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Posted: 9/20/2005 6:17:14 PM EDT


www.facesofmeth.us/main.htm



The last one looks better to me.. the second after 2 years.. YIKES !!


Realist out
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:20:21 PM EDT
Oh meth addicts...

When our state put sudafed behind the counter, and restricted the amount one could buy, crazy meth addicts would ask random people to buy sudafed for them outside of stores for 50 cents in return

Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:20:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:21:01 PM EDT
They looked bad before. Wow.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:25:59 PM EDT
Damn that stuff totally messes people up. Down here we have a major meth problem
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:27:56 PM EDT
I went to my 20 year HS reunion last year. One guy I went to school with looks like he is 80 years old, but was only 38 at the time. He is an independent trucker, and stays awake a lot. No teeth, hollow cheeks, sunken eyeballs.

Not very pretty at all...
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:28:27 PM EDT
Damn.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:31:01 PM EDT
The lowest recovery rate of any illegal drug ever. If they were smiling you'd see the blood flow to their teeth had withered, and their teeth rotting from the top down.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:31:32 PM EDT
Actually, the far right chic is still hot. Just looks like she woke up with a hangover. Fix her hair and some makeup and everyone here would hit it.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:34:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FieroLoki:
Actually, the far right chic is still hot. Just looks like she woke up with a hangover. Fix her hair and some makeup and everyone here would hit it.



And then have a group buy on penicillin
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:34:18 PM EDT
They need PICs of the teeth. The dissolve from the back to the front. Its really easy to pick out iceheads just by looking inside their mouth.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:35:02 PM EDT
Great idea.

This should be the homepage at the computers in high schools.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:36:35 PM EDT
A co-worker who used to work in CA as a sheriff mentioned that the meth junkies would buy each other's scab while in the joint to get every last bit of meth from it. Tell me that ain't sick!
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:36:38 PM EDT
Yes, and the stench of rotmouth is pretty damn overpowering as well..........



Originally Posted By ARDOC:
They need PICs of the teeth. The dissolve from the back to the front. Its really easy to pick out iceheads just by looking inside their mouth.

Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:39:19 PM EDT
nasty stuff
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:39:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:41:08 PM EDT
So it wasn't the Ring that did that to Gollum after all....
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:43:10 PM EDT
And we got ijits on this board that say that the war on drugs is useless.

wganz

Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:51:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:
And we got ijits on this board that say that the war on drugs is useless.

wganz




www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/cu/CU38.html

The Consumers Union Report on Licit and Illicit Drugs
by Edward M. Brecher and the Editors of Consumer Reports Magazine, 1972

Chapter 38. How speed was popularized

The damage done by heroin, as demonstrated in Part I, is largely traceable to antinarcotics laws and policies and to the heroin black market that has grown up under the shelter of those laws and policies. The damage done by LSD, as we shall also see, is in large part a function of laws and attitudes. This is certainly not true of the speed phenomenon. Unlike the heroin and the LSD cases, it is large intravenous doses of the drug itself that have devastating effects in the case of speed. But laws and policies were certainly responsible in considerable part for popularizing speed.

One instance of this, the antispeed campaign launched by the United States Food and Drug Administration in 1962 and 1963, has already been cited. It was the publicity accompanying this campaign that alerted a whole generation of young people to the perils (and pleasures) of speed. As in other cases described earlier and to be described in subsequent chapters, the peril became the lure.

A somewhat different process helped to popularize speed following San Francisco's 1967 "Summer of Love." That summer many thousands of adolescents took off for the Haight-Ashbury district, the center of the "hippie movement," where marijuana and LSD were freely available. This migration, and others like it, will be discussed at length in Part IX. There was relatively little speed, and little violence, that first summer. * The sheer size of the immigration, however, overwhelmed the LSD–– using "flower people" who had established the Haight-Ashbury subculture. In increasing numbers, they moved into the hills. Their places were taken by young people looking, not for love and mind-expansion, but for drug "kicks." Marijuana and LSD faded into the background; speed took over. New times, new customs, new participants, new needs, new wants–– and a new drug to meet those needs and wants.



* By September 1967, however, one-third of 413 residents of the Haight-Ashbury area had injected amphetamines intravenously at least once. 1



The conversion to speed was facilitated, moreover, by the antimarijuana and anti-LSD campaigns being waged at the time. The "LSD chromosome scare," to be discussed in Part VII, was a central feature of this campaign. Many young people heeded the warnings with which the newspapers, magazines, and radio and TV programs were flooded, and gave up LSD. In its place they turned to speed. The change was for the worse.

