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Posted: 8/26/2015 7:02:56 PM EDT
“Bernie Sanders is a more honorable choice for Vermont sportsmen than ­Peter Smith,” wrote Wayne LaPierre, who was — and still is — a top official at the national NRA, backing Sanders over the Republican incumbent."

"Apparently the incumbent (Peter Smith) had changed his mind about a ban on ­assault weapons. The NRA and its allies wanted him beaten. They didn’t much care who beat him."
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Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:03:37 PM EDT
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They're a pro-gun organization. Not a Republican organization.
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:04:19 PM EDT
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Hmmmm..the 1990's?  Was the Republican one of the guys who signed onto the AWB?

eta: I find it hard to believe that the NRA is the reason Bernie Sanders was elected.
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:06:03 PM EDT
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Piss on this wannabe NRA hit piece.
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:12:56 PM EDT
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The NRA has a long history of backing the anti gun incumbents over better pro gun choices . They supported Harry Ried , Shumer , Lautenberg and others . This has been going on since the 90's . I was a member of another board and they had a full list of the 2000 democrats the NRA gave money to . I wish I had saved it .  I am a life member . The NRA will not provide previous campaign donations list to members
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:13:35 PM EDT
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Don't forget for a long time in the 80's and 90's the NRA supported HUNTERS, and to a smaller extent shooting sports.



You know, guns with "sporting purposes".
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You say this every thread

Every single thread I ask you to provide a shred of evidence the NRA has ever supported Chuck Schumer like you claim.

You never, ever provide jack shit.

Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:15:06 PM EDT
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Pretty much.

Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:20:41 PM EDT
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So the NRA tried to get rid of a Republican who supported AWBs in Vermont in the 1990s?  And supposedly pro-gun people are upset by that?
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You say this every thread

Every single thread I ask you to provide a shred of evidence the NRA has ever supported Chuck Schumer like you claim.

You never, ever provide jack shit.

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The NRA has a long history of backing the anti gun incumbents over better pro gun choices . They supported Harry Ried , Shumer , Lautenberg and others . This has been going on since the 90's . I was a member of another board and they had a full list of the 2000 democrats the NRA gave money to . I wish I had saved it .  I am a life member . The NRA will not provide previous campaign donations list to members


You say this every thread

Every single thread I ask you to provide a shred of evidence the NRA has ever supported Chuck Schumer like you claim.

You never, ever provide jack shit.






I have tried to get it . The NRA is not responsive at all . I even contacted a board member with zero results. The ILA will not answer either. The list was posted on subguns in 2000 before the elections . Hell they supported Reid the last time around .
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I have tried to get it . The NRA is not responsive at all . I even contacted a board member with zero results. The ILA will not answer either. The list was posted on subguns in 2000 before the elections . Hell they supported Reid the last time around .
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The NRA has a long history of backing the anti gun incumbents over better pro gun choices . They supported Harry Ried , Shumer , Lautenberg and others . This has been going on since the 90's . I was a member of another board and they had a full list of the 2000 democrats the NRA gave money to . I wish I had saved it .  I am a life member . The NRA will not provide previous campaign donations list to members


You say this every thread

Every single thread I ask you to provide a shred of evidence the NRA has ever supported Chuck Schumer like you claim.

You never, ever provide jack shit.






I have tried to get it . The NRA is not responsive at all . I even contacted a board member with zero results. The ILA will not answer either. The list was posted on subguns in 2000 before the elections . Hell they supported Reid the last time around .


Then maybe you should stop repeating unsubstantiated rumors you can't prove.

As for the Reid thing, we've discussed this before.  He was "pro gun" as long as the NRA continued to help him get elected.  People who think NRA should stand for National Republican Association got butthurt about it, they refused to endorse him, and he won without their help.  Big shocker, after that he didn't kill anti gun bills like he had in the past since he found out he could win without the NRA.



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FPNI.
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:30:44 PM EDT
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So libs hate the NRA but love puspus Sanders.  I doubt this will change much though.
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Then maybe you should stop repeating unsubstantiated rumors you can't prove.

