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Posted: 9/11/2004 11:50:06 AM EST
He says if these documents came from where he thinks they might have come from, it could be "disasterous for my party".

Damage control

rip
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:52:49 AM EST
This is obviously not a CURRENT Dimocrat stratagist- must be a Clintonista... Because that is not spin, its anti-spin, is almost mia culpa
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:53:10 AM EST
ya, he was WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY too logical to be a democrap...............or so i would have thought
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:56:02 AM EST
I think CBS is jumping on a grenade here by insisting the memos are real, despite all evidence. If they admit that they're bogus and CBS apologizes and admits they made a mistake, you know what the next question will be?

Where did you get these memos? Who gave them to you?



CBS is in a lose-lose situation. There's no possible reason for them to protect a source that's bogus. But there is if that source is the party/campaign of the man they want to win.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:58:28 AM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 11:59:57 AM EST by ArmdLbrl]
I don't think so Raven.

The Internet is going to track down WHO made those forgeries and why. The debate is already over on if they are fake- CBS's refusal to admit reality aside- so the only continuation of this story IS finding who created them. Weather or not CBS admits to it will just determine how hard they fall not that the truith will out.

The longer it goes without coming out the more that will be taken as proof that it was the DNC anyways.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 11:59:25 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:03:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 12:05:06 PM EST by Max_Mike]

He says if these documents came from where he thinks they might have come from, it could be "disasterous for my party".


That sounds like Pat Cadell he was Carter's pollster… if so yesterday he said if the documents were fake Kerry was done and even at that the Democratic Party had still bigger problems. He said he was trying to save the Democratic Party by speaking.

To be honest I don’t think Cadell liked Kerry at all before this mess.

In addition to Cadell also said that Kerry’s slide in internal Democratic Party polling numbers had not stopped and was starting to effect his base voter, if this trend was not stopped in another couples weeks Kerry could not win. I hope he is right.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:05:58 PM EST
Ahhhhhhh, the meltdown continues and the plot thickens.

Anybody been over on DU today? How are they handling the news? If it's as comical as usual, I might have to go over and do some reading.

It's funny how all the dems were probably foaming at the mouth over CBS's story when it first broke. Now that it's been proven a bunch of shit, they are trying to distance themselves as fast as possible.

I believe this desperate attempt to discredit Bush (likely from someone within the Kerry campaign) will fracture and splinter the democratic party. The smarter democrats will try to get as far away from this as possible to save their own careers as well as to protect possible future party candidates who may be considering a run for the White House. As such, they may pull their support for Kerry, or at the least not publicly endorse him. OTOH, the more dumb democrats will continue to ride this sinking ship to the bottom.

But I think things are going to get interesting and there will be lots of uproar taking place between the dems over this situation.

-CH
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:06:14 PM EST
um, they might have a reason for not divulging where they got the document if they got the document from Dan Rather's office or home computer.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:07:15 PM EST
It was Pat Cardell. If he is truely a Democrat, he's probably the only one I have ever liked. I've seen him numerous times and I think he has always presented himself as fair and balanced.

Bomber
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:12:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/11/2004 12:14:06 PM EST by Max_Mike]

Anybody been over on DU today? How are they handling the news? If it's as comical as usual, I might have to go over and do some reading.


Most are at their irrational best/worst.

Most at the DU are insisting the documents are real and all the fuss is a conspiracy drummed up by Karl Rove and his puppet Bush…

There are a few cracks thought… some do realize that the documents are fakes and if CBS does not come out and say they made a mistake and show the documents did not come from the Kerry camp huge and irreparable damage to them will insure.

You get the feeling the are all very worried.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:16:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebomber:
It was Pat Cardell. If he is truely a Democrat, he's probably the only one I have ever liked. I've seen him numerous times and I think he has always presented himself as fair and balanced.

Bomber



He is an old school Democrat something like Zell Miller, not a conservative but what you might call a John Kennedy Democrat.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:20:14 PM EST
Ya gotta love it how Bush keeps driving his opponents into self-destruction...it's glorious to watch...it's MEMOGATE...Kerry is going down in flames!!!

BTW, I still think the Clintons are behind all this...they want Bush to win so there will be an open seat in the White House when Hillary runs for President in 2008...

Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:21:43 PM EST
That was Pat Caddell. Yes, a lib - but an honest guy in terms of how he thinks campaigns should be conducted.

He spoke out a lot against the Clinton mob running the party.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 12:46:42 PM EST

Originally Posted By IamtheNRA:
Ya gotta love it how Bush keeps driving his opponents into self-destruction...it's glorious to watch...it's MEMOGATE...Kerry is going down in flames!!!

BTW, I still think the Clintons are behind all this...they want Bush to win so there will be an open seat in the White House when Hillary runs for President in 2008...





and if this happens i hope everyone remembers her statement of we will take from you to give to all for the better..............or however she said it and i hope like hell she makes another dumbass statement like that and self destructs.
Link Posted: 9/11/2004 1:02:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By IamtheNRA:
Ya gotta love it how Bush keeps driving his opponents into self-destruction...it's glorious to watch...it's MEMOGATE...Kerry is going down in flames!!!

BTW, I still think the Clintons are behind all this...they want Bush to win so there will be an open seat in the White House when Hillary runs for President in 2008...




Just in time to get her ass kicked by Jeb Bush
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