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Posted: 4/21/2017 3:26:55 PM EDT
...and human activities are mostly to blame.
True, or false? ETA: Sorry for the question mark in my poll question. I had one job and failed... |
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The average temperature has not been measured consistently at any time. No reliable trending can be established.
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...and human activities are mostly to blame. True, or false? View Quote Two statements in one question with different answers. |
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I honestly have no fucking clue. The topic is so politicized that no one is impartial, and even if someone still were, we'd have no way to know.
The best thing we can do is to kick China's balls until they stop belching massive amounts of pollution. |
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Average temp is trending upwards, but not just because of humans. Many other factors contribute, humans have just made it trend upwards at a higher rate than it would have otherwise.
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Re-covering Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, etc with glaciers would be an improvement
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Of course we are responsible.... the thing is, I dont fucking care. The sooner the right can just come to terms with it and say we dont fucking care the sooner we can profit from it.
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...and human activities are mostly to blame. True, or false? ETA: Sorry for the question mark in my poll question. I had one job and failed... View Quote Fascinating. So is the average temperature on Mars. Must be something to do with that big yellar thing both Earth and Mars orbit around. |
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There are sea creature fossils in the deserts, b/c at some point hundreds of millions of years ago in earth's history, there was global warming, the polar caps melted, and the oceans rose. But of course it was the fault of George Bush, big oil, and SUVs back then, too.
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Why have we been warming for thousands of years. 3 thousand year old cities under water, maybe they just had really large camp fires.
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I don't think humans are the cause of it, sure pollution may not be helping anything, it certainly fucks things up but I do not think humans are the cause of the climate changing.
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There are sea creature fossils in the deserts, b/c at some point hundreds of millions of years ago in earth's history, there was global warming, the polar caps melted, and the oceans rose. But of course it was the fault of George Bush, big oil, and SUVs back then, too. View Quote |
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Were humans the cause of the Medieval warming? I think other factors are much more important.
Medieval Warming |
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Were humans the cause of the Medieval warming? I think other factors are much more important. Medieval Warming View Quote |
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Short answer: Yes, the Earth is warming and we're at least partially to blame for it. This is high school level science when it comes to understanding the GHG effect.
Long answer: We don't know exactly how much of the recent warming we're to blame for, and we don't know what a proper response is. Too little and it just harms us economically without doing shit to stop the warming. Too much and we completely cripple our economy/standard of living. We also need to make sure other countries like CHINA/RUSSIA/INDIA/ETC are contributing and not leaving everyone else to foot the bill for climate change mitigation. Honestly I hope I'm wrong on this issue. If I'm right, the children of the future are gonna get a hella fucked up world to live in. |
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Unless the answer to both is yes, the answer would be no. Clearly you have questions like this in England... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/01/20/massive-tampering-with-temperatures-in-south-america/ Are we going off the raw or adjusted data? Because the average temperature of the Earth might not be trending upwards at all. |
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The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is increasing due to human activity.
CO2 is a "greenhouse gas," although not a remarkably potent one as compared to others. Other factors are in play, such as solar cycles and orbital patterns. None of this suddenly makes socialism a good idea. |
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Poll fail And either way it doesn't matter because man has nothing to do with this.
ETA: Unless you're a white young adult male. Then yes. |
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The numbers have been fudged so many times by so many "scientists", that it's impossible to reach any meaningful conclusions from the cooked data.
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as far as global warming goes.... frankly we dont know shit about shit
we have theories and people who are more vocal about their theory than others are we harming the earth? sure but the earth goes through warming and cooling trends constantly... year to year century to century.... etc. etc. etc. we have educated guesses but we are barely scratching the surface of this tiny rock circling a star surrounded by millions of other stars |
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2015/01/20/massive-tampering-with-temperatures-in-south-america/ https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/marisgif_thumb.gif?w=500&h=338 Are we going off the raw or adjusted data? Because the average temperature of the Earth might not be trending upwards at all. View Quote Where is the start point? Clearly it is trending upwards if the start point is say.....12,000 years ago. The sun is increasing in heat and brightness as time goes on too. |
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Major Don West: "Every schoolchild knows our recycling technologies will save the environment."
Professor John Robinson: Every schoolchild has been lied to. Just like in that fictional movie, in reality, we are being lied to. The Earth has been warmer than colder for much of the history of life on this planet. Often, the Earth has been much warmer. . . . Mega flora, Mega fauna, and giants walked the Earth. . . . Personally, I like a warm Earth. The "Little Ice Age" was hell on everybody. Starvation. Mass migrations. Read about the winter of 1887-1888, a notably frigid and stormy season, the last in a series of consecutive and devastating Upper Midwest winters, a series which has since been labeled “The Little Ice Age of the 1880's”. This was a climatological interlude that made brutal winters occur with disconcerting frequency in the Upper Midwest. Also note the fact that the winter of 1887-88, although it marked the end of the Little Ice Age, was not, however, followed by an unbroken series of warm winters. Since that fateful winter, the area continued to experience intermittent episodes of severe winter weather, one of the worst of which was the winter of 1935-1936... You should be made aware that the Mississippi River was known to freeze over solid during the brutal winters of the 19th century. It is a historical fact that taverns would set up shop on the frozen Mississippi River to cater to teamsters hauling across the river. Bad winters did continue to the year 1936. In my family's personal history, my Father reports that as a child, he and my Grandfather walked across the frozen Mississippi in '36, from South St. Louis to the Illinois shore. Damn cold. In the years since 1936, the Mississippi has not been hard frozen over as far south as St. Louis. It is getting warmer, thank god, because as I said, the Earth has been too cold for too long and I for one, welcome a warmer climate! |
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I don't know about "mostly." I haven't really read anything that broke global warming down to the percentages of contributing factors.
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Where is the start point? Clearly it is trending upwards if the start point is say.....12,000 years ago. The sun is increasing in heat and brightness as time goes on too. View Quote We're on a downward trend if we go back far enough. IIRC we're also still in a solar minimum, so we're looking and reduced temps for a while. Of course, with the politics that have infected climate science, we don't really have a clue. The sky has been falling since the world was going to freeze in the 1970s to when we were all going to be dead from heat by 2015 and of course there were going to be massive overpopulation and 10 billion people on earth in 2010. |
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Where is the start point? Clearly it is trending upwards if the start point is say.....12,000 years ago. The sun is increasing in heat and brightness as time goes on too. View Quote |
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Start point is wherever is convenient for the AGW crowd. We're on a downward trend if we go back far enough. IIRC we're also still in a solar minimum, so we're looking and reduced temps for a while. Of course, with the politics that have infected climate science, we don't really have a clue. The sky has been falling since the world was going to freeze in the 1970s to when we were all going to be dead from heat by 2015 and of course there were going to be massive overpopulation and 10 billion people on earth in 2010. View Quote Exactly. They will just make the start point whatever unusual low they find to fabricate some data to suit their narrative. The Earth's climate has seen some pretty hard core extremes throughout the Phanerozoic Eon alone. A 10-year snapshot is nothing. It would be like monitoring someone's heart rate for 3 seconds of their 95 year old life and making a guess as to what it was on average. |
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