The big problems with our times. The way I see it.

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Posted: 10/7/2005 11:09:59 AM EDT

All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:11:33 AM EDT

[#1]

I blame the Internet.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:13:06 AM EDT

[#2]

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I blame the Internet.

It is part to blame, it exposes people to so much people begin to see it as being accepted.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:13:50 AM EDT

[#3]

Yes, those things are bad but, the root problem is that there are simply to many people. We need to eliminate about 4 billion or so. Preferably not anyone I know or myself.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:15:45 AM EDT

[#4]

It is called personal choice,

and sadly the things you have mentioned have allways been around, BUT in todays world of mass communication and instant information access, you just hear more about it.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:16:07 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

From my suburbanite foxhole.. I don't think it is a fantasy of theirs, more like...

Poor/no future/boring vs. poor/no future/exciting criminal lifestyle

"'Live large.. kill a brother!' This message brought to you by the Inner-city Urban Youth Counsel for Extra-Curricular Activities" <- I exagerated to try to make it comical.

*shrug*

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:17:00 AM EDT

[#6]

I heard somebody say, "What one generation tolerates, the next enjoys to excess."

Ain't it the truth.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:17:35 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
It is called personal choice,

and sadly the things you have mentioned have allways been around, BUT in todays world of mass communication and instant information access, you just hear more about it.

Yes thats my point, It has always been around but today it is simply okay. No one should feel bad for anything they do, pleasure above all.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:18:05 AM EDT

[#8]

I blame the advances in "saftey" that keep stupid people from dying.
I blame free medical care and welfare programs, alowing lower income groups to breed uncontrollably exponentialy increasing the lower income groups population, and keeping stupid people from dying.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:20:43 AM EDT

[#9]

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It is called personal choice,

and sadly the things you have mentioned have allways been around, BUT in todays world of mass communication and instant information access, you just hear more about it.

Yes thats my point, It has always been around but today it is simply okay. No one should feel bad for anything they do, pleasure above all.

I dont beleive it is OK, as I beleive most people out there do not beleive it is OK.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:24:02 AM EDT

[#10]

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It is called personal choice,

and sadly the things you have mentioned have allways been around, BUT in todays world of mass communication and instant information access, you just hear more about it.

Yes thats my point, It has always been around but today it is simply okay. No one should feel bad for anything they do, pleasure above all.

I dont beleive it is OK, as I beleive most people out there do not beleive it is OK.

So most guys don't feel sleeping with two girls is okay?
Or getting drunk?

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:28:57 AM EDT

[#11]

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So most guys don't feel sleeping with two girls is okay?
Or getting drunk?

I dont on that issue, as long as they are consenting adults, there on their free will, fine by me, heck if the guy can handle two woman at once, mor epower to him.

What I was referring to in your first post, was the crime and drug abuse issue, as well as the criminal sexual offenders.

As for getting drunk, have at it, I could careless, BUT if you drink and drive, and get cought, dont be bitching about it. And dont bring to the job site.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:32:05 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

Multiculturalism and atheism: The only thing taboo is to make something taboo.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:32:45 AM EDT

[#13]

Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:34:23 AM EDT

[#14]

Another example, look at the lesbian fantasy crap. How many ogle over that

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:34:54 AM EDT

[#15]

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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Sexual deviance is anything I don't want to do (or that my wife won't let me do) - therefore (in the proud tradition of grade school) nobody else should be allowed to do it either.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:36:22 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

Liberalism at its best.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:39:14 AM EDT

[#17]

I blame everyone, including myself, everyone has had their fair part in the decline of our culture in some form or another.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:41:45 AM EDT

[#18]

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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Sexual deviance is anything I don't want to do (or that my wife won't let me do) - therefore (in the proud tradition of grade school) nobody else should be allowed to do it either.

So sex with animals, Gay relations and so on should be accepted.

de.vi.ant

ADJECTIVE:
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

NOUN:
One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:49:09 AM EDT

[#19]

Should add that too many are no longer accountable for their own actions or lack-of anymore.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:53:07 AM EDT

[#20]

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Should add that too many are no longer accountable for their own actions or lack-of anymore.

