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Posted: 12/23/2003 12:59:13 AM EDT
fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html

Too long to post but a good read and scary as hell.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 1:01:59 AM EDT
Fear the Arkansas Mafia.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 1:11:16 AM EDT
So isn't Walmart just like Microsoft? Is the government going to put a stop to this?
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 1:13:12 AM EDT
You know its a sad day when I go to Wal-MArt to buy a new American flag for my front yard and all the flags they had there (al least in the size I needed) were made in fucking China!
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 1:45:41 AM EDT
I shop there as little as possible, but there is practically nowhere else to go in my small town. Publix for groceries, local merchants for a few gifts and whatever else I am looking for.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 2:10:00 AM EDT
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I never shop at wal-mart. I shop and support the local Ace hardware, ind. grocery store and clothing shop down the street. I might pay a few cents more for a lightbulb, but I'm not a cheap prick, I dont mind. Once in a while I get film developed there if I need it the next day, since they do it 24hrs. Fuck Wal-Mart, I think they are the reason most, errr sorry, all of the labor jobs are moving out of country.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 2:30:56 AM EDT
"Are you meshuga? Why in the world would we talk about Wal-Mart? Ask me about anything else, we'll talk. But not Wal-Mart."
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Ya Putz!
Sales for Levi peaked in 1996 at $7.1 billion. By last year, they had spiraled down six years in a row, to $4.1 billion; through the first six months of 2003, sales dropped another 3%. This one account--selling jeans to Wal-Mart--could almost instantly revive Levi.
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Interestingly, Levis problems began about the same time the boycott from most of us gun folks started. You gotta love it. Maybe if these companies would stick to making shit, and staying out of politics, they wouldn't lose customers. Now I understand why toothpaste companies keep changing their toothpaste - it seems to be the only way they can keep their margins with Wal-Mart!
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 3:55:09 AM EDT
Walmart stock has been very, very good to me. I wouldn't be caught dead in one of their PWT hangouts, but I like their stock performance.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 4:17:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By hielo: Walmart stock has been very, very good to me. I wouldn't be caught dead in one of their PWT hangouts, but I like their stock performance.
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Stock is good because they are increasing profits! Profits increasing becasue Wal-Mart is the king of cheap goods. Only way to stop them is to not buy their cheap Chinese stuff. Go ahead, tell Joe and Jane American that they have to spend more so that the Chinese aren't getting fat and happy off of us. See what kind of response you get. Face it, there are many reasons that jobs have left the US. One of them is the price of finished goods. It can be made in China for 1/4 the cost and sold here half price. Think of some of the people you know who are trying ot make ends meet. Are they going to try to pay more for what they need/want when they can have it for less. Some people don't go there for this reason, but many others are too busy trying to see who is going to win Survivor to pay too much attention to where their goods are made. I worked retail for several years. One day a gentleman came in and wanted to buy a keyboard for his computer. He firmly stated that he wanted to buy an American made keyboard. Problem was that none were made in the US. Our store was filled with Tiawanese, Mexican, and Chinese keyboards. The gentleman left disgusted. I don't know if he ever did find his keyboard. By the way, this is a Wal-Mart free Christmas for me. Sorry Hielo
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 4:42:21 AM EDT
This is the key to the whole frickin' thing: Ever-cheaper prices have consequences. Says Steve Dobbins, president of thread maker Carolina Mills: "We want clean air, clear water, good living conditions, the best health care in the world--yet we aren't willing to pay for anything manufactured under those restrictions." The damn hippies and labor unions have forced so many restrictions on producers in this country that it has become very hard to produce anything and make a profit, or break even. Make it easier to produce in this country with less restrictions and you will see jobs come back.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 4:56:23 AM EDT
There's a reason that I quit shopping there this year. Call it the resurrection of a long-dead "social conscience," call it disgust... But we've got to start buying American and supporting our fellow Americans NOW before it's too late. Mike
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:01:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By POWER03: This is the key to the whole frickin' thing: Ever-cheaper prices have consequences. Says Steve Dobbins, president of thread maker Carolina Mills: "We want clean air, clear water, good living conditions, the best health care in the world--yet we aren't willing to pay for anything manufactured under those restrictions." The damn hippies and labor unions have forced so many restrictions on producers in this country that it has become very hard to produce anything and make a profit, or break even. Make it easier to produce in this country with less restrictions and you will see jobs come back.
