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Posted: 7/18/2008 1:51:12 PM EDT
A friend & I were talking about boats today & the conversation ended up with us talking about making a pontoon boat out of 55 gallon barrels.

Has anybody here on ARFCOM done this?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 1:52:15 PM EDT
[#1]
This is a perfect start of your cover story for an Obama presidency.  Good job!!!
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 1:53:33 PM EDT
[#2]
Non-motorized?  Sure.

Motorized?  Take video.  I need a laugh.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:01:22 PM EDT
[#3]

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Non-motorized?  Sure.

Motorized?  Take video.  I need a laugh.

if the drums are welded together and nose cones/hydrofoil built it could work very well.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:03:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Fill the drums with foam.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:04:07 PM EDT
[#5]
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:08:21 PM EDT
[#6]
we had to do for boy scout camp or some such.  the trick was, we had to do it while in the water.

i'm sure the scout leaders had a good laugh.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:09:14 PM EDT
[#7]
hawaii  
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:09:57 PM EDT
[#8]
I saw one of these several years ago.

It looked like a bunch of barrels welded together with a deck thrown on top of it....that is to say like hammered shit. But hey, go ahead and build one. Second the previous posters thought on foaming the barrels.

Take this to the lake and you can use the money set aside on condoms for more beer!  
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:11:08 PM EDT
[#9]
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:13:01 PM EDT
[#10]
55 Gallon Drum Houseboat

Apparently, it can be done.  Mildly funny video also.  
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:13:49 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Fill the drums with foam.


Just fill them with packing peanuts.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:15:38 PM EDT
[#12]
Around here they're called "docks"
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:18:46 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most.  But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.  
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:19:54 PM EDT
[#14]
Junkyard wars did a few of them.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:20:59 PM EDT
[#15]
I ask that you buy barrels that were used for foodstuffs. Not for some enviroweenie reason - welding on a drum that's held hydrocarbons is just plain stupid. You need to back-flush it with steam while you're welding, blah blah blah.

You could also get the large olive drums. We use them to store AN at the shoot - they're plastic and would last a lot longer in the water than metal.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:21:21 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
55 Gallon Drum Houseboat

Apparently, it can be done.  Mildly funny video also.  


LOL some classic one liners.

"If we had balogna during the Civil War we woulda won."
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:24:52 PM EDT
[#17]
Eh, we've made rafts out of kegs, and were shitfaced doing it.  (It was a wonderful opportunity brough upon us by Hurricane Ivan.)


I'm sure a pontoon boat, put together sober, is more than doable.


- BG
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:26:42 PM EDT
[#18]
How many barrels?

Keith J is right -

Each barrel will support about 430 pounds when fully submerged. Do you want them fully submerged?

You do the math.

Filling the barrels with foam will reduce their load carrying ability by the weight of the foam.

On the other hand if the barrels leak the foam will save your rear end.

Mike
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:28:20 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
A friend & I were talking about boats today & the conversation ended up with us talking about making a pontoon boat out of 55 gallon barrels.

Has anybody here on ARFCOM done this?



It was on an old episode of junkyard wars about 2 weeks ago...


I didn't stick around for the end result.  We watched whos line is it anyway instead.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:29:19 PM EDT
[#20]



Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:29:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:31:32 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most.  But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.  


I've got a couple that I was thinking about making a bbq pit with
but, they've taken some rust from being outdoors for a few months

I could start collecting them and painting them with something to
delay their rusting If I had some sort of a design plan to work with

Preferably a design that would allow for the EASY replacement of rusted drums
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:32:59 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most.  But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.  


Use plastic 55gal barrels then .

Get them from Coke & Pepsi bottling plants.


I can probably get the metal ones(in pristine condition)for free
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:37:13 PM EDT
[#24]
Stainless are used in the wine industry...
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:38:26 PM EDT
[#25]
This is one of those "Hold my beer and watch this!" moments.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:40:33 PM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
Stainless are used in the wine industry...


Stainless bbls are used for nitric acid too.

15 years ago the deposit was $350/bbl.

It is probably $500 now.

Beer kegs would be cheaper than ss bbls.



ETA Plus a barge made out of beer kegs would be the ultimate redneck barge.



I own page 2 of the redneck barge thread.

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:55:35 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Non-motorized?  Sure.

Motorized?  Take video.  I need a laugh.

if the drums are welded together and nose cones/hydrofoil built it could work very well.


We're planning on some sort of nose on the pontoons, a little trolling motor & mabye a 5 or 10 hp putt-putt motor.


Quoted:

Quoted:
Fill the drums with foam.


Just fill them with packing peanuts.


I think packing peanuts dissolve in water.

We're planning on the 2 part rosin that expands into foam.


Quoted:

Quoted:
What would be the minimum number of barrels required? I can get a few of them


3, for stability although good luck getting a USCG type rating...that would net you about 1200 pounds of bouyancy, at the most.  But I would recommend 200 pounds each.

Watch for corrosion.  


I can get all the steel ones I want for free.

And I guess we'll just have to keep an eye on the paint.