I could throw in my observations on secular humanism, the Terror (French Revolution), and the millions slaughtered by godless communists in the past century, but most people don't want to hear that stuff.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:55:49 AM EDT

[#21]

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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Sexual deviance is anything I don't want to do (or that my wife won't let me do) - therefore (in the proud tradition of grade school) nobody else should be allowed to do it either.

So sex with animals, Gay relations and so on should be accepted.

If there is no harm, and it is consensual (by adults who are capable of giving consent), why is it your job to impose a moral judgment? Who elected you the moral compass of the United States?

de.vi.ant

ADJECTIVE:
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

NOUN:
One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.

Yes - I know what the word means. Thanks

Are you USING it in the context of purely being "different" or are you using it in the context of being "wrong" - there is a huge difference, since one is purely descriptive, and one carries an inherent moral judgment.

I have no problems with moral judgment. Is it how we make important decisions in our lives, about how we should behave. I do have a problem with people who want to impose their moral judgment on other peoples' behavior - and I am always curious about what QUALIFIES a particular person to be that moral arbiter.

Posted: 10/7/2005 11:56:59 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:
Should add that too many are no longer accountable for their own actions or lack-of anymore.

THAT is the problem with modern society, IMO.

The abandonment of individual responsiblity and accountability.

Posted: 10/7/2005 12:00:19 PM EDT

[#23]

If you didn't bring enough candy for everyone, then no one can have any.

Posted: 10/7/2005 12:01:00 PM EDT

[#24]

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I blame the advances in "saftey" that keep stupid people from dying.
I blame free medical care and welfare programs, alowing lower income groups to breed uncontrollably exponentialy increasing the lower income groups population, and keeping stupid people from dying.

Spot on assessment.

Posted: 10/7/2005 12:03:09 PM EDT

[#25]

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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Sexual deviance is anything I don't want to do (or that my wife won't let me do) - therefore (in the proud tradition of grade school) nobody else should be allowed to do it either.

So sex with animals, Gay relations and so on should be accepted.

de.vi.ant

ADJECTIVE:
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

NOUN:
One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.

Mentally handicapped people differ from the norm... What should we do with these deviants? Lock em up? Public hangings?

ETA: Oops made a typo. Can't let that slide.

Posted: 10/7/2005 12:11:18 PM EDT

[#26]

nothing new is under the sun....

Posted: 10/7/2005 12:27:59 PM EDT

[#27]

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ETA: Oops made a typo. Can't let that slide.

Off to the camps with you, deviant !!

Posted: 10/7/2005 2:43:31 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:
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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Sexual deviance is anything I don't want to do (or that my wife won't let me do) - therefore (in the proud tradition of grade school) nobody else should be allowed to do it either.

So sex with animals, Gay relations and so on should be accepted.

If there is no harm, and it is consensual (by adults who are capable of giving consent), why is it your job to impose a moral judgment? Who elected you the moral compass of the United States?

de.vi.ant

ADJECTIVE:
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

NOUN:
One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.

Yes - I know what the word means. Thanks

Are you USING it in the context of purely being "different" or are you using it in the context of being "wrong" - there is a huge difference, since one is purely descriptive, and one carries an inherent moral judgment.

I have no problems with moral judgment. Is it how we make important decisions in our lives, about how we should behave. I do have a problem with people who want to impose their moral judgment on other peoples' behavior - and I am always curious about what QUALIFIES a particular person to be that moral arbiter.

So this shit is perfectly FINE, I mean who am I to say what is morally correct for one and wrong for another. After all both parties agreed to it.

Posted: 10/7/2005 3:07:07 PM EDT

[#29]

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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Sexual deviance is anything I don't want to do (or that my wife won't let me do) - therefore (in the proud tradition of grade school) nobody else should be allowed to do it either.

So sex with animals, Gay relations and so on should be accepted.

If there is no harm, and it is consensual (by adults who are capable of giving consent), why is it your job to impose a moral judgment? Who elected you the moral compass of the United States?

de.vi.ant

ADJECTIVE:
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

NOUN:
One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.