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Where's mattja to tell you how terribly, terribly wrong you are? The only problem is that of wages. I've been sparring with him for months about this [;)]
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:20:57 AM EDT
Unions suck. Plain and simple. Nothing to spar over. Anyone who wants to push the benefits of a union, is in all liklyhood happy with someones finger on the trigger to someone elses head. Parasites are parasites.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:40:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SUPERSPORT: So isn't Walmart just like Microsoft? [red]Is the government going to put a stop to this?[/red]
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Am I the only one that gets chills when reading this? Why is this a problem for the [u]government[/u] to solve? Do you think that the government is [b]good[/b] at solving problems? Do you really think that the government ought to be [u]more[/u] involved in solving our problems?
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:42:20 AM EDT
Am I the only one that gets chills when reading this?
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Yes, because his comment was just sarcasm.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:46:39 AM EDT
OP, I think (HOPE) he was being sarcastic... As for the article......it's Capitalism. What do you expect? Why NOT pay for a gallon of pickles in one place what another charges for a quart?
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:51:42 AM EDT
My wife and I are lucky, we live in Houston, so there are plenty of alternatives to Wal-Mart. I do not shop there mostly because most of what they sell is shit, plain and simple. I took a stroll through the grocery aisle once, what a sad lot of produce and meat. The clothing and electronics are the cheapest of the cheap, complete shit and not to mention the place usually smells like piss. Forget it, I shop at more respectable retailers and try to buy american, but that is hard these days.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:56:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zaphod: OP, I think (HOPE) he was being sarcastic... As for the article......it's Capitalism. What do you expect? Why NOT pay for a gallon of pickles in one place what another charges for a quart?
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If it was sarcasm, I missed it. This story isn't really about capitalism, it is about greed. Take the pickle manufacturer, for example. They knew what they were getting into. If you make deals with a huge concern like Walmart and they become your biggest customer, and they now are 80% of your business, and you know that they demand lower prices from their suppliers, etc, etc, etc. Why didn't Vlasic just say, "No thanks, Walmart. We will just continue to sell to grocery stores like always." Instead, they were [u]greedy[/u]. They wanted to make more and more money. No one holds a gun to a supplier's head and makes them sign contracts with Walmart. Those that do so are driven by greed. And they get what they ask for.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 5:56:20 AM EDT
The only thing I buy at wally world is ammo. and even than I only buy 9mm, .40 .22 and my 30-06 hunting loads. All my 5.56 and 308 ammo and the 30-06 match ammo is bought from other places.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:04:27 AM EDT
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It's even worse with Home Depot. More often than not, when you see a new brand at Home Depot, like McCullough, Lawn Boy, Snapper etc. the company will be in bankrupcy in a year or two. Walmart has ruined the way society shops, it's all about lowest price, disposable products. Though some consumers are learning that if they have problems and need service or parts, their isn't any. They just have buy another new product. You can judge product quality (low) when you see an item show up in a surplus catalog or Harbor Freight as factory reconditioned. FWIW I shop at Target and have stock in the company, their stores are clean, have good customer service and whole lot less obease shoppers riding in a motor chair looking for that Walmart size bag of pork rinds & 99 cent jumbo box of Little Debbies. Walmart to me is like shopping in a cattle yard, the place is a mess. In fact, just the other week, the wife & I, while visitiing, took her grandmother to Walmart and the entrance to the store was a PIG STYE, the lazy asses "greeting" people, (standing there BS'ing among themselves) were too friggin sorry to pick up a broom (really needed a yard rake) and sweep the filty entrance inside the store. I said something out loud hopeing they would hear me too. How about them Walmart bathrooms? Look like animals share them with people. I hate Walmart, I really, really do. The newer stores might be better but the established stores are dumps. Sorry about the rant.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:05:36 AM EDT
It is quite easy to fix this. Simply stop shopping there. I don't. I'd rather have just a tiny bit less stuff and shop in a place I like. I hate the place for a lot of reasons, and this was not on the list. I guarantee that is 25% of the people spending their hard earned green there suddenly picked a new place to spend it that Wal Mart would change its ways fast.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:06:50 AM EDT
I think my position on Wal-Mart has been stated here before, so I won't bore you with it again. I looked at the linked article, but had a hard time getting past this:
Edward Fox, head of Southern Methodist University's [red]J.C. Penney Center for Retailing Excellence[/red]
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[rofl] That's kind of like the Hi-Point Center for Marksmanship Excellence, or the Radio Flyer Center for Vehicle Suspension Excellence, or the Ozzy Osbourne Center for Excellence in Diction, isn't it?