As for the Reid thing, we've discussed this before.  He was "pro gun" as long as the NRA continued to help him get elected.  People who think NRA should stand for National Republican Association got butthurt about it, they refused to endorse him, and he won without their help.  Big shocker, after that he didn't kill anti gun bills like he had in the past since he found out he could win without the NRA.

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You say this every thread

Every single thread I ask you to provide a shred of evidence the NRA has ever supported Chuck Schumer like you claim.

You never, ever provide jack shit.






I have tried to get it . The NRA is not responsive at all . I even contacted a board member with zero results. The ILA will not answer either. The list was posted on subguns in 2000 before the elections . Hell they supported Reid the last time around .


Then maybe you should stop repeating unsubstantiated rumors you can't prove.

As for the Reid thing, we've discussed this before.  He was "pro gun" as long as the NRA continued to help him get elected.  People who think NRA should stand for National Republican Association got butthurt about it, they refused to endorse him, and he won without their help.  Big shocker, after that he didn't kill anti gun bills like he had in the past since he found out he could win without the NRA.



And at the time, Congress & the White House were controlled by Democrats.  Meaning that the major players who could block gun control or bring it up were Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and Barack Obama.  NRA should have endorsed Reid as the smart move; but instead they graded Reid a B and Angle an A and didn't endorse anyone - which was a half ass strategy that was guaranteed to (and did) please no one.

The NRA is lucky the GOP won the House during that cycle.
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 7:46:07 PM EDT
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They supported Reid when he would kill anti-gun legislation.  They did not support him the last time around as you say.  They gave no endorsement in the race.  You should probably check your facts.

They supported Bernie Sanders because he apparently did not support any new gun banning laws.  They opposed the Republican he was running against in the 90's who I believe vowed to oppose the AWB and then flip flopped and said he would vote to ban guns.
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 9:30:38 PM EDT
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The NRA doesn't care about your "gun rights." It cares about your money... It's all a scam. they sold out gun owners long ago. They don't give a fuck about you, me or anything else.
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So what pro gun organization gets your dollars and time?

Link Posted: 8/26/2015 9:42:05 PM EDT
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So what pro gun organization gets your dollars and time?

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So what pro gun organization gets your dollars and time?




No one gets a penny from me as far as that goes. I don't trust any of them...
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No one gets a penny from me as far as that goes. I don't trust any of them...
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So what pro gun organization gets your dollars and time?




No one gets a penny from me as far as that goes. I don't trust any of them...


A solid plan.

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So what pro gun organization gets your dollars and time?




No one gets a penny from me as far as that goes. I don't trust any of them...


A solid plan.



Dude they are the Rainbow Coalition of the rednecks. Lol
Link Posted: 8/26/2015 9:55:07 PM EDT
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I'd certainly rather hang around a Rainbow Coalition of rednecks who does something for gun rights than a FSA type like yourself.  That's just me though.  You're free to do what you want.

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I'd certainly rather hang around a Rainbow Coalition of rednecks who does something for gun rights than a FSA type like yourself.  That's just me though.  You're free to do what you want.

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Dude they are the Rainbow Coalition of the rednecks. Lol


I'd certainly rather hang around a Rainbow Coalition of rednecks who does something for gun rights than a FSA type like yourself.  That's just me though.  You're free to do what you want.




It's all good bro. I used to be a member, my dad is a life member. They pretty much non-existent now. They lobby a few million which helps fund some of the good guys, but other than that they don't do shit. Why don't they advertise in the mainstream to get new members and make it known that people like you actually give a crap? They circulate in the same areas of the world, spinning their wheels with the same old stuff. They need to modernize and do more for the "gun rights." Not just peace to the choir. That's just my opinion. It doesn't matter to much tho.
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Why don't they advertise in the mainstream to get new members and make it known that people like you actually give a crap? they do

They circulate in the same areas of the world, spinning their wheels with the same old stuff. They need to modernize and do more for the "gun rights."   they have

Not just peace to the choir. That's just my opinion. It doesn't matter to much tho. Your opinion is uninformed.  
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They circulate in the same areas of the world, spinning their wheels with the same old stuff. They need to modernize and do more for the "gun rights."   they have

Not just peace to the choir. That's just my opinion. It doesn't matter to much tho. Your opinion is uninformed.  