Yes - I know what the word means. Thanks

Are you USING it in the context of purely being "different" or are you using it in the context of being "wrong" - there is a huge difference, since one is purely descriptive, and one carries an inherent moral judgment.

I have no problems with moral judgment. Is it how we make important decisions in our lives, about how we should behave. I do have a problem with people who want to impose their moral judgment on other peoples' behavior - and I am always curious about what QUALIFIES a particular person to be that moral arbiter.

So this shit is perfectly FINE, I mean who am I to say what is morally correct for one and wrong for another. After all both parties agreed to it.

Look at it like this, we need people to do dumb stuff like that, so we can laugh at them here on Arf.com....that and stuff like that makes ARDOCs night go by faster.

Posted: 10/7/2005 3:24:27 PM EDT

[#30]

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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Sexual deviance is anything I don't want to do (or that my wife won't let me do) - therefore (in the proud tradition of grade school) nobody else should be allowed to do it either.

So sex with animals, Gay relations and so on should be accepted.

If there is no harm, and it is consensual (by adults who are capable of giving consent), why is it your job to impose a moral judgment? Who elected you the moral compass of the United States?

de.vi.ant

ADJECTIVE:
Differing from a norm or from the accepted standards of a society.

NOUN:
One that differs from a norm, especially a person whose behavior and attitudes differ from accepted social standards.

Yes - I know what the word means. Thanks

Are you USING it in the context of purely being "different" or are you using it in the context of being "wrong" - there is a huge difference, since one is purely descriptive, and one carries an inherent moral judgment.

I have no problems with moral judgment. Is it how we make important decisions in our lives, about how we should behave. I do have a problem with people who want to impose their moral judgment on other peoples' behavior - and I am always curious about what QUALIFIES a particular person to be that moral arbiter.

So this shit is perfectly FINE, I mean who am I to say what is morally correct for one and wrong for another. After all both parties agreed to it.

I don't care

If someone wants to kill themselves in a ridiculous manner, so what? Get the crazy people out of the gene pool - what's the problem with that?

If cannibalism is illegal, then the other dude committed a crime, and it is a legal matter. But why do YOU care? How does what two crazy people do, that affects nobody else, have any bearing on you?

Suppose that two married people belong to some weird Heinlein-esque new-wave religion, and have mutually decided that if one of them dies first, the other one is going to eat part of their remains.

Where is the harm? Why do YOU care?

Are you worried that "kids" will read the newspaper and start killing and eating each other? Are you worried that tons of people are suddenly going to become cannibals?

OF COURSE those two guys are fucked up - everyone agrees with that.

The only question is whether it is somehow our responsiblity to tell people whether or not they are allowed to commit suicide, and what someone may or may not do with a corpse.

Posted: 10/7/2005 3:36:38 PM EDT

[#31]

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All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Divorce is simply filing of paper work

That one is HUGE. Most people on this board would be genuinely shocked by the attitude people have toward divorce and marriage, if they could talk to people who are getting divorced. Sometimes I just shake my head.

Posted: 10/7/2005 3:50:52 PM EDT

[#32]

IBBF (In before "Bush's Fault")

other than that, there are some great points being made here.

Posted: 10/7/2005 4:23:51 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

What taboos?

Basically everything you have mentioned was a normal practice in a lot of historical times. Drug use was basically noemal until the early 1900's, orgies and what you would term "deviant" sex have been the norm through many of the ages, and the list goes on and on.

So really you are deviant for thinking all of those things shouldn't be done.

Posted: 10/7/2005 4:24:06 PM EDT

[#34]

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All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Divorce is simply filing of paper work

That one is HUGE. Most people on this board would be genuinely shocked by the attitude people have toward divorce and marriage, if they could talk to people who are getting divorced. Sometimes I just shake my head.

A colleague of mine recently suggested to me that the (apparent) rise in serial killing - which is usually men killing women - has been associated with increasing rights for women, and "liberation"

The more liberated women are, and the more "equal" rights they have, the harder it is for losers to be able to get access to women. The argument is that few things are more dangerous and violent than frustrated men without access to women.