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:08:47 AM EDT
That's kind of like the Hi-Point Center for Marksmanship Excellence, or the Radio Flyer Center for Vehicle Suspension Excellence, or the Ozzy Osbourne Center for Excellence in Diction, isn't it?
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I'm a graduate and fellow of all of those places and let me say, they're all "excellent."
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:09:45 AM EDT
The only reason I've been to wallyworld in the last 5 years is because a significant other dragged me there. I refuse to go 99% of the time because it seems to me that the only reason they exist is to piss me off. I'll gladly pay .05 more to go to a place that doesn't suck. I won't even buy cheap ammo there anymore because it takes a frikkin hour to get some teenage fucknut there to ask me questions about what I'm shooting it thru and escort me out. FUCK WAL-MART!
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:09:57 AM EDT
You know sales work two ways, there is the buyer and the seller and neither have a obligation to do business with each other. The article read like it wanted me to feel sorry for Walmarts suppliers. Why? Because they are idiots? The company I'm dealing with now wanted to give me an account that I didn't deam a good customer so I said no and told them they didn't fit my profile as a good customer. Three months later, they are now telling me I was right as they have shipped thousands in goods and not received a dime in return. Fact is you can find many of the same goods at Walmart you find anywhere else. The simple fact is Walmart is doing to the retail manufacturers just what the Big Three automakers have done to their suppliers which is give the supplier so much volume he can't live without it then milk them till they die. Part of that death is labor reduction and yes that includes China and Mexico. The end result will still be the same. No the government won't step in for the statistical result is lower inflation. There is a major flaw in American business and it's we don't think any further than the length of our peckers. Our business in general is like a pyramid scheme based on the premise that will result in your business partners failing knowing full well another dumbass will step right up to fail too. Short term profit taking is the root and long term unemployment will be the net result. The days of Herny Ford's idea of create a customer base for your products are dead. Business will now ride their profits till the customers are dead. I know this is an ominous prediction and will take a long time to happen but I honestly believe our economy can not survive purely as a service economy for Switzerland we are not. We are too large with too many people. The 20th century will be known as the rise of the American industrial might and the 21st century will be known for it's demise. Tj
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:14:30 AM EDT
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[blue][size=3]Dell is just as bad to it's suppliers. I don't shop at Walmart, Target or Kmart. I don't like the shitty quality, poor selection, poor service, or meat-market atmosphere.[/blue][/size=3]
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:21:08 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:21:20 AM EDT
I'm no fan of Wal-Fart, but sometimes I just wonder. My oldest daughter has a sensitivity to milk and about the only ones she can safely digest are soy milk (which tastes like shit) and goat's milk. The only stores in my immediate community that carry goat's milk are Albertson's and Wal-Fart Neighborhood Market (other stores sometimes carry it, but not consistently). At any rate, I went to pick up some at Albertson's about a year ago and it was all EXPIRED (by one day). I went and hit up the manager who, more or less, told me "sorry." Since it's for my daughter, I can't very well tell her to tough it out. I can either call all over and drive all over Oklahoma City for a couple of quarts of this goat's milk, or I can just go over to Wal-Fart and buy some fresh stuff with a two-week due date.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:23:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Jim_Dandy:
That's kind of like the Hi-Point Center for Marksmanship Excellence, or the Radio Flyer Center for Vehicle Suspension Excellence, or the Ozzy Osbourne Center for Excellence in Diction, isn't it?
