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Posted: 12/12/2013 6:28:31 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 6:31:03 PM EST by 21BoomCBTENGR]
Choose one, choose well.

Explain your position if you dare.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:30:01 PM EST
IBTP
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:30:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
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Had to be one.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:32:15 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:


Had to be one.
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
IBTP


Had to be one.


I come prepared OP!!

and Kitteh too!

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:35:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KennyW1983:


I come prepared OP!!
http://americanlivewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tin-Foil-Cat-Hat-1.jpg
and Kitteh too!

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Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
IBTP


Had to be one.


I come prepared OP!!
http://americanlivewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tin-Foil-Cat-Hat-1.jpg
and Kitteh too!



Kitteh doesn't look pleased...
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:35:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 6:37:43 PM EST by LibertarianYankee]
conspiracies would be well funded by individual people who keep their hands clean and hire a small bunch of professionals who enact them.

usually only 1 or 2 would actually concoct plan and coordinate logistics. operators would not know the full story and were even perhaps lied to to gain their help.

financers = powerful people who don't care to know the details, just pay for "something to happen"
planners = folks in powerful positions willing to go rogue on the side who have the expertise and connections to make something happen
operators = folks known and trusted by the planner(s) who agree to go rogue for side compensation

risk mitigation and all of that.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:38:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By KennyW1983:


I come prepared OP!!
http://americanlivewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tin-Foil-Cat-Hat-1.jpg
and Kitteh too!

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Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By KennyW1983:
IBTP


Had to be one.


I come prepared OP!!
http://americanlivewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Tin-Foil-Cat-Hat-1.jpg
and Kitteh too!




Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:38:12 PM EST
fail...no choice for both
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:40:17 PM EST
I say both!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:42:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By aztrooper:
I say both!
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See, it can't be both, it's one or the other, Arfcom finally has to make up its mind!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:42:51 PM EST
Now or then? It makes a huge difference.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:44:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Attman:
Now or then? It makes a huge difference.

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Future.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:48:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:


Future.
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By Attman:
Now or then? It makes a huge difference.



Future.



It won't be easy to pull off the big stuff again so I'll go with incompetent. The past was way different.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:51:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Attman:



It won't be easy to pull off the big stuff again so I'll go with incompetent. The past was way different.
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Originally Posted By Attman:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By Attman:
Now or then? It makes a huge difference.



Future.



It won't be easy to pull off the big stuff again so I'll go with incompetent. The past was way different.


By big stuff you mean...?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:53:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:

By big stuff you mean...?
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Aliens man, little fucking green men.

No way we could come up with velcro and Tang on our own.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:54:02 PM EST
Ever see Swordfish...kinda like that.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:54:52 PM EST
The govt could not successfully run a lemonade stand.

I vote incompetent assholes.


Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:55:41 PM EST
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G36s and manscaped facial hair?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:55:43 PM EST
I voted the government is full of incompetent buffoons. However the conspiracy is *WHO* put them there and their evil purpose is the ultimate collapse of America that will result from the country being run by incompetent buffoons.
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:57:45 PM EST
Per arfcom, get both!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:58:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:


See, it can't be both, it's one or the other, Arfcom finally has to make up its mind!
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By aztrooper:
I say both!


See, it can't be both, it's one or the other, Arfcom finally has to make up its mind!

I say both as well. OP sucks.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:58:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:


By big stuff you mean...?
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By Attman:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By Attman:
Now or then? It makes a huge difference.



Future.



It won't be easy to pull off the big stuff again so I'll go with incompetent. The past was way different.


By big stuff you mean...?


MKUltra, Operation Northwoods, even the A-Bomb.


Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:58:58 PM EST
Like the nuke that was supposed to go off in SC that Lindsay Graham let out? It was supposed to coincide with a solar pole shift that would have effectively ended life as we know it. But for the 3 military generals who have since been disappeared, we would be starving now.

They set the nuke off 600 miles east in the atlantic.



Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:59:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By FlyingGorilla:
I voted the government is full of incompetent buffoons. However the conspiracy is *WHO* put them there and their evil purpose is the ultimate collapse of America that will result from the country being run by incompetent buffoons.
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So America is like a recurring episode of Pinky and The Brain, with The Brain being the Illuminati and Pinky being the government continually screwing up the Illuminatis plans?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:03:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Attman:


MKUltra, Operation Northwoods, even the A-Bomb.


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Originally Posted By Attman:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By Attman:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By Attman:
Now or then? It makes a huge difference.



Future.



It won't be easy to pull off the big stuff again so I'll go with incompetent. The past was way different.


By big stuff you mean...?


MKUltra, Operation Northwoods, even the A-Bomb.




True, but those were definitely different days.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:08:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:


So America is like a recurring episode of Pinky and The Brain, with The Brain being the Illuminati and Pinky being the government continually screwing up the Illuminatis plans?
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By FlyingGorilla:
I voted the government is full of incompetent buffoons. However the conspiracy is *WHO* put them there and their evil purpose is the ultimate collapse of America that will result from the country being run by incompetent buffoons.


So America is like a recurring episode of Pinky and The Brain, with The Brain being the Illuminati and Pinky being the government continually screwing up the Illuminatis plans?



So what are we going to do tonight, Brain?

The same thing we do every night Pinkie, try to take over the world!