Quoted:
I ask that you buy barrels that were used for foodstuffs. Not for some enviroweenie reason - welding on a drum that's held hydrocarbons is just plain stupid. You need to back-flush it with steam while you're welding, blah blah blah.

You could also get the large olive drums. We use them to store AN at the shoot - they're plastic and would last a lot longer in the water than metal.


They all had corn oil in them.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:58:14 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:


Quoted:

Quoted:
Fill the drums with foam.


Just fill them with packing peanuts.


I think packing peanuts dissolve in water.

We're planning on the 2 part rosin that expands into foam.



Most dissolve in Acetone, not water. But there are some that dissolve in water, to be eco-friendly. Just make sure you get the right kind
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:58:15 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
This is one of those "Hold my beer and watch this!" moments.


Link Posted: 7/18/2008 2:59:03 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
How many barrels?

Keith J is right -

Each barrel will support about 430 pounds when fully submerged. Do you want them fully submerged?

You do the math.

Filling the barrels with foam will reduce their load carrying ability by the weight of the foam.

On the other hand if the barrels leak the foam will save your rear end.

Mike


What foam should be used and what would be the foam per barrel cost?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:00:33 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Stainless are used in the wine industry...


Stainless bbls are used for nitric acid too.

15 years ago the deposit was $350/bbl.

It is probably $500 now.

Beer kegs would be cheaper than ss bbls.



ETA Plus a barge made out of beer kegs would be the ultimate redneck barge.



I own page 2 of the redneck barge thread.



I'm putting that in the title!
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:07:23 PM EDT
[#32]
A guy did that in Iowa with all his shop tools and saved his own business. Good thinking.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:28:03 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How many barrels?

Keith J is right -

Each barrel will support about 430 pounds when fully submerged. Do you want them fully submerged?

You do the math.

Filling the barrels with foam will reduce their load carrying ability by the weight of the foam.

On the other hand if the barrels leak the foam will save your rear end.

Mike


What foam should be used and what would be the foam per barrel cost?


From what I've been able to find out, an average 55 gallon drum has 7.35 cubic feet of volume.

We're thinking of using 8 barrels. SO, 8 X 7.35cu ft = 58.8cu ft. I found a kit for 40cu ft for $260. I fugure that will be enough to keep a rusty barrel from sinking. But that works out to $32.50/barrel.

Our origional idea of using expanding foam is sounding like it wasn't such a good idea. There's gotta be a cheaper way.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:37:19 PM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
[mom]And just where do you plan to go in this pontoon boat of your mister?[/mom]
Hawaii
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:39:43 PM EDT
[#35]
This has T.B.A. all over it.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:43:01 PM EDT
[#36]


Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:47:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:53:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Do you really need to foam the barrels...? If they are in fact sealed, the air alone should provide enough bouyancy (in theory). With multiple barrels welded together you would have a safety factor as each would be seprated from the other. Had I a source for barrels, I'd challenge you to a junk yard war...
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:56:48 PM EDT
[#39]
tag on the Redneck Barge thread.  Could be epic.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:57:33 PM EDT
[#40]
Want real, expert advice?

Ask some recent Cuban ex-pats.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:59:17 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
www.theloudpedal.com/uss_methlab.jpg


OH yeah, I forgot about that one. What was the name of that thread?
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 3:59:21 PM EDT
[#42]
It has and can be done, used to be lots of them in my AO in lakes.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:00:57 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
Want real, expert advice?

Ask some recent Cuban ex-pats.



100%
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:02:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Definitely foam the barrels.  They are bound to leak, especially after you weld them.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:16:14 PM EDT
[#45]
One of the Boy Scout troops in my town put a few together and would take them to the Colorado River and go on float trips with them.  Usually had at least 2 power boats around to keep them out of too much trouble.
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:20:39 PM EDT
[#46]
can a plastic barrel be used?
i can get them for free and they come in many differnt colors (blue, white, black...)
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:24:42 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
55 Gallon Drum Houseboat

Apparently, it can be done.  Mildly funny video also.  


OMG "If we would of have bologna during the civil war we would of won"

Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:41:02 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
How many barrels?

Keith J is right -

Each barrel will support about 430 pounds when fully submerged. Do you want them fully submerged?

You do the math.

Filling the barrels with foam will reduce their load carrying ability by the weight of the foam.

On the other hand if the barrels leak the foam will save your rear end.

Mike


What foam should be used and what would be the foam per barrel cost?


From what I've been able to find out, an average 55 gallon drum has 7.35 cubic feet of volume.

We're thinking of using 8 barrels. SO, 8 X 7.35cu ft = 58.8cu ft. I found a kit for 40cu ft for $260. I fugure that will be enough to keep a rusty barrel from sinking. But that works out to $32.50/barrel.

Our origional idea of using expanding foam is sounding like it wasn't such a good idea. There's gotta be a cheaper way.


Maybe there's a better deal on foam somewhere
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:45:04 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:


It's got a sundeck, bedroom, kitchen, bathroom\shower
(it just needs an add-on mini-garage for a motorcycle)
Link Posted: 7/18/2008 4:48:42 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
Definitely foam the barrels.  They are bound to leak, especially after you weld them.



Not a welder are you....
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