It's a bit of a stretch, but is consistent with some of the logic of evolutionary psychology. It's an interesting idea - that feminism and the increasing rights and equality of women is actually de-stabilizing society!

Posted: 10/7/2005 5:26:57 PM EDT

[#35]

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Yes, those things are bad but, the root problem is that there are simply to many people. We need to eliminate about 4 billion or so. Preferably not anyone I know or myself.

I'd agree... there's more TO it, IMo, but that's a biggie, I think.

Quoted:
Should add that too many are no longer accountable for their own actions or lack-of anymore.

That's a biggie.

Quoted:
So this shit is perfectly FINE, I mean who am I to say what is morally correct for one and wrong for another. After all both parties agreed to it.

No, because it's ABUSE OF A CORPSE, doen't matter if the person WANTED to die, it's STILL Abuse of a Corpse, and (I'm assuming in Germany) against the law, however had he consented to bein' the "catcher" - sex is NOT against the law (I think in Germany) so THAT would have been okay. Next!

Posted: 10/7/2005 5:42:56 PM EDT

[#36]

Our society has become desensitized to the of point acceptance. What I fear is what our future holds for our children. We will seem old fashioned and prudish to future generations. It's scary to think how far we've slid morally from even 50 years ago. We tolerate and in some instances encourage what our grandparents wouldn't even talk about.

Posted: 10/7/2005 5:52:07 PM EDT

[#37]

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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Oh please.... the only difference between Conservative and Liberal in respect to deviancy is ...oh wait there isn't a difference never mind

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:19:57 PM EDT

[#38]

Hypocrisy is the biggest problem in our times.........

Example.....homosexuality is evil and will cause the down fall of the nation. [unless it's two hot lesbians of course]

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:20:56 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

Sounds like a democratic party fundraiser

eta, beware of the atheists and gays Oly, they refuse to take any blame.

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:25:53 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:
Hypocrisy is the biggest problem in our times.........

Example.....homosexuality is evil and will cause the down fall of the nation. [unless it's two hot lesbians of course]

Cool, you got the memo

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:27:22 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:
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All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

Sounds like a democratic party fundraiser

eta, beware of the atheists and gays Oly, they refuse to take any blame.

and don't forget the half assed Christians either.....[that's not directed at you MrClean]

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:28:44 PM EDT

[#42]

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All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

Sounds like a democratic party fundraiser

eta, beware of the atheists and gays Oly, they refuse to take any blame.

and don't forget the half assed Christians either.....[that's not directed at you MrClean]

No worries friend, I'll still take you in a foxhole over most anyday when the bullets fly

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:29:26 PM EDT

[#43]

tag for later

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:29:52 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
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All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

Sounds like a democratic party fundraiser

eta, beware of the atheists and gays Oly, they refuse to take any blame.

and don't forget the half assed Christians either.....[that's not directed at you MrClean]

No worries friend, I'll still take you in the foxhole over most anyday

You'll take him in what hole now?

I'm sorry - I'm so juveline

Thank God it's the internet, or both of you would undoubtedly kick my ass.

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:36:20 PM EDT

[#45]

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You'll take him in what hole now?

I'm sorry - I'm so juveline Thank God it's the internet, or both of you would undoubtedly kick my ass.

I don't know DK-Prof........I havn't see any pics of MrClean.

But you on the other hand......look pretty hot in uniform.

edited because i've always wanted to use that smilie

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:36:40 PM EDT

[#46]

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All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug users have now become victims
Sex deviants are see as the norm
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
And so much more.

Sounds like a democratic party fundraiser

eta, beware of the atheists and gays Oly, they refuse to take any blame.

and don't forget the half assed Christians either.....[that's not directed at you MrClean]

No worries friend, I'll still take you in the foxhole over most anyday

You'll take him in what hole now?

I'm sorry - I'm so juveline Thank God it's the internet, or both of you would undoubtedly kick my ass.

One more comment like that and I'm taking the belt sander to your favorite shoes

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:37:18 PM EDT

[#47]

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You'll take him in what hole now?

I'm sorry - I'm so juveline Thank God it's the internet, or both of you would undoubtedly kick my ass.