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True, but those were definitely different days.
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Yeah, the government is way less pernicious now

...

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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:


See, it can't be both, it's one or the other, Arfcom finally has to make up its mind!
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By aztrooper:
I say both!


See, it can't be both, it's one or the other, Arfcom finally has to make up its mind!


With all the power it has accumulated, even if it was 95% buffoons and incompetent fools, the other 5% could do some seriously scary shit with all that power if they decided to coordinate for nefarious purposes.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:11:24 PM EST
The government is just a fall guy.
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Originally Posted By HKHamartia:
Like the nuke that was supposed to go off in SC that Lindsay Graham let out? It was supposed to coincide with a solar pole shift that would have effectively ended life as we know it. But for the 3 military generals who have since been disappeared, we would be starving now.

They set the nuke off 600 miles east in the atlantic.



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Shit, I always forget about that one. I haven't been the same since macho grande.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:14:33 PM EST
What the hell? Why not BOTH option?

I think on a whole the government is full of self serving liars who get fat on the cash cow. They have no moral fiber and will screw the American public blind, steal from our children and rape our constitution.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:17:00 PM EST
You don't have to look any further than Ed Snowden to know the real answer.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:17:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 7:18:07 PM EST by ASUsax]
When faced with the options that someone is either (A) Stupid, or (B) Evil; I tend to believe they're Stupid until it is proven pretty solidly that they're Evil.

Some people, however, test my belief in this system.

I find this is a good way to judge certain posters on ARFCOM.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:25:33 PM EST
B)
They just want you to think they are bumbling idiots so the sheeple don't catch on.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:28:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:


G36s and manscaped facial hair?
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Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By Aiden:
Ever see Swordfish...kinda like that.


G36s and manscaped facial hair?


Boobs man, boobs!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:28:36 PM EST
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Originally Posted By QueenDeNile:
What the hell? Why not BOTH option?

I think on a whole the government is full of self serving liars who get fat on the cash cow. They have no moral fiber and will screw the American public blind, steal from our children and rape our constitution.
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See, you seem to lean more into the evil conspiracy side than bumbling moron side then .
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Boobs man, boobs!
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Originally Posted By The_Waabit:
Originally Posted By 21BoomCBTENGR:
Originally Posted By Aiden:
Ever see Swordfish...kinda like that.


G36s and manscaped facial hair?


Boobs man, boobs!


I wore out that part of my VHS as a teenager. Yes, I was a teenager when Swordfish came out.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:35:23 PM EST
I believe the gov't is run by secretive buffoons. So maybe?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:39:21 PM EST
It has to be a get both situation. There are whackjobs that want nothing more than to see things run their utopian way, and they come up with their own versions of the five year plan.

Unfortunately for them, a lot of the people executing the five year plan are DMV/CIF folks.

"I'm sorry Warlord, but you have to fill out Form 8787X and have it approved by your chain of command to requisition the bombs to nuke them from orbit."
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 8:07:18 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 9:56:41 PM EST
holy fuck 50/50 just about on the poll




Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:16:08 PM EST
The key word is "huge" The government can do really creepy. cool sinister stuff, but huge and secret don't go together.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:17:49 PM EST
Soooo in

50/50 so far
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:26:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By vintovka:
The key word is "huge" The government can do really creepy. cool sinister stuff, but huge and secret don't go together.
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:27:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/12/2013 11:34:40 PM EST by Enlightenme556]
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Originally Posted By LibertarianYankee:
conspiracies would be well funded by individual people who keep their hands clean and hire a small bunch of professionals who enact them.

usually only 1 or 2 would actually concoct plan and coordinate logistics. operators would not know the full story and were even perhaps lied to to gain their help.

financers = powerful people who don't care to know the details, just pay for "something to happen"
planners = folks in powerful positions willing to go rogue on the side who have the expertise and connections to make something happen
operators = folks known and trusted by the planner(s) who agree to go rogue for side compensation

risk mitigation and all of that.
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Originally Posted By LibertarianYankee:
conspiracies would be well funded by individual people who keep their hands clean and hire a small bunch of professionals who enact them.

usually only 1 or 2 would actually concoct plan and coordinate logistics. operators would not know the full story and were even perhaps lied to to gain their help.

financers = powerful people who don't care to know the details, just pay for "something to happen"
planners = folks in powerful positions willing to go rogue on the side who have the expertise and connections to make something happen
operators = folks known and trusted by the planner(s) who agree to go rogue for side compensation

risk mitigation and all of that.


Ironic
Well you won't be getting and truther crap from me, so sorry to disappoint you.

If you even bothered to read my other posts on the event, you'll realize I am far from a truther and in fact despise them.



But yeah, risk mitigation, and all that.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:28:11 PM EST
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Originally Posted By The_Evil_One:
Originally Posted By vintovka:
The key word is "huge" The government can do really creepy. cool sinister stuff, but huge and secret don't go together.


http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/3d/3d7594fa86a133594f4b6578c54ae092d796be293a6f3­03470e289db115596c7.jpg


Link Posted: 12/12/2013 11:59:44 PM EST
Better to overestimate them, then to underestimate them.
Link Posted: 12/13/2013 12:10:07 AM EST
Get both.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

I think you worded that poorly.
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