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Posted: 10/6/2004 9:49:40 AM EST
Assuming that GWB wins 4 more years....it is pretty obvious that Hillary will be the next democratic candidate for the presidency, come 2008.

She will have 2-3 years of the spotlight...and whateer people dont know her name today will certainly know it by then.

Cheney has already made it pretty clear that he isnt running for office in 2008 (which is a shame, because the guy is probably the most qualified of the field)

Republicans need to get some faces out into the public...so that when the time comes to rally behind a candidate...the popularity contest has some balance.

I cant possible imagine a world in which Hillary is the president of my country... I sincerely hope that the party has some aces ready to take over when the time comes.

What are your predictions for the GOP candidate in 2008?

A Rice / Clinton race would be an interesting one.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 9:50:41 AM EST
I wonder if Jeb could run right after 8 years of GWB? Probably not.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 9:52:11 AM EST
I dont even want to think what this country would turn into with Hillary leading it
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 9:54:34 AM EST
Fred Thompson
Bill Frist
Condeleeza Rice


There are other's I'd back, these are the ones I expect to see (well, 2 of them, anyway).
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 9:56:22 AM EST
Powell
Romney
McCain
Ventura
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 9:57:24 AM EST
Condoleeza Rice 2008
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:05:52 AM EST
I predict a Rice/Frist ticket probably with Frist at the top of the ticket.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:07:26 AM EST
Rudi Giuliani

I don't agree with a lot of his political positions...but he is light years more to the right than the socialist bitch Clinton. She is a true believer...a fellow traveler.

Rudi can kick her ass. Not sure if any of the others mentioned here have the "star power" to bring the ladies' votes to our side.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:10:05 AM EST
I can't believe all you guys pinning your hopes on Condie Rice. Based on what? She is not the least bit qualified for the job of President as yet.

I like Thompson but he is not going to run. Maybe a few skeletons he doesn't want dug out of the closet.
I also like Alan Keyes but he is probably unelectable. It is too bad that Ollie North didn't win his bid for Congress. If he were out in front as a Congressman he might have had a serious shot someday.

McCain? He might have a shot at it but I don't trust him to protect the rights and freedoms of americans.

Frist? Too much of a politician for me.

Powell? Never could figure out why conservatives got such a boner for him. If he ever got elected you'd probably find out just how liberal the guy really is.

Simpson from WY would have made a great President but he is too old now.

Ventura? Maybe, might even get my vote. He's got to add to his resume though.

If Hilary gets elected all Hell's likely to break loose in this country before she finishes.

Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:10:21 AM EST
Rudy/Rice
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:12:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
I wonder if Jeb could run right after 8 years of GWB? Probably not.



Can't have him. We need him in FL. His briefings before, during and after hurricanes were impressive and he seems like he doesn't take a lot of crap from reporters who need to learn that the phrase "there are no dumb questions" doesn't apply to them.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:12:33 AM EST
Ron Paul/ Sam Johnson
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:13:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I can't believe all you guys pinning your hopes on Condie Rice. Based on what? She is not the least bit qualified for the job of President as yet.


Grasshopper....

WHOEVER is the nominee, will spend three years as Vice President, first.

Cheney will step down next year, allowing a new VEEP to establish credibilty.

Condi is it.

Or Rudy.

NOT a sitting sentator, unless that state's Gov is a Republican.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:14:12 AM EST
I honestly think (or it may be wishfull thinking) that the Dems putting up Hillary would lose a large part of the swing vote. The moderate Dems couldn't get behind her, her views are just to well known.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:14:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By hound:
Ron Paul/ Sam Johnson


In a dream world, that would be great.
But they aren't going to be it, and they wouldn't win.

Victory requires strategy, unfortunately.

You can't treat a run for the Presidency like "Pickett's Charge".
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:15:46 AM EST
I have the world of respect for Jeb, but I agree it's tough to envision the public voting for a third Bush in 20 years.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:16:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Rudy/Rice




Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooo!

That'd be almost enough to get me to vote Democratic. No shit! Not enough to get me to ever vote for Hilary though.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:18:21 AM EST
buchanan/nugent
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:19:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:
I wonder if Jeb could run right after 8 years of GWB? Probably not.



He'd be a good VP choice. My ideal 2008 GOP ticket right now would be Ridge/JB.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:19:31 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
buchanan/nugent



Your best post ever.......
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:19:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 10:25:17 AM EST by motown_steve]

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I can't believe all you guys pinning your hopes on Condie Rice. Based on what? She is not the least bit qualified for the job of President as yet.


