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Posted: 8/22/2017 1:53:41 PM EDT
EOTech EXPS review: The redemption of EOTech
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 1:57:57 PM EDT
[#1]
I'll keep my aimpoint.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:00:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Nope. I returned mine, too many good options on the market to bother giving them a second chance.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:02:10 PM EDT
[#3]
I'll stick with Aimpoint. THough I am getting a Vortex holo sight for one rifle over any eotech offerings.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:11:37 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm just here for the memes
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:15:38 PM EDT
[#5]
At least the guy has a resume to back up his thoughts.  Moreso on the survival front.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:17:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Mine still works fine 
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:17:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Aimpoint or bust
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:19:01 PM EDT
[#8]
MRO  FTMFW son
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:20:15 PM EDT
[#9]
I love mine
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:21:00 PM EDT
[#10]
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This
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:25:42 PM EDT
[#11]
It's your funeral pal.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:26:03 PM EDT
[#12]
They say the issues are fixed. Why should we believe L3? They lied to consumers and put soldiers and Marines lives at risk for profit. Fuck eotech!!
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:28:01 PM EDT
[#13]
I never returned my 553. It is my favorite sight I own.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:31:39 PM EDT
[#14]
I like his shirt. Anyone know who makes it?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:34:58 PM EDT
[#15]
who is this garand thumb guy.
his videos come up in my suggested videos all the time on youtube.


looks like he stumbled across the magpul dynamics videos about 5 years to late and is trying to be the new Travis Haley

Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:40:20 PM EDT
[#16]
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who is this garand thumb guy.
his videos come up in my suggested videos all the time on youtube.


looks like he stumbled across the magpul dynamics videos about 5 years to late and is trying to be the new Travis Haley

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He's Travis Haley's son.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:40:59 PM EDT
[#17]
I like Eotechs

Id own another
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:41:05 PM EDT
[#18]
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who is this garand thumb guy.
his videos come up in my suggested videos all the time on youtube.


looks like he stumbled across the magpul dynamics videos about 5 years to late and is trying to be the new Travis Haley

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Just a guy who is active military that actually uses his shit and does good reviews and actually has a good relationship with his "father" travis haley.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:43:15 PM EDT
[#19]
I had no idea about the parallax study. That's interesting... and somewhat disappointing

Garand Thumb is great, all of his videos are no BS and well thought out.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 2:59:58 PM EDT
[#20]
I never understood why it was such a problem.  Just flip up the BUIS and check the zero after changing locations.  I would be more concerned about other Eotech issues than that one.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:07:13 PM EDT
[#21]
1st and 2nd PNI !
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:11:44 PM EDT
[#22]
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They say the issues are fixed. Why should we believe L3? They lied to consumers and put soldiers and Marines lives at risk for profit. Fuck eotech!!
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What do you think about Aimpoint's lies? They claim their optics are parallax free, which isn't true. Watch the video above (or skip to 5:30), you'll hear that in testing the T1 has over 12 moa parallax at 25 yards and 9 moa at 100 yards-that's double the moa of the thermal drift of the eotech at 100 yards (but eotech admitted there was a problem and bought back faulty units.) The T2 has significantly less parallax than the T1 at 2.5-3moa... which suggests to me that Aimpoint knew of an issue and made changes in the T2 to minimize it as much as possible... without ever admitting a problem. Parallax on eotech was the least of all the optics tested, starting at 1.5 moa at 25 yards to even less at 50 and zero at 100.

And for the record I own a T1, M4 and an MRO. No Eotechs  (cashed mine in last year). If eotech really has reduced the thermal drift issue in the new units as mentioned in the video I wouldn't hesitate to own one again for the fact that its parallax is significantly less than other red dots.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:11:58 PM EDT
[#23]
L3 gave me MSRP, plus a generous shipping cost when I returned my EXPS. That was the last time I will fuck with them again.

I got the class action letter in the mail and threw it away.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:34:04 PM EDT
[#24]
Recently found him and Lucas at T.Rex Arms. They can shoot.

Dynamic Night Vision Shooting Drill
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:35:16 PM EDT
[#25]
Waiting for Aimpoint to make the Nano available...
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 3:54:44 PM EDT
[#26]
I never sent in my EXPS3-0 for the rebate check. Can I send it in to get the fixes described in the video?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:17:43 PM EDT
[#27]
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They say the issues are fixed. Why should we believe L3? They lied to consumers and put soldiers and Marines lives at risk for profit. Fuck eotech!!
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That's my issue as well.  Brave men went into combat with faulty optics
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:19:46 PM EDT
[#28]
I sent mine back still waiting on the funds
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:32:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Huh? That guys is actually Haley's son? I thought it was a joke.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:35:28 PM EDT
[#30]
I returned a XPS and EXPS. Now have 3  Aimpoint H1s and a T2. I like being able to leave the sights on but that's about the only thing I like better. Miss the shit out of that EOTech sight picture and reticle.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:37:30 PM EDT
[#31]
Is Vortex ever going to release the UH-1?
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:37:58 PM EDT
[#32]
No redemption, EVER!
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:47:36 PM EDT
[#33]
returned my EXPS2.0 got the refund. Bought an MRO, now have a couple more. I really like them, especially the battery life. 