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I'm a graduate and fellow of all of those places and let me say, they're all "excellent."
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Of course! It says so right in the name!
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:24:43 AM EDT
I live in a small town dominated by Wal-Mart and Kmart. I generally stay out of Wal-Mart if possible. Sometimes it is not possible. Because Wal-Mart still sells handgun ammo and OTOH Kmart folded to Michael Moore and his bullshit, I am forced to Wal-Mart because Kmart sucks and I will never set foot in there again.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:28:45 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chairborne_Ranger: I live in a small town dominated by Wal-Mart and Kmart. I generally stay out of Wal-Mart if possible. Sometimes it is not possible. Because Wal-Mart still sells handgun ammo and OTOH Kmart folded to Michael Moore and his bullshit, I am forced to Wal-Mart because Kmart sucks and I will never set foot in there again.
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WTF? You [i]HAVE[/i] to shop at Wally World? Have you heard about [url]www.ammoman.com[/url]?? Ammunition - delivered to your door. Or hey, how about helping out your local gun shop or even a sporting goods store instead?
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:30:34 AM EDT
Any supplier stupid enough to do business with Wal Mart gets what they deserve. They know that they are just chasing the almighty god of VOLUME. "Hey, we'll spread the overhead over a greater volume."
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:31:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By photoman: The only thing I buy at wally world is ammo. and even than I only buy 9mm, .40 .22 and my 30-06 hunting loads. All my 5.56 and 308 ammo and the 30-06 match ammo is bought from other places.
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Why?
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:36:27 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Originally Posted By Chairborne_Ranger: I live in a small town dominated by Wal-Mart and Kmart. I generally stay out of Wal-Mart if possible. Sometimes it is not possible. Because Wal-Mart still sells handgun ammo and OTOH Kmart folded to Michael Moore and his bullshit, I am forced to Wal-Mart because Kmart sucks and I will never set foot in there again.
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WTF? You [i]HAVE[/i] to shop at Wally World? Have you heard about [url]www.ammoman.com[/url]?? Ammunition - delivered to your door. Or hey, how about helping out your local gun shop or even a sporting goods store instead?
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I don't buy ammo at Wal-Mart. And I dropped over $1K with ammoman just two weeks ago. I just don't shop at Kmart ever because of the ammo thing as a matter of principle.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:37:46 AM EDT
As for ammo, I found that the prices at Sports Authority are comparable (if you happen to have one nearby).
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:42:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Chairborne_Ranger:
Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Originally Posted By Chairborne_Ranger: I live in a small town dominated by Wal-Mart and Kmart. I generally stay out of Wal-Mart if possible. Sometimes it is not possible. Because Wal-Mart still sells handgun ammo and OTOH Kmart folded to Michael Moore and his bullshit, I am forced to Wal-Mart because Kmart sucks and I will never set foot in there again.
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I don't buy ammo at Wal-Mart. And I dropped over $1K with ammoman just two weeks ago. I just don't shop at Kmart ever because of the ammo thing as a matter of principle.
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I don't understand - you stated that you are "forced to Wal-Mart" and talked about ammo being only available at Wal-Mart. If you aren't buying there, very good. Sorry if I came down too hard.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:43:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Old_Painless: This story isn't really about capitalism, it is about greed. Take the pickle manufacturer, for example. They knew what they were getting into. If you make deals with a huge concern like Walmart and they become your biggest customer, and they now are 80% of your business, and you know that they demand lower prices from their suppliers, etc, etc, etc. Why didn't Vlasic just say, "No thanks, Walmart. We will just continue to sell to grocery stores like always." Instead, they were [u]greedy[/u]. They wanted to make more and more money. No one holds a gun to a supplier's head and makes them sign contracts with Walmart. Those that do so are driven by greed. And they get what they ask for.