Grasshopper....

WHOEVER is the nominee, will spend three years as Vice President, first.

Cheney will step down next year, allowing a new VEEP to establish credibilty.

Condi is it.

Or Rudy.

NOT a sitting sentator, unless that state's Gov is a Republican.



I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my entire life.

ETA - Every one of the realistic scenarios that you guys are presenting are extremely depressing. I don't think either Rice or Frist are electable as President, Jeb can't run on his brother's heels, and I hate both Rudy and McCain.

I think that the Republican Party needs to take a long hard look at the American Born republican governors across the country and come up with someone other than Pataki (he's the governor of New York right?).
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:23:38 AM EST

McCain


Now THERE'S a R.I.N.O. !!
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:24:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I can't believe all you guys pinning your hopes on Condie Rice. Based on what? She is not the least bit qualified for the job of President as yet.


Grasshopper....

WHOEVER is the nominee, will spend three years as Vice President, first.

Cheney will step down next year, allowing a new VEEP to establish credibilty.

Condi is it.

Or Rudy.

NOT a sitting sentator, unless that state's Gov is a Republican.



I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my entire life.



I don't see it happening either.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:24:26 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sierra_Hombre:
buchanan/nugent



I'd endorse that!!!!!
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:24:28 AM EST
It's true - Dick "Slap" Cheney will step down within 2 years of his re-election out of respect for the office of VP.

In "Chainsaw's" place, with the approval of Congress, will either be McCain or Rudy.

(or perhaps Adm. Ackbar)
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:24:54 AM EST
After the contitution is ammended.. The Terminator! just you wait..
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:26:22 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/6/2004 10:30:36 AM EST by drjarhead]
McCain as VP would be something I could envision. He is something of a RINO, however.
If he ran against Hilary he would kick her ass. Everyone is worried about Hilary but I don't think she is electable. Sure, there are plenty of libs who get all excited about her but a large segment of the population finds her repulsive. Tough to get elected President that way.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:26:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I can't believe all you guys pinning your hopes on Condie Rice. Based on what? She is not the least bit qualified for the job of President as yet.


Grasshopper....

WHOEVER is the nominee, will spend three years as Vice President, first.

Cheney will step down next year, allowing a new VEEP to establish credibilty.

Condi is it.

Or Rudy.

NOT a sitting sentator, unless that state's Gov is a Republican.



I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my entire life.

ETA - Every one of the realistic scenarios that you guys are presenting are extremely depressing. I don't think either Rice or Frist are electable as President, Jeb can't run on his brother's heels, and I hate both Rudy and McCain.

I think that the Republican Party needs to take a long hard look at the American Born republican governors across the country and come up with someone other than Pataki (he's the governor of New York right?).


What's ridiculous?

Cheney stepping down is a serious possibility, as well a politically smart move for the Republicans.
Whomever is then the VEEP will be the Republican Nominee.

It's a sound theory.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:27:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty:
After the contitution is ammended.. The Terminator! just you wait..



Unfortunately, the House actually has a comitee looking into it. That would make the most viable options Rudy, McCain and Ahnuld.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:32:02 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I can't believe all you guys pinning your hopes on Condie Rice. Based on what? She is not the least bit qualified for the job of President as yet.


Grasshopper....

WHOEVER is the nominee, will spend three years as Vice President, first.

Cheney will step down next year, allowing a new VEEP to establish credibilty.

Condi is it.

Or Rudy.

NOT a sitting sentator, unless that state's Gov is a Republican.



I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my entire life.

ETA - Every one of the realistic scenarios that you guys are presenting are extremely depressing. I don't think either Rice or Frist are electable as President, Jeb can't run on his brother's heels, and I hate both Rudy and McCain.

I think that the Republican Party needs to take a long hard look at the American Born republican governors across the country and come up with someone other than Pataki (he's the governor of New York right?).


What's ridiculous?

Cheney stepping down is a serious possibility, as well a politically smart move for the Republicans.
Whomever is then the VEEP will be the Republican Nominee.

It's a sound theory.



I can't see changing the VP halfway through an administration with 2, possibly 3 wars going on just to set up the next cantidate for the 2008 election. Especially when the party feels that they have plenty of "viable" contenders without setting up a temporary VP.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:36:08 AM EST
I could see it.

Changing a VEEP during a war?
What's the problem?

It's switching to a Hillary administration in 2008 that would be a problem.