But I do miss the EOTech reticle, and the large FOV. If the tech ever exist to have the battery life of an LED in an EOTech I would be all over it. 
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:47:46 PM EDT
[#34]
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Huh? That guys is actually Haley's son? I thought it was a joke.
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You thot wrong, it still is a joke.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:49:58 PM EDT
[#35]
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Huh? That guys is actually Haley's son? I thought it was a joke.
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It's a joke. Travis Jr probably isn't even a teenager yet.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 4:52:15 PM EDT
[#36]
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I like Eotechs

Id own another
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Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:00:57 PM EDT
[#37]
It's funny how people traded in their perfectly working eotechs, for an optic that has WORSE parallax, worse reticle and try to explain their reasoning with battery life.

All you basement dwellers never had an issue with their eotechs. You all just followed an Internet fad because it was the current and cool thing to do.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:10:35 PM EDT
[#38]
Two Eotechs I had were shit so I switched to Aimpoimts. If L3 finally has their shit together, I would like to have a EXP3 for my current block II build. I just hate the battery life on the Eotechs vs the Aimpoints.

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Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:17:19 PM EDT
[#39]
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It's funny how people traded in their perfectly working eotechs, for an optic that has WORSE parallax, worse reticle and try to explain their reasoning with battery life.

All you basement dwellers never had an issue with their eotechs. You all just followed an Internet fad because it was the current and cool thing to do.
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1. I used my eotech in varied conditions and experienced the massive thermal shift it sucked.
2. Parallax doesn't just magically shift. Put your eye behind the damn thing.

Bottom line the thermal shift was real and made the eotech unusable. If fixed their products have plus and minus like other good scopes if actually fixed. However, they sold our military shit and lied about it that leaves a bad taste in my mouth like the sig response to a defective product that might kill someone. Fuck them
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:25:13 PM EDT
[#40]
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I sent mine back still waiting on the funds
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Yeah; same here.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:32:51 PM EDT
[#41]
I like mine
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:39:33 PM EDT
[#42]
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It's funny how people traded in their perfectly working eotechs, for an optic that has WORSE parallax, worse reticle and try to explain their reasoning with battery life.

All you basement dwellers never had an issue with their eotechs. You all just followed an Internet fad because it was the current and cool thing to do.
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I sold mine right before the thermal shift issue came out because the battery life was sucky compared to Aimpoint
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:39:40 PM EDT
[#43]
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It's funny how people traded in their perfectly working eotechs, for an optic that has WORSE parallax, worse reticle and try to explain their reasoning with battery life.

All you basement dwellers never had an issue with their eotechs. You all just followed an Internet fad because it was the current and cool thing to do.
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I got suckered in by all the Internet hype and the PSA daily deals, now I own two Aimpoints.
One lives on a Ruger charger, the other one is back in the box.
It's time to use the rebate on an exps2. Batteries are cheap.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:42:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:53:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Edited in face of new info.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 5:56:23 PM EDT
[#46]
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1. I used my eotech in varied conditions and experienced the massive thermal shift it sucked.
2. Parallax doesn't just magically shift. Put your eye behind the damn thing.

Bottom line the thermal shift was real and made the eotech unusable. If fixed their products have plus and minus like other good scopes if actually fixed. However, they sold our military shit and lied about it that leaves a bad taste in my mouth like the sig response to a defective product that might kill someone. Fuck them
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I think the issue is that dot sights shouldn't have parallax.  If we wanted that, we'd use ACOGs
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 6:03:06 PM EDT
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He's Travis Haley's son.
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who is this garand thumb guy.
his videos come up in my suggested videos all the time on youtube.


looks like he stumbled across the magpul dynamics videos about 5 years to late and is trying to be the new Travis Haley

He's Travis Haley's son.
I did not know him and Costa had a son.
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 6:10:47 PM EDT
[#48]
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 6:13:28 PM EDT
[#49]
are they they still shit for battery life?  fuck em
Link Posted: 8/22/2017 6:19:31 PM EDT
[#50]
We have the pick of the litter as far as optics are concerned, from elcans, to aimpoints, to trijicons, etc.

And I'll be going on my third deployment soon with the same Eotech exps 3-0.  No issues or neckbearding here
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