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I never see them organizing an active protest to anything.
Never see their commercials in prime time television.
Don't hear any ads on the radio.
I Never see anything NRA related outside of hunting shows or gun related events. They commercials they do run are usually the proverbial dad and son, walking in a hay field with engraved over and under shotguns or something like that. It's outdated and stale. That's why the fight for our "gun rights" is a losing battle.
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I never see them organizing an active protest to anything.
Never see their commercials in prime time television.
Don't hear any ads on the radio.
I Never see anything NRA related outside of hunting shows or gun related events. They commercials they do run are usually the proverbial dad and son, walking in a hay field with engraved over and under shotguns or something like that. It's outdated and stale. That's why the fight for our "gun rights" is a losing battle.
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Not just peace to the choir. That's just my opinion. It doesn't matter to much tho. Your opinion is uninformed.  


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I never see them organizing an active protest to anything.
Never see their commercials in prime time television.
Don't hear any ads on the radio.
I Never see anything NRA related outside of hunting shows or gun related events. They commercials they do run are usually the proverbial dad and son, walking in a hay field with engraved over and under shotguns or something like that. It's outdated and stale. That's why the fight for our "gun rights" is a losing battle.




You can lead a horse to water.....



Link Posted: 8/26/2015 11:21:55 PM EDT
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When did the NRA support Frank Lautenberg and Chuck Schumer?
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Never see their commercials in prime time television.
Don't hear any ads on the radio.
I Never see anything NRA related outside of hunting shows or gun related events. They commercials they do run are usually the proverbial dad and son, walking in a hay field with engraved over and under shotguns or something like that. It's outdated and stale. That's why the fight for our "gun rights" is a losing battle.
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You obviously don't watch TV or listen to the radio then.  NRA runs commercials on channels on my Direct TV all the time.  Heard radio spots also.  The current commercial running happens to be about democrats trying to ban guns and is nothing like you mention.  Stop it with your BS.


If you actually watched TV, listened to the radio or read some news on the internet you would know that the NRA filed a lawsuit in Seattle, WA because of a gun and ammo tax that violates a state law.

They are also involved in several lawsuits in California concerning bans on hicap and standard capacity magazines.

Last year they ran a multi-million dollar ad campaign that was even reported on liberal left wing sites you likely frequent............
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 12:24:25 AM EDT
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Let's all resign our NRA memberships and disband the organization completely.

All they do is send us junk mail and ask for money anyway.
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It's all good bro. I used to be a member, my dad is a life member. They pretty much non-existent now. They lobby a few million which helps fund some of the good guys, but other than that they don't do shit. Why don't they advertise in the mainstream to get new members and make it known that people like you actually give a crap? They circulate in the same areas of the world, spinning their wheels with the same old stuff. They need to modernize and do more for the "gun rights." Not just peace to the choir. That's just my opinion. It doesn't matter to much tho.
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Dude they are the Rainbow Coalition of the rednecks. Lol


I'd certainly rather hang around a Rainbow Coalition of rednecks who does something for gun rights than a FSA type like yourself.  That's just me though.  You're free to do what you want.




It's all good bro. I used to be a member, my dad is a life member. They pretty much non-existent now. They lobby a few million which helps fund some of the good guys, but other than that they don't do shit. Why don't they advertise in the mainstream to get new members and make it known that people like you actually give a crap? They circulate in the same areas of the world, spinning their wheels with the same old stuff. They need to modernize and do more for the "gun rights." Not just peace to the choir. That's just my opinion. It doesn't matter to much tho.


Well, you got one thing right.
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They circulate in the same areas of the world, spinning their wheels with the same old stuff. They need to modernize and do more for the "gun rights."   they have

Not just peace to the choir. That's just my opinion. It doesn't matter to much tho. Your opinion is uninformed.  


