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Posted: 2/11/2006 1:21:49 PM EDT
I've seen some Dems pop up with this lately. Basically, to me, they are saying that we should live in some utopian society where everyone agrees all the time ala' the demolition man. Now you know and I know that all this is B.S. and if it ever happened like that we'd all want to be Dennis Leary (the horror).
Simple fact of life is that with free speach comes the reality that someone is going to say something that offends you. Again, totally logical. But that's just my opinion. So does anyone here believe that we have the "right to not be offended"?
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:24:03 PM EDT
You're right not to be offended ends the moment you set foot out the door, turn on the television, or do anything else that requires interaction with the thoughts, works, or behavior of other people.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:27:54 PM EDT
Thats pretty much my take on it.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:31:00 PM EDT
I hate posts like these. They offend me big time.


Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:31:06 PM EDT
Some conservatives fall victim to this trap as well, but it comes in a non verbal form. The government is frequently called upon to curb sights, sounds and smells that some conservatives find offensive. This includes, but is not limited to, provacative anti-war displays, offensive tatoos, loud vehicles and cigarette smoke. All sorts of reasons are given to justify the call to legislation, but "it offends me" is at the core of it all.

Most people are terrified of true freedom and liberty, and that includes a great many conservatives. More often than not, liberty is simply a matter of degree.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:31:17 PM EDT
People choose to be offended. They want to be offended. If this were not true, nobody would ever be offended. Some people are actually offended by porn. They choose to be offended by it, and not being offended by it is a simple matter of tolerating it/ignoring it, which you choose whether you do or not.

You do not have the right not to be offended, but you have the right to choose not to be offended.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:36:29 PM EDT
I get offended when my wife won't give me any.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:42:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By centralvahunter:
I get offended when my wife won't give me any.

I get offended when your wife won't give me any.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:47:41 PM EDT
I voted choice #2.
People need to lighten the fuck up. If you don't like cigarette smoke, don't go to places where you will be around it. If you don't like Tattoos or loud cars, go where there arent any.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 1:48:07 PM EDT
The question should be, if I am offended, is there any measurable damage that can be observed by people not involved in the incident or is it a matter of just having my feelings hurt? We have tons of money paying out to people who just had their ego popped or their comfort zone rattled but they didn't suffer any.
As the poll stands now, I can't really answer any of the choices...
The idea that hurting someone is fun is helping to destroy respect for all people...
It seems to be stretching it to suggest the Founding Fathers had diliberate offenses protected...
We already have examples of homosexuals protected when they masterbated on an alter in a church but the preacher is silenced if he wants to call it sin...That type of free speech(expression) is the liberal interpretation at best.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:12:54 PM EDT
I can see the utility of some measure of political correctness in a professional environment. If someone is constantly being hrrassed in a their workplace it can affect their productivity, and make life pretty bad for them. Also, if you are providing a service for the public, like healthcare, you shouldn't have to tolerate offensive speech while you are getting you arm sewn back on. I could see how a manager would expect some PCness from employees to make a company more attractive to the broadest number of clients. If you are an offensive ass, you aren't going to sell anything to those who are easily offended. Political and personal bias shouldn't be a factor in a professional setting. It doesn't belong.

That said, it can be taken waaaayyy too far. Charging someone with a hate crime for being un PC is ridiculous.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:25:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/11/2006 2:26:47 PM EDT by limaxray]
"The right to not be offended" has at it's roots the idea of self-esteem and "me-firstism".

Basically, it's saying that I'm the most important person in the world, and YOU have to make sure that I have MY way. And if I get offended, you're the one that's got to change or leave, rather than me, because I'm worth more than you.

Screw that.

ETA: Notice, though, how hypocritical the libs are about this (as usual). On the one hand, they are offended all the time and expect you to cater to their sensibilities, but when a conservative says "the stuff on TV offends me," their answer is "well, change the channel."

Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:27:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Dusty_C:
I've seen some Dems pop up with this lately. Basically, to me, they are saying that we should live in some utopian society where everyone agrees all the time ala' the demolition man. Now you know and I know that all this is B.S. and if it ever happened like that we'd all want to be Dennis Leary (the horror).
Simple fact of life is that with free speach comes the reality that someone is going to say something that offends you. Again, totally logical. But that's just my opinion. So does anyone here believe that we have the "right to not be offended"?



I posess no such right.

People are free to say things that I find offensive.