Users of marijuana and LSD recognized and publicized the overwhelming hazards of speed in an unsuccessful attempt to turn the tide. Thus the poet Allen Ginsberg, the author of "Howl," remarked in an interview in the Los Angeles Free Press, an underground newspaper: "Let's issue a general declaration to all the underground community, contra speedamos ex cathedra. Speed is antisocial, paranoid making, it's a drag, bad for your body, bad for your mind, generally speaking, in the long run uncreative and it's a plague in the whole dope: industry. All the nice gentle dope fiends are getting screwed up by the real horror monster Frankenstein speed freaks who are going around stealing and bad mouthing everybody." 2 This quote from Ginsberg was widely publicized throughout the underground press. Timothy Leary, the Beatles, and the Mothers of Invention also warned against speed. 3 The overground press, however, continued to rail against LSD–– and marijuana.

Police and narcotics officials, too, must bear some of the responsibility. Their main concern at the time was certainly marijuana and LSD, the traditional "hippie" drugs. While they searched for caches of those drugs, speed took over. A seventeen-year-old girl whose friends had used speed remarked: "Some police officers we interviewed said pot was deadly and addictive! When kids try it and see it's all a lie they figure the stuff about speed is false, too." 4

Two psychiatrists, Drs. James R. Allen and Louis Jolyon West, and a medical student, Joshua Kaufman, after a study of adolescents who ran away to the Haight-Ashbury in the summer of 1967, made the same point in more general terms: "The horrible reactions to marijuana predicted by various authorities were virtually never seen. The runaways generally took this to mean that all the widely advertised dangers of drugs were establishment lies. This further alienated them from the social structure and made them more willing to experiment with all sorts of chemicals." 5

Even the warning, "Speed kills," may have played its subtle role in popularizing speed. The 1970 Interim Report of Canada's Commission of Inquiry into the Non-Medical Use of Drugs (popularly known as the Le Dain Commission) comments on this possibility:

Some "speed" users who inject almost suicidal doses of methamphetamine into their veins without any regard for their safety and health, may actually be trying to test the truth of the youth slogan "Speed Kills". The role of the doomed person who is at once a martyr sacrificing himself, a hero braving the confrontation with certain destruction and a gambler playing dice with death, is a role which seems to have a strong seductive pull for some young people who are morbidly hungry for compassion, admiration and excitement. For these individuals the slogan "Speed Kills", may, paradoxically, carry more attractive than deterrent power–– and thus may not serve the purpose for which it is being promoted. 6

Sound public policy, the speed phenomenon suggests, would dictate telling young people the truth. They should be informed, for example, that speed, though it very rarely kills, is far more damaging than marijuana. But most drug propaganda campaigns try to keep this a secret for it may also reveal to young people that marijuana is far less damaging than speed.

We shall return to this theme–– the many ways in which laws, policies, and propaganda campaigns serve to encourage a shift from less dangerous to more dangerous drugs–– in subsequent chapters of this Report.

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Historically speaking, the biggest single cause of drug epidemics among US children is hysterical anti-drug campaigns.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:55:39 PM EDT
Why do they have sores all over thir faces?
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 6:59:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MST2:
Why do they have sores all over thir faces?



They have teh aids.

Just guessing. Maybe a general lack of hygiene and poor blood flow to their skin......poor ability to heal wounds and sores.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:01:00 PM EDT
Isn't the teeth problem attributed to lack of care and those jittery freaks grinding their teeth constantly?
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:01:21 PM EDT
Ewwww...
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:02:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/20/2005 7:03:21 PM EDT by TheFreepster]
The face of drunkeness, socialism, dishonor, and murder:

Before:



After:

Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:04:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wganz:
And we got ijits on this board that say that the war on drugs is useless.

wganz




If the war on drugs was so useful, then why can't they keep drugs out of prison? If we can't keep drugs out of prison, then how do you suggest we keep them out of schools? Why are the farmers in Afghanistan still allowed to grow poppies and sell opium and heroin when we have conquered that country with true military force?

The war on drugs is just as useful as the war on poverty. It's not about drugs or poverty. It is all about control.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:05:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MST2:
Why do they have sores all over thir faces?



They have a lot of nervous energy and meth makes them feel as if there is something under their skin so they pick at it a lot. That, and generally poor hygeine and personal care.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:05:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MST2:
Why do they have sores all over thir faces?


they called um speed fleas when I worked at the jail i was told had something to do with their skin feeling weird and they constantly scratch and pick at themselves
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:08:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TheFreepster:
The face of drunkeness, socialism, dishonor, and murder:

Before:



After:




...
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:08:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DPeacher:

Originally Posted By wganz:
And we got ijits on this board that say that the war on drugs is useless.

wganz




If the war on drugs was so useful, then why can't they keep drugs out of prison? If we can't keep drugs out of prison, then how do you suggest we keep them out of schools? Why are the farmers in Afghanistan still allowed to grow poppies and sell opium and heroin when we have conquered that country with true military force?