Cheney will have "health problems".
It will happen.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:36:54 AM EST
ME in '08.

Conservative values.

Future minded.

Act instead of REact.

A strong, low tax, economy at home and a mighty military abroad. The Great White Fleet shall pale.

Flat-tax and the abolishment AND DISBANDING of the IRS with the creation of the BRS (Business Revenue Service) with the goal of a lean force to collect and maintain incoming tax money.

ANTI-SOCIALIST

A represenative of the people NOT polls

Common sense and personal responsibility not victim-hood

Abolish teachers unions

Privatize schools (the government shall only use tax money for people WITHOUT the means to pay)

Normalize homeschooling /standarized tests but no standardized curriculum.

Internal Oil development and Nuclear Power.

Call for a Constiutional Oversight committee with strict orders to make Judges adhere to the constitution and not "interpret" it.



Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:36:58 AM EST
Yup, they need Cheney. Now there's a guy who would have made a great President.

There are no real standouts now except McCain. After this election, hopefully, there will be a handful of leaders who stand up and get noticed. Someone will come out of nowhere if you ask me. But it won't be Condie Rice.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:37:45 AM EST

Originally Posted By Malpaso:
Powell
Romney
McCain
Ventura



You've spent too much time in MA.


Powell...wife isn't cut out to be a first lady and I don't think he'd make a good president.

Never heard of him

McCain---Are you fuckin serious?

Ventura....Not unless he gets some more experience as a governor or senator first.

I still can't believe that you said McCain.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:38:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Yup, they need Cheney. Now there's a guy who would have made a great President.

There are no real standouts now except McCain. After this election, hopefully, there will be a handful of leaders who stand up and get noticed. Someone will come out of nowhere if you ask me. But it won't be Condie Rice.


Wanna bet?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:38:57 AM EST
Ventura???

Are you guys high?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:41:35 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
Yup, they need Cheney. Now there's a guy who would have made a great President.

There are no real standouts now except McCain. After this election, hopefully, there will be a handful of leaders who stand up and get noticed. Someone will come out of nowhere if you ask me. But it won't be Condie Rice.


Wanna bet?



I would if I ever thought we'd even remember this conversation 4 years from now.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:43:29 AM EST
I'll remember.

Besides, Cheney will step down next year.
It will then be settled.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:46:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Ventura???

Are you guys high?




Umm...maybe?!

Actually, Ventura did a fine job as Governor of MN. Being next door, in WI, I kept track plenty. He did well. I't take him any day over the POS we have as Gov right now.

But for President? I've got to see more.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:47:30 AM EST
I was always thinking it might have been OK to have Cheney move to a consulting role this round and put in Rice for VP. Can you see her debating Hitlery on political experience, women's issues, national security, minority rights? good stuff. Remember Cheney was never really asking to be VP the 1st time around so he would do whatever GW asked of him!

But after watching Dick last night in the debate - I think it is good the President stuck with him for 04!


08

Hitlery -vs- Rudy (oh -vs- Nader)
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:48:01 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
I'll remember.

Besides, Cheney will step down next year.
It will then be settled.



No, it'd be settled when Condie gets the nomination!

With Cheney's heart he could be out at any time. But I do not think he will step down.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:52:09 AM EST
Terrible Ted would get my vote!
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:52:17 AM EST

Originally Posted By Gartchen:
I was always thinking it might have been OK to have Cheney move to a consulting role this round and put in Rice for VP. Can you see her debating Hitlery on political experience, women's issues, national security, minority rights? good stuff. Remember Cheney was never really asking to be VP the 1st time around so he would do whatever GW asked of him!



Yes he would do whatever is best for this country. Right now he is doing what is best for it.


But after watching Dick last night in the debate - I think it is good the President stuck with him for 04!


Oh yeah.[


Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:54:04 AM EST

Originally Posted By Cincinnatus:
Condoleeza Rice 2008



+1

She is certainly smart enough.

Does she have any leadership credentials?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:56:47 AM EST
I am thinking a revolution. I would vote for a

EdAvilaSr / TBK1

That sounds like a good ticket to me.

I bet we wouldn't worry about our freedom then.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 10:58:27 AM EST
I can not believe that I hear people advocating Rudy and McCain. That will kill the GOP. I hope Hillary runs against a RINO like that...I will give her campaign money. I'd much rather have political grid lock that a progressive republican that will slowly turn on conservative values. I fear that a Rudy or McCain will have enought bipartisan support to push a lot of their agenda that hurts us gun owners. If you have Hillary in the White House, she will be met with resistance no matter what she proposes.

