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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:54:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:55:25 AM EDT
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Something tells me it's already been determined how the people will vote
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:59:25 AM EDT
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Something tells me it's already been determined how the people will vote I can hope that the voting procedures are such that any attempted shenanigans by Erdogen are found out. Such would probably lead to violence though. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 9:58:58 AM EDT
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Ataturk's dream died when they let Erdogan live through that coup last year.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:01:13 AM EDT
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Ataturk's dream died when they let Erdogan live through that coup last year. 
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:01:31 AM EDT
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Ataturk's dream died when they let Erdogan live through that coup last year. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:09:08 AM EDT
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Ataturk's dream died when Obama let Erdogan live through that coup last year. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:25:42 AM EDT
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Fixed. Who do you think tipped him off? The irony is that Gulen was by far the more islamist asshole than Erdogen. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:29:35 AM EDT
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Ataturk's dream died when they let Erdogan live through that coup last year. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:38:55 AM EDT
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How many years until full on Turkey Civil War?
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:41:51 AM EDT
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We need the rest of our Garands back before they go full snackbar. At least the Turk Navy was nice enough to return theirs.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:42:43 AM EDT
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Anyone with brains adequate to pour piss from a boot saw the demise of secularism in Turkey coming at least as far back as 2003 when Erdogen became Prime Minister.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:49:27 AM EDT
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Anyone with brains adequate to pour piss from a boot saw the demise of secularism in Turkey coming at least as far back as 2003 when Erdogen became Prime Minister. You know its a borderline country when the military traditionally throws coups to keep the government secular. Hardly the democratic model we as Americans like to think we support. Yet when it comes to countering Soviet aggression and keeping the Soviet navy bottled up in the Black Sea then we gain strange bedfellows. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:55:33 AM EDT
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It'll be interesting for future generations to see how long it took for a new Ataturk to rise again...
I think Erdogan and the death of the secularists are a done deal in that country, it's on the way right down the hole. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:56:30 AM EDT
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Ataturk's dream died when they let Erdogan live through that coup last year. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 10:58:14 AM EDT
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Ataturk's dream died when they let Erdogan live through that coup last year. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:00:08 AM EDT
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Sadly, You know its a borderline country when the military traditionally throws coups to keep the government secular. Hardly the democratic model we as Americans like to think we support. Yet when it comes to countering Soviet aggression and keeping the Soviet navy bottled up in the Black Sea then we gain strange bedfellows. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone with brains adequate to pour piss from a boot saw the demise of secularism in Turkey coming at least as far back as 2003 when Erdogen became Prime Minister. You know its a borderline country when the military traditionally throws coups to keep the government secular. Hardly the democratic model we as Americans like to think we support. Yet when it comes to countering Soviet aggression and keeping the Soviet navy bottled up in the Black Sea then we gain strange bedfellows. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:10:24 AM EDT
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Yup. Erdogan has Ottoman Empire dreams. Loves the Muslim Brotherhood and everything it stands for. https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/7494-george-soros-allies-with-the-muslim-brotherhood I'm wondering if NATO is about to swing Islamist. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 11:20:43 AM EDT
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How many years until full on Turkey Civil War? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:18:59 PM EDT
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Fuck erdogan
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:28:57 PM EDT
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No suprise, look who else loves the Muslim Brotherhood. https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/7494-george-soros-allies-with-the-muslim-brotherhood I'm wondering if NATO is about to swing Islamist. That asshole has his hands into so much bullshit. Watching and reading up on the Minerva Initiative right now... |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:35:23 PM EDT
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Something tells me it's already been determined how the people will vote
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:40:06 PM EDT
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Something tells me it's already been determined how the people will vote |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:55:02 PM EDT
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Something tells me it's already been determined how the people will vote They will be the next Iran. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 12:59:50 PM EDT
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Well, it's good to see the tie in with Soros for the whole R2P scam that Samantha Power was pressing so hard for in the UN (successfully), being the excuse to invade Qaddafi's Libya. That got the Arab Spring into high gear. It was her, Hillary and Sarkozy pulling Cameron into it that got it into gear. Then ISIL. Assholes. Didn't know it was Soros behind it though with his International Crisis Group. That asshole has his hands into so much bullshit. Watching and reading up on the Minerva Initiative right now... I think they're up to something with the whole Turkey snuggling with the Russians bullshit. I'm betting it's a posture to get a more Islamist friendly set embedded within NATO. If they feign a new alignment NATO will offer them a greater command role in the their region to woo them back into the fold and they'll get more sway at NATO headquarters. These assholes do everything for a specific goal. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 1:09:14 PM EDT
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How many years until full on Turkey Civil War? |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:19:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:26:14 PM EDT
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With all that's going on in Turkey this whole scenario makes perfect sense.
Turkey has a shit ton of problems right now. . . dealing with a transition of power (via a new leader) won't be one. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:26:59 PM EDT
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Voted Yes |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 3:32:10 PM EDT
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I reckon if the religious fanatics triumph it will set the Turks back a few centuries.
The "your-a-peons" were wise to not let them in the EU. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:31:12 PM EDT
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The Aye's have it...
Turkey is lost On the pro side, I would totally be down with a Turkish war wife... 
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:45:35 PM EDT
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Im not convinced that Erdogen didnt know about it before hand. It was incredibly neatly done how he wrapped up the attackers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ataturk's dream died when they let Erdogan live through that coup last year. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:45:50 PM EDT
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............and another supposedly secular westernized majority muslim country has flipped.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:50:17 PM EDT
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............and another supposedly secular westernized majority muslim country has flipped. Iran Afghanistan and now Turkey Seems to only go one way. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:52:43 PM EDT
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Fuck those terrorists, no matter the vote outcome.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:55:22 PM EDT
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Pretty much. Iran Afghanistan and now Turkey Seems to only go one way. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 4:57:28 PM EDT
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Erdogan has used the coup to erase all opposition involved or not. Little more than the usual Islamic cleansing. Say so long to belly dancing.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:16:48 PM EDT
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We need to get our people - aircraft - maintenance / support equipment - and the nukes out.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:20:07 PM EDT
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I think the nukes are gone, Id suspect that they were moved after the coup and the resulting demonstration outside Incirlik
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:27:49 PM EDT
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It's time to reevaluate our relationship with them. They can't be trusted in any capacity.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:30:34 PM EDT
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Well there goes the neighborhood Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Voted Yes |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 5:57:22 PM EDT
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Shit show. Open the flood gates for immigration. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:02:36 PM EDT
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Not sure how turkey and Russian ME views are aligned.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:05:05 PM EDT
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Im not convinced that Erdogen didnt know about it before hand. It was incredibly neatly done how he wrapped up the attackers. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:28:02 PM EDT
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Something tells me it's already been determined how the people will vote |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:40:41 PM EDT
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About that EU thing...
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:42:55 PM EDT
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Not sure how turkey and Russian ME views are aligned. Turkey's regional goals are somewhat foggier at this point. Erdogan's position can now be very fluid.... |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:46:13 PM EDT
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I believe that their are US, or NATO nukes deployed in Turkey. Time to get them out.
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Posted: 4/16/2017 6:54:30 PM EDT
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Ataturk's dream died when they let Erdogan live through that coup last year. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 7:02:19 PM EDT
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Fuck Turkey, it'll be even more of a Middle East shithole in the next few years. Expect the refugee crisis to get worse.
Can we annex Constantinople? |
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