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I’ll bet the Chinese are going nuts. They've never had to deal with a savvy American in the White House.
Trump wasn't joking about China during his campaign. North Korea is simply an opportunity for Trump to blame NK for problems with China. And it's certainly not a coincidence that this NK situation is escalating after Trump's meeting with Xi. It's unfolding something like this: 1. Demonstrate you’ll bomb bad guys – complete 2. Hold friendly bland meetings with Chicoms - complete 3. Announce that Chicoms agreed to reign in NK, Chicoms agree to new future trade deals - complete 4. Send in armada, apply military threat/pressure to bad guys in NK (see #1) - complete 5. NK pushes back and blusters – in progress Next steps: 6. Assert that Chicoms are supporting NK, deserve political and trade sanctions 7. Implement sanctions against Chicoms... |
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Is this something that just happened in the last 24 hours? The last thing I heard is that President Trump had a productive meeting with the Chinese and is changing his mind about them being currency manipulators and are a lot more friendly than the Russians. What news do you have that contradicts this? In furtherance of this is the news that China just refused to accept a shipment of coal from North Korea (after the Trump meeting) as well as China abstaining from the UN vote to call out Bashar al Assad on the sarin gas attack and their lack of response to the US aircraft carrier entering the South China Sea in response to North Korea's last missile test.
![]() Firing some tomahawk missiles at a Syrian air base (killing no one and only damaging some aircraft) in no way would intimidate China, and I doubt that it had any intention to do so. Intention was to intimidate Assad/North Korea/Iran and various terrorist organizations including Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram/Abu Sayyaf/ as well as various others. Nor do I think that the Syrian attack intimated Russia in the least. |
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Last I heard too, we took over the coal contract that Best Korea lost.
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It makes zero economic sense for the US and China to go to war. Nobody on either side of that is going to be excited about absolutely cratering their economies.
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Is this something that just happened in the last 24 hours? The last thing I heard is that President Trump had a productive meeting with the Chinese and is changing his mind about them being currency manipulators and are a lot more friendly than the Russians. What news do you have that contradicts this? In furtherance of this is the news that China just refused to accept a shipment of coal from North Korea (after the Trump meeting) as well as China abstaining from the UN vote to call out Bashar al Assad on the sarin gas attack and their lack of response to the US aircraft carrier entering the South China Sea in response to North Korea's last missile test. ![]() Firing some tomahawk missiles at a Syrian air base (killing no one and only damaging some aircraft) in no way would intimidate China, and I doubt that it had any intention to do so. Intention was to intimidate Assad/North Korea/Iran and various terrorist organizations including Al Qaeda, ISIS, Boko Haram/Abu Sayyaf/ as well as various others. Nor do I think that the Syrian attack intimated Russia in the least. View Quote You're right, the Syrian missile strike certainly didn't intimidate Russia or China. But it intimidated NK (and Syria). |
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Here's a statement from China's Global Times, regarding "military action" by the USA.
The Chinese will not let something like that happen, especially on the same land where the Chinese Volunteer Army once fought in the early 1950s. It is a land covered with the blood of Chinese soldiers who bravely fought in the early 1950s. Furthermore, if Pyongyang were to be taken by the allied armies of the US and South Korea, it would dramatically change the geopolitical situation in the Korean Peninsula. http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1042957.shtml |
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Here's a statement from China's Global Times, regarding "military action" by the USA. The Chinese will not let something like that happen, especially on the same land where the Chinese Volunteer Army once fought in the early 1950s. It is a land covered with the blood of Chinese soldiers who bravely fought in the early 1950s. Furthermore, if Pyongyang were to be taken by the allied armies of the US and South Korea, it would dramatically change the geopolitical situation in the Korean Peninsula. http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1042957.shtml View Quote |
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Nothing "productive" came out of the meeting with Xi. No deals. |
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Definitely fake news. China is shitting themselves that we'll drop as a trade partner.
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China is using the delay tactic with the God Emperor. Xi makes the right noises at their first meeting, but Xi has no intention of enforcing U.N resolution 2270, and will continue to use the "Livelihood" provision, which allows the importation and exportation of goods to/from Best Korea. Unless we are heavily subsidizing the U.S. coal shipments to China, the Chinese State Owned Enterprises cannot afford to pay market prices for coal. Best Korea coal is low quality, very cheap, dirty, but gets the job done.
China is waiting for another world event to distract the U.S. from the Korea issue, then it will be business as usual. Both South Korea and China would like this issue to be kept status-quo. China believes in "Stability Above All". South Korea and China do not want a unified Korea, a unified Korea would drastically change South Korea's economy, and China does not want a U.S. ally on it's border. Best case would be for China to take care of Fat Boy, but they wont..... |
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Not one article in any of the Chinese newspapers about North Korea, only a back page article that talks about the THAAD system in South Korea, and how the system is a threat to the PRC.....
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It makes zero economic sense for the US and China to go to war. Nobody on either side of that is going to be excited about absolutely cratering their economies. View Quote I strongly suspect that there is are two factions in China, both powerful.The one that is all about economics, opened up China, started giving the people some freedoms, wants to be a solid World power... Then you have the Military who are the hardliners. |
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What deals? Enlighten us. View Quote ![]() (In case it went over your head, I'm asserting that you cannot know for a fact that no deal was made - and based on China's sudden change of heart in the field of international diplomacy, I think it's more likely than not that leverage has been applied in one form or another.) |
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