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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:56:18 AM EDT
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Cool.
They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:58:14 AM EDT
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Cool. They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. I'd rather see the current BRZ with their 2.0 turbo shoehorned into it. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:58:16 AM EDT
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Mazda needs to make a hard top Miata.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:59:20 AM EDT
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I'd rather see the current BRZ with their 2.0 turbo shoehorned into it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool. They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. I'd rather see the current BRZ with their 2.0 turbo shoehorned into it. This is Arfcom... get both. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 9:59:56 AM EDT
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This is Arfcom... get both.
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Cool. They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. I'd rather see the current BRZ with their 2.0 turbo shoehorned into it. This is Arfcom... get both.
And then put real tires on it. I like the way you think. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:01:11 AM EDT
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Mazda needs to make a hard top Miata. That's my big draw to the BRZ. I've never been a Miata fan, but the new ones look great. A hardtop version would get me interested. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:06:48 AM EDT
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I've never been a Miata fan, but the new ones look great. A hardtop version would get me interested. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mazda needs to make a hard top Miata. That's my big draw to the BRZ. I've never been a Miata fan, but the new ones look great. A hardtop version would get me interested. Mazda is expected to introduce the ND with a PRHT for the 2017 MY. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:44:35 AM EDT
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Cool. They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. Just needs moar horsepowers and less prius tires. IMO, it is down on power because Subaru doesn't want it cutting into STI sales. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 10:57:10 AM EDT
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I'd rather see the current BRZ with their 2.0 turbo shoehorned into it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool. They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. I'd rather see the current BRZ with their 2.0 turbo shoehorned into it. Let me know when they put at least a turbo 3.0 v6 in there. Then I'd fo faster than Kim Jong Un eating a fucking cupcake. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:02:47 AM EDT
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Just needs moar horsepowers and less prius tires. IMO, it is down on power because Subaru doesn't want it cutting into STI sales. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool. They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. Just needs moar horsepowers and less prius tires. IMO, it is down on power because Subaru doesn't want it cutting into STI sales. Those are completely different animals. Even if the power figure was the same, they'd still be in different markets/segments. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:12:40 PM EDT
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Let me know when they put at least a turbo 3.0 v6 in there. Then I'd fo faster than Kim Jong Un eating a fucking cupcake. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool. They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. I'd rather see the current BRZ with their 2.0 turbo shoehorned into it. Let me know when they put at least a turbo 3.0 v6 in there. Then I'd fo faster than Kim Jong Un eating a fucking cupcake. 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:16:43 PM EDT
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ.
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:18:43 PM EDT
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. You've never seen an EVO vs. a regular Lancer, have you? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:19:28 PM EDT
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:21:07 PM EDT
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You've never seen an EVO vs. a regular Lancer, have you? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. You've never seen an EVO vs. a regular Lancer, have you? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I have. The regular lancer isn't a hot looking sport coupe though. It's a sedan. Hot looking sports coupes...I expect to do 2 things. 1) Go fast 2) Handle better than sedans. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:25:57 PM EDT
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Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 Oh I understand it. I just don't agree with the extremity to which they took it. 300hp and 200ft/lb would be a sweet spot for that car....is achievable and wouldn't hurt the thrashyness of it. Having power doesn't mean I have to use it, but not having power means I can't use it. Edit: I honestly still like the BRZ though. I like everything about it except for the power numbers. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:26:18 PM EDT
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Mazda needs to make a hard top Miata. That's my big draw to the BRZ. I'd buy a T-top miata |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:37:18 PM EDT
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Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 Ding. My 325i comes in at 3,260 lbs, and has just ~180hp/~170tq with the 2.5l I6. Absolute blast to drive. I've loaded 1,000+ lbs in it during a move, and if the difference in apparent power was any indication, having just 2,800 lbs to move would be incredible. A BRZ is looking especially neat in a few years. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:41:38 PM EDT
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It's just a rumor, but it's an interesting one. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I think I'd rather see the different manufacturers compete, but this may be what it takes for the Subiyota to survive. http://jalopnik.com/rumor-in-order-to-defeat-the-miata-the-toyobaru-will-1714559005 The Toyobaru needs a turbo, then it'll survive just fine. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:47:58 PM EDT
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Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 If nobody understands, then it was a shitty message. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:54:25 PM EDT
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Cool. They need to do something shed about 3-400 pounds. I'd rather see the current BRZ with their 2.0 turbo shoehorned into it. Let me know when they put at least a turbo 3.0 v6 in there. Then I'd fo faster than Kim Jong Un eating a fucking cupcake. Think 2JZ in a 2000lb frame. Tuned up putting out stupid power on a factory motor. That would be clutch. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 5:56:15 PM EDT
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Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 If noone understands, it's a pretty shitty message. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:07:39 PM EDT
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Fastback Miatas aren't gay! 
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:15:03 PM EDT
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If nobody understands, then it was a shitty message. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 If nobody understands, then it was a shitty message. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah pretty much. I think they're neat cars but too slow for my tastes. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:17:44 PM EDT
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The Toyobaru needs a turbo, then it'll survive just fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's just a rumor, but it's an interesting one. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I think I'd rather see the different manufacturers compete, but this may be what it takes for the Subiyota to survive. http://jalopnik.com/rumor-in-order-to-defeat-the-miata-the-toyobaru-will-1714559005 The Toyobaru needs a turbo, then it'll survive just fine. I think a super would be more fun, faster kick in. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:18:35 PM EDT
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What the hell is an ND? Negligent Discharge?
