stepping away from my own "right wing gun owning conservative" values, and looking at things objectively, there has absolutely nothing Obama has achieved that would see him worthy of retaining his Presidency. So unless you are on the free welfare gravy train, or hold visions of Big Government watching over the people, then a vote for Obama is not the way to go. What will be intersting is just jow many people have been sucked into the Democrat Welfare Trap come election time and how many votes have been bought. The overwhelmingly sad fact in all of this as I see it, is that the Republicans still lack a leader. They lack that person with the solid dependable and focused approach to bring America back from the brink. At the moment the only candidates I see are dancing to the tune being played by the Democrats, and are constantly on the back foot, and incapable of countering the media spin onslought of the left. The natural result in all of this is that the quality of whoever you get as a leader will be crap. The election will be fought to the beat of the spin doctors and the quality of canidiates will depend purely on who manages to weather the media storm........ hardly a sound foundation for a solid Government. What America needs is someone who is not trying to kid themselves and the rest of the United States that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. It needs somone who is prepared tomake the cuts necessary, and take away from those who recieve most and contribute nothing. If they ain't rioting, you are doing it wrong. Appologies if you think I am speaking out of turn. This is purely my view as a non-American, and is only my perception of the situaltion you guys face.. |
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Appologies if you think I am speaking out of turn. This is purely my view as a non-American, and is only my perception of the situaltion you guys face.. Thanks for weighing in. |
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