Someone that is favorable to us or complete gridlock...
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:00:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By phatmax:
ME in '08.

Conservative values.

Future minded.

Act instead of REact.

A strong, low tax, economy at home and a mighty military abroad. The Great White Fleet shall pale.

Flat-tax and the abolishment AND DISBANDING of the IRS with the creation of the BRS (Business Revenue Service) with the goal of a lean force to collect and maintain incoming tax money.

ANTI-SOCIALIST

A represenative of the people NOT polls

Common sense and personal responsibility not victim-hood

Abolish teachers unions

Privatize schools (the government shall only use tax money for people WITHOUT the means to pay)

Normalize homeschooling /standarized tests but no standardized curriculum.

Internal Oil development and Nuclear Power.

Call for a Constiutional Oversight committee with strict orders to make Judges adhere to the constitution and not "interpret" it.






Can I be your VP?
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:01:13 AM EST

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I can't believe all you guys pinning your hopes on Condie Rice. Based on what? She is not the least bit qualified for the job of President as yet.

I like Thompson but he is not going to run. Maybe a few skeletons he doesn't want dug out of the closet.
I also like Alan Keyes but he is probably unelectable. It is too bad that Ollie North didn't win his bid for Congress. If he were out in front as a Congressman he might have had a serious shot someday.

McCain? He might have a shot at it but I don't trust him to protect the rights and freedoms of americans.

Frist? Too much of a politician for me.

Powell? Never could figure out why conservatives got such a boner for him. If he ever got elected you'd probably find out just how liberal the guy really is.

Simpson from WY would have made a great President but he is too old now.

Ventura? Maybe, might even get my vote. He's got to add to his resume though.

If Hilary gets elected all Hell's likely to break loose in this country before she finishes.




Because she's black AND she's a woman. It would take away from the lib's claims that the GOP is racist and sexist. (in theory)
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:04:36 AM EST

Originally Posted By lu380:

Originally Posted By drjarhead:
I can't believe all you guys pinning your hopes on Condie Rice. Based on what? She is not the least bit qualified for the job of President as yet.

I like Thompson but he is not going to run. Maybe a few skeletons he doesn't want dug out of the closet.
I also like Alan Keyes but he is probably unelectable. It is too bad that Ollie North didn't win his bid for Congress. If he were out in front as a Congressman he might have had a serious shot someday.

McCain? He might have a shot at it but I don't trust him to protect the rights and freedoms of americans.

Frist? Too much of a politician for me.

Powell? Never could figure out why conservatives got such a boner for him. If he ever got elected you'd probably find out just how liberal the guy really is.

Simpson from WY would have made a great President but he is too old now.

Ventura? Maybe, might even get my vote. He's got to add to his resume though.

If Hilary gets elected all Hell's likely to break loose in this country before she finishes.




Because she's black AND she's a woman. It would take away from the lib's claims that the GOP is racist and sexist. (in theory)



And that is one hell of a lousy reason IMO.
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:06:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By sloth:
I can not believe that I hear people advocating Rudy and McCain. That will kill the GOP. I hope Hillary runs against a RINO like that...I will give her campaign money. I'd much rather have political grid lock that a progressive republican that will slowly turn on conservative values. I fear that a Rudy or McCain will have enought bipartisan support to push a lot of their agenda that hurts us gun owners. If you have Hillary in the White House, she will be met with resistance no matter what she proposes.

Someone that is favorable to us or complete gridlock...



You are endorsing who?

If you are going to post you have to propose a solution!
Link Posted: 10/6/2004 11:07:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By FatMan:

Originally Posted By phatmax:
ME in '08.

Conservative values.

Future minded.

Act instead of REact.

A strong, low tax, economy at home and a mighty military abroad. The Great White Fleet shall pale.

Flat-tax and the abolishment AND DISBANDING of the IRS with the creation of the BRS (Business Revenue Service) with the goal of a lean force to collect and maintain incoming tax money.

ANTI-SOCIALIST

A represenative of the people NOT polls

Common sense and personal responsibility not victim-hood

Abolish teachers unions

Privatize schools (the government shall only use tax money for people WITHOUT the means to pay)

Normalize homeschooling /standarized tests but no standardized curriculum.

Internal Oil development and Nuclear Power.

Call for a Constiutional Oversight committee with strict orders to make Judges adhere to the constitution and not "interpret" it.






Can I be your VP?




Can I be Secretary of the Interior? or maybe run the USDA?
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