I don't know DK-Prof........I havn't see any pics of MrClean.

But you on the other hand......look pretty hot in uniform

I look like a muscular James Gandalfini, if that helps any

Posted: 10/7/2005 6:38:27 PM EDT

[#48]

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All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug ~~users~~ addicts have now become victims

Actually, they were seen as that before the Harrison Narcotic Act. That made them criminals. NOW we're working our way back around to "victim." Drug users (and there's a helluva lot more of them than addicts) are seen by one group as criminals, and by themselves as victims of the overly self-righteous.

And I say that as somebody that doesn't even drink.

Sex deviants are see as the norm

The definition of "deviancy" has shifted, for sure. Oral sex was (and still is, in some locations) considered "sodomy," and was/is punishable by imprisonment. Then again, out-of-wedlock regular intercourse could get you jailed at one time. I'm libertarian enough not to give a shit what two-or-more consenting adults want to do, even if it involves wall-to-wall wax paper and a 500lb jar of Vaseline, but anything involving children ought to result in summary execution.

Divorce is simply filing of paper work

But then again, so is marriage. Getting married used to mean something, and involved actual commitment. Children cemented that commitment, even if the couple ended up hating each other. Now they use the kids as weapons against each other. Very sad.

Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.

See: Prohibition. Al Capone, et al.

Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized

See above.

And so much more.

The more things change....

Posted: 10/7/2005 7:31:22 PM EDT

[#49]

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Sexual Deviants would apply to those having more than one partner.

And in no way shape or form is it a "Conservative" thing to engage in.

Oh please.... the only difference between Conservative and Liberal in respect to deviancy is ...oh wait there isn't a difference never mind

Uh... no offense, Stoner, (or really ANYONE else on the board who IS A conservative...) but the FREAKIEST FREAKS I know call themselves "conservative" they VOTE that way they BEHAVE (except in private) that way, they are "straight Republican ticket" voters! But then the str8est st8s are also "conservative"... so.... but I know NO greater freaks than (some) "conservatives"... and _I_ thought LIBERALS were freaks! They don't have SHIT on many conservatives. I mean... some FREAKY shit! Makes the BDSM crowd look TAME kinda shit.... I just can't believe you actually SAID that..... no difference my ass they're MORE deviant - they just HIDE it better!!!

(No difference... damn freaky shit I'm tellin' ya weird assed TRUELY deviant stuff...what the..grumble... grumble)

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All these taboos are no longer taboos but simply accepted.

Drug ~~users~~ addicts have now become victims
Actually, they were seen as that before the Harrison Narcotic Act. That made them criminals. NOW we're working our way back around to "victim." Drug users (and there's a helluva lot more of them than addicts) are seen by one group as criminals, and by themselves as victims of the overly self-righteous.

And I say that as somebody that doesn't even drink.
Sex deviants are see as the norm
The definition of "deviancy" has shifted, for sure. Oral sex was (and still is, in some locations) considered "sodomy," and was/is punishable by imprisonment. Then again, out-of-wedlock regular intercourse could get you jailed at one time. I'm libertarian enough not to give a shit what two-or-more consenting adults want to do, even if it involves wall-to-wall wax paper and a 500lb jar of Vaseline, but anything involving children ought to result in summary execution.
Divorce is simply filing of paper work
But then again, so is marriage. Getting married used to mean something, and involved actual commitment. Children cemented that commitment, even if the couple ended up hating each other. Now they use the kids as weapons against each other. Very sad.
Criminal life is a fantasy of many due to the popularity of rap.
See: Prohibition. Al Capone, et al.
Hard work has been replaced by fast times fast money and idolized
See above.
And so much more.
The more things change....

Posted: 10/7/2005 7:40:33 PM EDT

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You'll take him in what hole now?

I'm sorry - I'm so juveline Thank God it's the internet, or both of you would undoubtedly kick my ass.

I don't know DK-Prof........I havn't see any pics of MrClean.

But you on the other hand......look pretty hot in uniform.

edited because i've always wanted to use that smilie

Thank you. Those were the days - back when I was young and handsome, and had a spiffy uniform!

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