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We're in an apparent disagreement over semantics. Let's be honest: That which runs Capitalism IS greed. Some greed is good, as it provides the drive to better oneself and one's circumstances. As with all things, however, greed in excess is destructive, so you're right, Vlasik has only itself to blame if the business deal it thought would be good for it has instead hurt it. What I have issues with is the undercurrent that somehow holds consumers as being less than patriotic or otherwise simply because they are trying to get the most bang for their buck. The bottom line is that the economic landscape constantly changes. In today's world the biggest change is the availability of cheap labor overseas. While it certainly sucks if you are a shitty-widget manufacturer here in the USA, it doesn't change the fact that the American consumer benefits when prices go down. Remember that Smith-Corona had a cow when PC's came out. For those to young to remember, they were the world's premier typewriter company.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:47:18 AM EDT
I'll make no apologies for shopping at Walmart. I have a young family with five small children and one-stop-shopping is the only tolerable way to take the whole family shopping at this time in my life. I like local retailers too, and support them often. Have only bought one .22 rifle from Wallyworld. The rest were bought from the locals. But if I find the right item at the right price at Walmart, then I will buy it there. I lament that jobs are being lost in the US and that so much of our consumption is products being made in China and elsewhere. However... the issue is a large and tangled net that in NO way begins and ends soley at Walmart. We all do what we are able to do to do both what's good for us and good for others. But don't kid yourself that because you drive past Walmart that you are somehow BETTER than all of the "ignorant white trash" that parks their cars there. Take a look at where your car, your computer, your TV, your stereo, your phone, your microwave, your DVD player, your shoes, your clothes, your kids' toys, etc are made. I'd bet that something you own was made somewhere other than the USA, unless you are rich and have the time to check all of this out before you buy anything. Life is a pretty complicated ball of wax in the 21st Century. Many times we walk the "high road" and count ourselves a notch above the masses, all the while failing to see that many times the path we are taking is leading us to THE SAME place that the ever-present "THEY" (or THEM) are headed. What was that Christ said about casting the first stone?
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:48:55 AM EDT
Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Originally Posted By Chairborne_Ranger:
Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
Originally Posted By Chairborne_Ranger: I live in a small town dominated by Wal-Mart and Kmart. I generally stay out of Wal-Mart if possible. Sometimes it is not possible. Because Wal-Mart still sells handgun ammo and OTOH Kmart folded to Michael Moore and his bullshit, I am forced to Wal-Mart because Kmart sucks and I will never set foot in there again.
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I don't buy ammo at Wal-Mart. And I dropped over $1K with ammoman just two weeks ago. I just don't shop at Kmart ever because of the ammo thing as a matter of principle.
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I don't understand - you stated that you are "forced to Wal-Mart" and talked about ammo being only available at Wal-Mart. If you aren't buying there, very good. Sorry if I came down too hard.
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Well maybe I wasn't clear. 1. I try to stay out of Wal-Mart. But sometimes it is inevitable. 2. Kmart sells similar junk. 3. But, I won't go into Kmart because they kissed Michael Moore's fat ass. 4. So, I go to Wal-Mart. 5. I don't buy ammo at either one and never have, except I think I got some shotgun shells at Wal-Mart once. 6. Wal-Mart, as awful as they may be, did NOT kiss Michael Moore's fat ass. They get a few points for that in my book.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 6:54:40 AM EDT
What makes capitalism work is competition. Wal-Mart is supremely competitive. They are competitive because they screw their suppliers. Other stores screw their customers. I am a customer.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:02:43 AM EDT
I have never been inside a wal mart store,or a k mart.At this point,and after reading these posts,I see no reason to change my buying habits.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:05:27 AM EDT
I watched a special about Walmart not too long ago about how they move in to areas and basically shut down all of the small grocery stores, hardware stores, etc. One position was that they are the nation's largest employer and that we should be thankful that they offer goods at prices that most people can afford On the other hand, they allegedly are very stingy on what employees get health benefits. So much so, that their managers are trained on instructing their employees on how to seek out and apply for government assistance programs. A study was also done showing that the average Walmart employee made on average 25% less than those employees who lost their jobs when their stores were closed down Food for thought
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:09:12 AM EDT
Was working in Toledo these past few weeks and during training I mentioned Wal-Mart to a few union Electricians. My God, you would have thought I said "Burn in hell sparky faggots!" The unions don't like Wal-mart because they are a non-union organization. This I like since unions typically lead to more waste than improvment. However most of us (from what I see on this board) don't like Wally World for several reasons including the fact that they sell mostly imported Chinese goods. Just wait 20 years, China will be holding so many good cards in their deck that we (the US) will be pandering to them; although it can be said we are already doing it now. Been to China before, let me tell you working conditions there aren't the greatest, in fact its like going back 50+ years compared to our standards. I deal with OSHA and EPA codes and programs, these people looked at me as if I was crazy for the safety and environmental rules I normally have to implement here in the US. A lot of people in China live in the plant they work in. They fight over cardboard and scrap materials for bedding. Most of them think their way of life is normal; just like a lot of Americans can't think of living any other way then they live. If someone gets hurt they keep working. If they don't they're gone, and I don't know where they sent them. I will most likely be going back there in the future to help oversee more manufacturing plants opening in China. Yeah.....