Just as I am free to say things in rebuttal that they might find offensive.

That's what freedom is.

So long as men govern us, I wouldn't have it any other way.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:28:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
I hate posts like these. They offend me big time.





I am offended by your offense, thus I demand that you stop being offended!!
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:32:52 PM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:

Originally Posted By JustinOK34:
I hate posts like these. They offend me big time.





I am offended by your offense, thus I demand that you stop being offended!!



You first!
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:34:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TravisM1:
I voted choice #2.
People need to lighten the fuck up. If you don't like cigarette smoke, don't go to places where you will be around it. If you don't like Tattoos or loud cars, go where there arent any.



To be fair, cigarette smoke IS a harmful substance. Add that I'm severely allergic to it and have bad asthma all day (and usually the next) from just a whiff of it, and I avoid having anything to do with people smoking or who have recently smoked. I still can't avoid it because all the self-destructive idiots cluster around doorways I have to walk through in order to go anywhere, do it in the break rooms, restrooms, etc. so I have to put up with it no matter where I go.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:45:58 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:
Some conservatives fall victim to this trap as well, but it comes in a non verbal form. The government is frequently called upon to curb sights, sounds and smells that some conservatives find offensive. This includes, but is not limited to, provacative anti-war displays, offensive tatoos, loud vehicles and cigarette smoke. All sorts of reasons are given to justify the call to legislation, but "it offends me" is at the core of it all.

Most people are terrified of true freedom and liberty, and that includes a great many conservatives. More often than not, liberty is simply a matter of degree.



Well said.
Well...I wasn't offended by any of it so I think it's well said.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:47:08 PM EDT
Dusty didn't you start this thread bacause you were offended?


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Not flamin ya buddy. But that is ironic.......
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:51:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Swindle1984:

Originally Posted By TravisM1:
I voted choice #2.
People need to lighten the fuck up. If you don't like cigarette smoke, don't go to places where you will be around it. If you don't like Tattoos or loud cars, go where there arent any.



To be fair, cigarette smoke IS a harmful substance. Add that I'm severely allergic to it and have bad asthma all day (and usually the next) from just a whiff of it, and I avoid having anything to do with people smoking or who have recently smoked. I still can't avoid it because all the self-destructive idiots cluster around doorways I have to walk through in order to go anywhere, do it in the break rooms, restrooms, etc. so I have to put up with it no matter where I go.

Actually the newest studies have concluded that a person of normal health will suffer absolutely NO ill side effects long term or short from being around second hand smoke. Watch the Penn and Teller show "bullshit" on the subject, they provide references for all their statements. @nd hand smoke is not dangerous at all (again assuming no illnesses)
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:53:00 PM EDT

Originally Posted By krpind:
Dusty didn't you start this thread bacause you were offended?


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Not flamin ya buddy. But that is ironic.......

haha no. I only get offended by people saying we deserved 9/11. I'm actually rather obsessed with that subject.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 2:53:09 PM EDT
I would find the right of others not to be offended offensive.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 3:01:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SubnetMask:
Some conservatives fall victim to this trap as well, but it comes in a non verbal form. The government is frequently called upon to curb sights, sounds and smells that some conservatives find offensive. This includes, but is not limited to, provacative anti-war displays, offensive tatoos, loud vehicles and cigarette smoke. All sorts of reasons are given to justify the call to legislation, but "it offends me" is at the core of it all.

Most people are terrified of true freedom and liberty, and that includes a great many conservatives. More often than not, liberty is simply a matter of degree.



I don't think you understand this. You are confusing freedom from government tyranny (true freedom) with anarchy which is actually rule by the most offensive or strongest. True freedom and liberty in the sense that the founders meant it can only exist with a population that will govern themselves and be courteous to their fellow citizens. When that quality is lost in the citizenry, government WILL take control or civilization will cease.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 3:08:28 PM EDT
I bet that this poll would turn out the same way if it was posted in DU.

Assumptions bout whole groups of people is how we get in trouble with each other.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 3:39:06 PM EDT
I'm offended by the very people that I offend...

I guess we will have to call it a draw and find something else to do.


GM
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 5:15:30 PM EDT
Democrats seem to be pretty good at pretending to be offended. Look at Teddy K. Last week he was offended about kids getting asthma. And it was all the SCOTUS nominee's fault somehow... I could not understand the connection.

Just listening to that pompous ass (Ted) speak in the Senate offends me.
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