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Bump, so more people can see 74navaman's links.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 1:18:05 AM EDT
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they gave Reid an A rating too.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 1:35:21 AM EDT
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Sanders is no dummy, he knows if he came out as anti gun, Vermont would send him down the road.
He won't come out as anti gun unless he has won the White House, then Vermont can suck wind, just like the rest of the idiots that support him!
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He just wants a bit of common sense gun control, like a complete ban on semi-autos.





Nothing too extreme.





Your dues are overdue.  Send us money.  

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No, they did not. That's also not the first time I've corrected you on that piece of misinformation either.
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No, they did not. That's also not the first time I've corrected you on that piece of misinformation either.
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No, they did not. That's also not the first time I've corrected you on that piece of misinformation either.


Agenda's gotta be pursued.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 5:19:30 AM EDT
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oh look another thread where the anti NRA crowd spew misinformation and out right lies.  shocked I am, shocked for reals this time
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Meh, big deal.  I live for today.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 5:23:08 AM EDT
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I'm not a big fan of the NRA in some areas (Gib money pls) but I know that they do a lot of good. (Money pls) So I can't hate on them too much. Some anti-gun organizations almost feel like (Money pls?) scams with all the fear mongering they do. I have it on (pls money) good word from the NAGR that guns are 'this close' to being banned every two days since I've signed up to receive their spam mail.
Link Posted: 8/27/2015 6:25:06 AM EDT
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They really need to get shed of "President for Life" Wayne LaPierre. Talk about a need for term limits.
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Another thing we really need is to have more gun owners actually join, instead of the pathetically small percentage who are currently members.

That way, maybe the NRA could be the most feared lobbying group in the country, instead of, you know, the AARP.



"But...but...they might send me some junk mail!"

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LaPierre is not the NRA President, Jim Porter is. LaPierre has never been NRA president.
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That reads like you are a shill for NAGR.....
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LaPierre is not the NRA President, Jim Porter is. LaPierre has never been NRA president.
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LaPierre is not the NRA President, Jim Porter is. LaPierre has never been NRA president.


You are correct of course but "CEO/Executive VP for Life" does not have quite the historical ring to it.
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So you don't support the NRA.

You don't support ar15.com.

Are there any pro-gun organizations you do support?
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So you don't support the NRA.

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So you don't support the NRA.

You don't support ar15.com.

Are there any pro-gun organizations you do support?


I think this is one he supports
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Link Posted: 8/27/2015 7:37:35 AM EDT
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It's not my fault!

I am "uniformed" because they don't inform me. i shouldn't have to search for the NRA. That is the point I am trying to make. They choose to stay in the same circles, saying the same stuff, to the same people saying the same stuff. It's not really proactive. Sure they file some law suits a couple times a year but if I want to know about it I have to come to a gun forum or to the NRA site. I think they are in on the take but again that's just me and my opinion matters not. Take care fellas.
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So you don't support the NRA.

You don't support ar15.com.

Are there any pro-gun organizations you do support?


I used to be a member of the NRA. I got out because of the reasons I have been typing. I am not here trolling or trying to persuade people to leave them. I'm just stating my view of the organization based on my observation. If I was guaranteed that 100% of my monetary support would go to the fight and not to 6-7 figure salaries I would sign back up today. Until then I will buy more ammo.
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I used to be a member of the NRA. I got out because of the reasons I have been typing. I am not here trolling or trying to persuade people to leave them. I'm just stating my view of the organization based on my observation. If I was guaranteed that 100% of my monetary support would go to the fight and not to 6-7 figure salaries I would sign back up today. Until then I will buy more ammo.
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The NRA doesn't care about your "gun rights." It cares about your money... It's all a scam. they sold out gun owners long ago. They don't give a fuck about you, me or anything else.



So you don't support the NRA.

You don't support ar15.com.

Are there any pro-gun organizations you do support?


I used to be a member of the NRA. I got out because of the reasons I have been typing. I am not here trolling or trying to persuade people to leave them. I'm just stating my view of the organization based on my observation. If I was guaranteed that 100% of my monetary support would go to the fight and not to 6-7 figure salaries I would sign back up today. Until then I will buy more ammo.


You don't have to be a member to donate to the ILA, and no ILA money goes to executive salaries.
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