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:19:09 PM EDT
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Interesting
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:26:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:27:00 PM EDT
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Yeah pretty much. I think they're neat cars but too slow for my tastes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 If nobody understands, then it was a shitty message. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah pretty much. I think they're neat cars but too slow for my tastes. Ditto and I *wanted* to like it to buy it when they came out. Sure, sure you can toss it around but when a Honda minivan can blow your doors off off the light, it leaves a bit to desire. Short little burst of speed is fun and can save your ass from some cluster so I'd rather have the power and not need it. At least the Miata gives you top-down motoring fun and appears to be a much better pkg that the Subuoyta (or whatever.) That car BADLY needs more power, not a ton say about 50-75 more. I get the handling piece for sure but most people don't live close enough to twisties that can really take advantage and then there's the whole saftey issue of doing so. No, not everything has to be 400+ HP monsters but 200 isn't enough IMO and I wouldn't be surprised if the new Eco-boost Mustang and Miata choke out the FRS/BRZ. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 6:29:27 PM EDT
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Ditto and I *wanted* to like it to buy it when they came out. Sure, sure you can toss it around but when a Honda minivan can blow your doors off off the light, it leaves a bit to desire. Short little burst of speed is fun and can save your ass from some cluster so I'd rather have the power and not need it. At least the Miata gives you top-down motoring fun and appears to be a much better pkg that the Subuoyta (or whatever.) That car BADLY needs more power, not a ton say about 50-75 more. I get the handling piece for sure but most people don't live close enough to twisties that can really take advantage and then there's the whole saftey issue of doing so. No, not everything has to be 400+ HP monsters but 200 isn't enough IMO and I wouldn't be surprised if the new Eco-boost Mustang and Miata choke out the FRS/BRZ. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 If nobody understands, then it was a shitty message. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah pretty much. I think they're neat cars but too slow for my tastes. Ditto and I *wanted* to like it to buy it when they came out. Sure, sure you can toss it around but when a Honda minivan can blow your doors off off the light, it leaves a bit to desire. Short little burst of speed is fun and can save your ass from some cluster so I'd rather have the power and not need it. At least the Miata gives you top-down motoring fun and appears to be a much better pkg that the Subuoyta (or whatever.) That car BADLY needs more power, not a ton say about 50-75 more. I get the handling piece for sure but most people don't live close enough to twisties that can really take advantage and then there's the whole saftey issue of doing so. No, not everything has to be 400+ HP monsters but 200 isn't enough IMO and I wouldn't be surprised if the new Eco-boost Mustang and Miata choke out the FRS/BRZ. An ecoboost BRZ would make my pants tight. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 11:14:29 PM EDT
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The Toyobaru needs a turbo, then it'll survive just fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's just a rumor, but it's an interesting one. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I think I'd rather see the different manufacturers compete, but this may be what it takes for the Subiyota to survive. http://jalopnik.com/rumor-in-order-to-defeat-the-miata-the-toyobaru-will-1714559005 The Toyobaru needs a turbo, then it'll survive just fine. Except it wouldn't, because it would be $35k, and it would still lose on paper where most Americans seem to do their driving. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 6:35:18 PM EDT
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Ditto and I *wanted* to like it to buy it when they came out. Sure, sure you can toss it around but when a Honda minivan can blow your doors off off the light, it leaves a bit to desire. Short little burst of speed is fun and can save your ass from some cluster so I'd rather have the power and not need it. At least the Miata gives you top-down motoring fun and appears to be a much better pkg that the Subuoyta (or whatever.) That car BADLY needs more power, not a ton say about 50-75 more. I get the handling piece for sure but most people don't live close enough to twisties that can really take advantage and then there's the whole saftey issue of doing so. No, not everything has to be 400+ HP monsters but 200 isn't enough IMO and I wouldn't be surprised if the new Eco-boost Mustang and Miata choke out the FRS/BRZ. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I never understood why a company that can put out cars as potent as the STI would put out a sports coupe as underpowered as the BRZ. Because you don't understand the idea of the BRZ itself? http://jalopnik.com/what-nobody-understands-about-the-subaru-brz-1698728189 If nobody understands, then it was a shitty message. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah pretty much. I think they're neat cars but too slow for my tastes. Ditto and I *wanted* to like it to buy it when they came out. Sure, sure you can toss it around but when a Honda minivan can blow your doors off off the light, it leaves a bit to desire. Short little burst of speed is fun and can save your ass from some cluster so I'd rather have the power and not need it. At least the Miata gives you top-down motoring fun and appears to be a much better pkg that the Subuoyta (or whatever.) That car BADLY needs more power, not a ton say about 50-75 more. I get the handling piece for sure but most people don't live close enough to twisties that can really take advantage and then there's the whole saftey issue of doing so. No, not everything has to be 400+ HP monsters but 200 isn't enough IMO and I wouldn't be surprised if the new Eco-boost Mustang and Miata choke out the FRS/BRZ. What Honda minivan can do 0-60 in under 6 seconds stock? Because I want one for a beater when it's time to replace my Astro. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 8:41:54 PM EDT
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What Honda minivan can do 0-60 in under 6 seconds stock? Because I want one for a beater when it's time to replace my Astro. Minivans, not a whole lot. The toyota sienna does it in 7 seconds. But the 6 second range for 0-60 is slow. There are about a bajillion stationwagons, fullsize, and sedans in that range. Hundreds of them. other mediocre cars that will fuck up a BRZ Hundreds more not that fast cars that make a BRZ look stupid. |
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Posted: 6/30/2015 8:43:54 PM EDT
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keep current chassis... add turbo and sticky tires.
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