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Posted: 3/17/2011 6:31:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:36:47 AM EST
Green is my favorite color
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:38:15 AM EST
Needs an update to make Wyoming green.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:38:22 AM EST
We're doomed! According to the libs, with that many shall-issue states, we will be drowning in all the blood flowing through the streets...

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Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:40:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Ventilator:
We're doomed! According to the libs, with that many shall-issue states, we will be drowning in all the blood flowing through the streets...

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good thing I packed a spare mag and a raft...
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:40:20 AM EST
Hah Oregon was a shall issue state before Texas.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:40:24 AM EST
I'd say most citizens don't even realize how widespread right to carry is.

Gun rights groups are getting something done weather people believe it or not.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:42:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 6:43:32 AM EST
Hope and change.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:05:14 AM EST
How did they update the 2011 map in April of 2010? seems a little pre-emptive
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:22:50 AM EST
Being red sucks.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:25:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2011 7:26:07 AM EST by Angelshare1]
Fuck the NRA, they drag their feet on CCW in state parks. They've done nothing for us except CCW in 48 states and Heller and McDonald.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:32:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By Steveoo44:
Being red sucks.


No shit. If Chicago would only fall into the lake we would be set.

Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:38:15 AM EST
Originally Posted By Angelshare1:
Fuck the NRA, they drag their feet on CCW in state parks. They've done nothing for us except CCW in 48 states and Heller and McDonald.


The NRA tried to fuck us on Mcdonald and Heller....then took credit for the 2nd Amendment Foundation's work.

That, and they had little to nothing to do with state CCW changes. They are only now coming around to people owning guns for anything besides hunting.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:39:33 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2011 7:41:31 AM EST by HUMONGO]
Originally Posted By Steveoo44:
Being red sucks.


Try being yellow when everyone assumes you have CCW so you're completely off the radar.

We need a color between red and yellow....orange maybe, for those states that have May Issue, but don't.

MD and Delaware are the same color, but it's a big fucking difference between the 2.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:41:13 AM EST
Feels good man.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:43:22 AM EST
Proud to be in a blue state. (never thought I'd say that)

But green would be better.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:47:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By Angelshare1:
Fuck the NRA, they drag their feet on CCW in state parks. They've done nothing for us except CCW in 48 states and Heller and McDonald.


you are crediting them some actions that they have not earned.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:50:45 AM EST
Red State. Blue before the end of the year.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:50:51 AM EST
Originally Posted By HUMONGO:
Originally Posted By Angelshare1:
Fuck the NRA, they drag their feet on CCW in state parks. They've done nothing for us except CCW in 48 states and Heller and McDonald.


The NRA tried to fuck us on Mcdonald and Heller....then took credit for the 2nd Amendment Foundation's work.

That, and they had little to nothing to do with state CCW changes. They are only now coming around to people owning guns for anything besides hunting.


That is not exactly true, I am familiar with their work in the mid to late 1990's as I was a volunteer with them. They did push CCW in some states, funded part of the MO CCW fight, but they wanted no part of Heller and only chimed in a me too with McDonald.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:53:09 AM EST
Why do they list AL as shall issue?

They were may issue when I lived there...

I believe they say "may issue" in order to keep black folks from carrying.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 7:56:21 AM EST
Look at us up in Maine and New Hampshire and Vermont, standing strong surrounded by yellow....

Here's to the real NorthEast!
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 8:00:44 AM EST
Wow. And NJ F-ing sucks.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 8:00:45 AM EST
Connecticut- surrounded by a sea of yellow and our new Democratic governor wants to turn us yellow/red as quick as possible
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 8:00:58 AM EST
Wow. And NJ F-ing sucks.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 9:28:57 AM EST
Originally Posted By jerrmy:
How did they update the 2011 map in April of 2010? seems a little pre-emptive


Laws don't go into affect the day they are passed. Something passed in 2010 may not take affect until January 1, 2011.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 9:57:53 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2011 10:33:45 AM EST by Merlin]
The Wyoming law doesn't take affect until July: NRA-ILA Note


Also, as stated above, Alabama is a "May Issue" state. Here's something in work to change that:

Alabama Open Carry page

Alabama Self Protection Act
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 10:43:45 AM EST
Originally Posted By ErickM:
Proud to be in a blue state. (never thought I'd say that)

But green would be better.


Yup.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 10:48:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By JakeThePimp:
Red State. Blue before the end of the year.

I wish they would just get this budget stuff over with and get on with CCW.
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 10:56:43 AM EST
thats the 1st time i have seen Illinois as a RED state

too bad it's on the wrong map.
coming from the Tribune is kinda suprising.
most of the media in Illinois is owned/bought/paid for.



Link Posted: 3/17/2011 11:30:14 AM EST
[Last Edit: 3/17/2011 11:30:42 AM EST by Ellery_Holt]

Originally Posted By RutgersHellfish:
Wow. And NJ F-ing sucks.




Originally Posted By RutgersHellfish:
Wow. And NJ F-ing sucks.


And so badly it needs to be said twice!





Link Posted: 3/17/2011 11:35:11 AM EST
AK and AZ have come a long way.

They went from no issue to UNRESTRICTED.

Major props to VT as well for being unrestricted the whole time. Any idea when that policy was instated...or has it ALWAYS been there?
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 11:36:48 AM EST
it is hard to understand but if you look back in the 1800s when some areas were still "territories" gun rights in some towns sucked.
The would ban guns when you came into town. And there was really no way to fight it , no NRA
The 2nd Amendment existed but today we seem to have at least in major cities more gun rights to carry

Link Posted: 3/17/2011 11:39:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By fiat_justicia:
Look at us up in Maine and New Hampshire and Vermont, standing strong surrounded by yellow....

Here's to the real NorthEast!


Aren't people in Vermont anti-gun liberals anyway?
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 11:45:59 AM EST
Ah, feels good to be blue. If we can just get into the green now we'll be doing good
Link Posted: 3/17/2011 11:49:06 AM EST
Originally Posted By HUMONGO:
Originally Posted By Steveoo44:
Being red sucks.


Try being yellow when everyone assumes you have CCW so you're completely off the radar.

We need a color between red and yellow....orange maybe, for those states that have May Issue, but don't.

MD and Delaware are the same color, but it's a big fucking difference between the 2.


Werd.

Delaware might as well be striped half blue. They just enacted reciprocity with Vriginia, and there's nothing in the law to prohibit a resident of DE from using a nonresident permit from a shall-issue state (in their case, FL and now VA being the most common with low application fees and reciprocity agreements).

The downside to that is, DE is going to stay exactly like they are for some time because the end-around is easy enough that there's no cause for much of a fight from the residents.


As for the SAF, they do great work (and I'm a supporter myself) but I still can't help feeling a bit let down when they gave up on us. I thought they had a solid case, though I'm not a lawyer.
I know there are bigger fish to fry before we get to MD's entrenched bureaucratic corruption, but still, I'd like to see this state turn around, by choice or by court ruling.
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