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:10:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sydney7629: I watched a special about Walmart not too long ago about how they move in to areas and basically shut down all of the small grocery stores, hardware stores, etc.
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Which means ultimately, Walmart won't have competition, and can raise prices accordingly, if they want.
One position was that they are the nation's largest employer and that we should be thankful that they offer goods at prices that most people can afford
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If they still have jobs..........
On the other hand, they allegedly are very stingy on what employees get health benefits. So much so, that their managers are trained on instructing their employees on how to seek out and apply for government assistance programs.
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Which translated means that WE the people and Walmart's competition is helping to pick up these costs.
A study was also done showing that the average Walmart employee made on average 25% less than those employees who lost their jobs when their stores were closed down
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Which means about 40% less buying power. Where does that lead?
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:28:37 AM EDT
This story is "old news"! When Sears, Roebuck & CO. was king of retail (catalog sales, etc.) they did the exact same thing to their suppliers. Only difference was that almost all their goods were badged with Sears brands (hiding the actual mfr from consumers). There are well documented stories such as this attributed to Sears that probably go back 20-30 years. History repeats itself, if we don't learn anything from it. And this has nothing to do with forcing jobs off-shore. It's pure capitalism . . . each mfr has the right to say "NO" when a deal is "too good to be true"! If one gets greedy and allows themselves to be put in a "gong for broke" situation, they have nobody but themselves to blame for going broke!
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:32:07 AM EDT
I have shopped at Walmart recently. Bought 8 Black and Decker Lids off appliances for 35.99+tax... sold them on Ebay [;)] wish they had more when I bought them. I believe in Capitalism. Recent example... [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2366236888&category=20670&rd=1[/url]
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 7:46:19 AM EDT
I dont even like pickles. I do shop at wall mart though.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 1:34:37 PM EDT
I go to Wal-Mart. Only store in town except for Big-5 that sells ammo and guns. All the sporting godds stuff I buy there is made in USA (although the last swivels were Italian). big-5 sells furrin guns.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 2:07:20 PM EDT
Wow. I truly had no idea how emmense Wal Mart was. I mean I knew they were everywhere and all but damn... I feel dirty.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 2:33:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Jim_Dandy:
Am I the only one that gets chills when reading this?
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Yes, because his comment was just sarcasm.
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You are correct, I was being sarcastic but I don't see the difference in the 2 companies. Isn't this a monopoly? If Walmart can crush all of the competition and it is OK then why was Microsoft broke up? Someone please explain this to me.
Link Posted: 12/23/2003 2:37:45 PM EDT
show me a national chain store that does not sell any products made from outside of america. i can't think of any store that does. target, kmart, sears, wal-mart... most of their items all all made somewhere other than this country. if you choose not to shop at wal-mart, then i am happy for you. that is one of sam waltons beliefs. that customers are the boss and they tell you what to sell and how to do it. they vote with their money and if they don't like how you do it they take their money elsewhere. i have worked for wal-mart for 5 and a half years. the benefits are better than other places i have worked. i make enough money(wife works also of course) to support my family (2 kids also) and have some left over to buy scary black rifles occasionally. would i like to make more money? of course i would. who doesn't want to make more money? do i see myslef making a career out of wal-mart? no, but it pays the bills until i can find somehting better.
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