The war on drugs is just as useful as the war on poverty. It's not about drugs or poverty. It is all about control.



By the estimate of Federal officials themselves, they seize about five percent of the drugs on the market. Also according to their own estimates, they would have to seize about seventy percent before it really made a difference in the drug problem. That is, they would have to do fourteen times better than they have ever done before it really started to diminish the problems shown in these pictures.

It is no exaggeration to say that, in terms of percentage of profits, shoplifters do more damage to WalMart than the cops do to the drug trade.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:11:38 PM EDT
I think our focus on drugs is wrong. They're going to get drugs and abuse them. Let's focus on sterilizing them so they can't have kids - ever. Give them $100 for coming in to get sterilized. They can use the $100 any way they want - including buying and abusing drugs.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:15:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Kevin_M4:
Isn't the teeth problem attributed to lack of care and those jittery freaks grinding their teeth constantly?



I stand to be corrected, but chronic amphetamine use kills blood flow to their teeth I believe.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:15:58 PM EDT
Where are the libertarians to tell us how wonderful it would be to legalize this crap?

Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:17:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SoCalJBT:
Where are the libertarians to tell us how wonderful it would be to legalize this crap?




Here, I don't give a shit what happens to those people. Natural selection. Every society has retards.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:20:54 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ISED8U:

Originally Posted By Kevin_M4:
Isn't the teeth problem attributed to lack of care and those jittery freaks grinding their teeth constantly?



I stand to be corrected, but chronic amphetamine use kills blood flow to their teeth I believe.



You stand corrected. He was correct.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:21:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/20/2005 7:22:03 PM EDT by dave223]
I'm trying to find before and after pics of my brother in law and his skank pos. They are as bad or worse than those. Instead of just scabs on the face, they picked the skin off of their arms, legs, backs, and chests. They each lost about 60 pounds. Nasty meth skeletons with scabs and God only knows what else. Left behind their beautiful three year old daughter for our family to raise. You wanna see the other side? Here is the real victim:



Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:21:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SoCalJBT:
Where are the libertarians to tell us how wonderful it would be to legalize this crap?




From the look of those pictures, I don't see any success with the war on drugs. If you can't keep that shit out of prison, how do you think you can keep it off the streets and out of schools?

I guess you think The Prohibition was a great success? Al Capone was a two bit pimp before Prohibition. Think about that for a minute.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:23:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SoCalJBT:
Where are the libertarians to tell us how wonderful it would be to legalize this crap?




Alcohol causes far more problems than all the illegal drugs combined. Does that mean that alcohol prohibition was the best approach?
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 7:32:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By wolfman97:

Originally Posted By ISED8U:

Originally Posted By Kevin_M4:
Isn't the teeth problem attributed to lack of care and those jittery freaks grinding their teeth constantly?



I stand to be corrected, but chronic amphetamine use kills blood flow to their teeth I believe.



You stand corrected. He was correct.



He was indeed correct. Afgter a brief search it seems there are probably multiple factors.

More than two dozen different stories about meth mouth have appeared in Nexis since the IBD mention, but the majority of them fail to advance the story in any significant way. The better articles note, as IBD did correctly, that methamphetamine users suffer from dry mouth (xerostomia), which contributes to tooth decay and gum disease. Many of them also find that many users attempt to refresh their dry mouths with sugared sodas, which accelerates decay. The best articles explain that many meth-mouthers get that way because they've neglected brushing, flossing, and regular visits to the dentist. They also suffer from a nervous teeth grinding habit. Such a regimen is almost always a prescription for tooth loss.
Link Posted: 9/20/2005 8:01:26 PM EDT

Where are the libertarians to tell us how wonderful it would be to legalize this crap?



Here I am, HI!

OK first off, don't make the mistake of lumping all drugs together. Why dont they have a Faces of pot web site? Second The "new-prohibitionists" have lied and made up stuff so often that plain out I just don't belive anything they say. As far as I'm concerned those pictures are doctored. Until i can see it with my own eyes. Remember that Bullshit about X eating your Brain accompanied by that brain scan?? LIES! The people who did it were even exposed in the science section of the new york times. Remember crack babies in the eighties? so where are they now? Turns out they never exsisted. And finally lets just say hypothetically that those photos were real, I could just as easily make a siite called the "faces of Alcohol" then show some guy in High school then show him as a drunken homeless bum years later! My conclusion? Why ban Alcohol of course, oh no wait this is Deja vu I think. Been there done that, failed miserably. Let's move on to a better approach.
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