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Posted: 8/26/2005 3:10:41 PM EDT
The UN Wants Your Guns
Michael E. Cook To all you gun owners and those who like your freedoms and rights I want to give you a heads up. The United Nations is working very hard on a treaty that would impose a world wide ban on civilian ownership of firearms. The UN in New York held an international conference on July 11th through the 15th. In attendance were many nations and lots of gun ban groups. They hope to have this treaty ready for every nation to sign by next year. So you say how would this effect me as a gun owner, well I'll tell you. Any treaty that is signed trumps the Constitution and our bill of rights as I understand the law. That means if some president we elect would sign this then it would affect every citizen in America that owns a firearm. Can you just imagine what would happen if Hilary Clinton was elected our next president? I along with many others in the pro-gun movement see this as the single largest threat we will ever endure to our rights to keep and bear arms in America. This fight could be of great effect on our national sovereignty, and our individual freedoms for the future of our nation and children. I believe this threat to be far worse than our war on terrorism that we are now fighting. I can't stress any stronger what this would do to us for generations to come. The fight must start with your vote, it is more important now than ever that we elect people with strong pro-gun stances to every elected office in this nation right down to those we elect to city councils. We must send a strong and clear message to them all that we will not stand for this threat to our freedoms and the nation we all love a fight to keep free. I see this as the catalyst for the next world war and civil war right here on our soil. The cost in human life and our freedoms would be far too great. I like many of you would not go softly into the next years without putting up a fight. I'm an old man and if they kill me the world wouldn't lose much, however I worry about my children and grand children and what they would face in the future. My only hope is that God will smile on America once more and help us through this fight. Once this starts it will not be a good thing for anyone. Our future and our world as we know it would be worse than the holocaust in Germany. Perhaps this is the start of the great world war that will start the thousand years of piece prior to the end of the world. I don't know but it sure is looking bad from my saddle. I tell you all of this so that you can prepare for what I believe to be the hardest fight we will have in the future and hope that we can stop it with our very important vote instead of having to take up arms and fight the hard way. I have been to war and it is not a good thing, as they say war is hell. This means we will all have to sacrifice as much as possible in the next year and help people like the National Rifle Association and other pro-gun organizations as much as possible to get the right people elected to office. This will mean we must each reach down as far as possible and give tell it hurts with financial aid and writing letters and making phone calls to get the right people in office all over this land of ours. You won't hear or see much on the main stream media about this yet because >they don't want you to get up in arms and fight this until it is sprung on you at the last minute. It's the old mushroom syndrome to keep you in the dark until you're picked. If you are not a member of the NRA or other pro-gun organizations please join now as our strength is in numbers with those in office. This may be the single most important thing you do to insure that America and our freedoms endure for years to come. Please take the time to be informed about this and other issues and put up the fight that I know you are all able to do. Even if you are not a gun owner this could affect your life and quality of life for future generations. We need your help also. If we lose our rights then America is finished for good. It's time for the United Nations to go away and leave our soil for good. When nations like Great Britain, Sweden, the Netherlands, France, Japan, and Belgium are attemp! ting to tell us how to live. Most if not all other nations owe there way of life to us and our freedoms and our people who are the best in the world with weapons because we have the freedom and rights to use them and own them. Now they want to control us and make us slaves like their own subjects. I think not. God Bless America and God bless our troops still in harms way. Michael E. Cook, Coos County Sheriff, Retired. |
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if any president were to sign that treaty their day in office would end shortly.
most likely by a bullet to the head |
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UN Treaties still have to be ratified in the senate before they take effect in the US. |
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The amount of ignorance about how the US Government works displayed by some here is amazing. BTW, the NRA has been tracking this shit for over a year. Old fucking news. |
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And it wouldn't be Pakistani soldiers collecting them. Deputy Joe will just be enforcing the new law of the land.
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that very well may be but do you still think any president that signed it would be free from harm?? |
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no bullshit treaties trump the constitution. The constitution is what gives our government the power to enter into treaties in the first place. Whether or not the government tries to ignore this fact is another manner. I don't know the man who wrote that peice, but if this ever comes to pass I will be honored to fight along side him for justice, freedom, and the United States Constitution.
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I wasn't disagreeing with the article. I agree, the first line of defense is having a President who will refuse to sign any such treaty. But he isn't king and his word is not law. The Constitution is explicitly clear about treaties. Uh, and SWO_daddy, that IS how it works. |
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1. It CAN happen here. We as Americans have already lost a ton of rights, incrementally and the antis are close to making that "final push". 2. For some, it's not "Old fucking news", so, go piss on your own threads. ETA: If you think the NRA can save you from this crap, then you're sadly mistaken. |
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I know exactly how it works. I was referring to the chicken littles who freak out if the prez signs it. He may as well be signing a scrap of toilet paper if the Senate doesn't ratify. |
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Umm, candygram! Uhh yeah, the Senate is full of Anti-Gun big government liberals, you can bet your ass they WILL sign it. If you think otherwise, I want some of what you've been smokin'. |
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I don't think that a treaty can trump a provision of the constitution or bill of rights. That would allow an end-run around the amendment process. IIRC, that was one of the reasons for the trail of tears, where the Cherokee and other civilized tribes were forced to Oklahoma. The President couldn't sign a treaty which would alter the borders of a State without violating the Constitution.
Anyway, if the blue helmets do come, should we bury or burn the piles of their dead? |
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ill shoot em when they knock on the door, cold dead hands etc... blahblahblah
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Screw that! I'll be waiting for them at the beach. |
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that's nice, but i'd put the 10 ring lower, and make the other rings bonus points |
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Life would get pretty hary when they came to pick up those "surrendered" guns.
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All joking aside, the UN wont come in to take your guns. It will be the people you know that live in your community that are "just doing their job".
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And no treaty can be ratified that trumps national sovereignty. |
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Actually, they can. Article VI of the Constitution:
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You need to read "The Hologram of Liberty" By Bostn T. Party. He outlined this senario back when he wrote the book. He also goes into detail how treaties work it is a good read adn very well researched.
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If they were to make it all the way to my door, I have given all I can give. I pass the torch. Anyone who would wait for the wolves to actually step foot on their own property, won't do a goddamn thing when they get there. They will roll over. |
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You mean these people? |
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That excuse didn't work very well when the nazi's tried to use it after WWII did it??? I'm afraid it won't sit too well this time either... |
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It's just a ruse to get what they really want: our pre-pubescent sons.
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I certainly hope there are enough of you with the same attitude to render the UN useless... Well, more useless than it already is... |
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That just means that they trump state law. The "laws of the United States" are Congressional acts and they don't trump the bill of right either. |
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Breycor I have shaken your hand more than once. You know and I know there are people like us always who will observe the struggle, no matter the cost, no matter if the Sherrif's office supports the movement or not. |
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Guess, the ATF better have lots of SCUBA certified divers to find the items of all the boating accidents.
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If they want them, let them come and get them, they have no real power to do anything.
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I hope you plan to head for the hills when it's ratified. They won't be coming door to door. Do you work? Go to the grocery store? Drive on the roads?
They won't be coming door to door. It won't be the UN doing it either. |
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I swear sometimes you guys are like a bunch of 12 year old boys, sitting around a campfire at night telling ridiculous spook stories to each other. |
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Just to be clear..... I'm not worried at this point. When it starts being talked about in the political circles then I'll start fitting my tin-foil. |
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Beats burying your head in the sand. |
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A treaty CANNOT trump the Constitution.
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