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Posted: 9/12/2005 7:45:58 PM EDT
My son has to read the book "The Jungle" in Social Studies class. I've never read this book, but I seem to remember it has a socialist agenda (which is probably why I've never read it). Now, my son has been properly indoctrinated and is unlikely to be swayed by this stuff, but if anyone has any info to share I would appreciate it. If the book is bad enough I may buy a copy so I know what kind of crap they are pushing in school today. Thanks.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 7:59:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/12/2005 8:01:10 PM EDT by mattimeo]
I had to read this book in school for AP English. I didn't consider it overly socialist.

As well, might I make a point?

Let your kid read what he wants to read. And let the school assign him what they want.

Continue to stay the course as a good parent, and make sure that he can think for himself. Continuing to teach him how to see through their liberal indoctrination crap is the best thing you could give him. Knowing how to make positive decisions on his own will be invaluable. Sounds like you're on top of it, seeing as you actually care about what he's doing in school.

And besides. Even books with a 'liberal' message or tone may have something to teach. It's important that you teach him how to parse this in a manner effective for separating the useful bits from the trash.

Keep up the good work!
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:02:51 PM EDT
The book is fairly boring, but it served a very useful purpose in getting the meat industry reformed. Shit, folks fell into the meat vats and they went ahead and processed the meat back then, real life Soylent Green incidents.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:13:49 PM EDT
I have read the book several times and didn't see it as very socialist. It does hammer the meat packing industry of the 1800's and expose a lot of the corruption and exploitation of immigrants therin.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:21:03 PM EDT
Wait until he gets to 1984.. suggest that he brings up "man, this must be the Liberal paradise! Total control and no self-protection for the people! They even have a thought crime division!"
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:32:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By leelaw:
Wait until he gets to 1984.. suggest that he brings up "man, this must be the Liberal paradise! Total control and no self-protection for the people! They even have a thought crime division!"



His futurepredict is a sadtruth.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 8:34:35 PM EDT
I did read 1984.

Another one I want to read because I heard it is quite prophetic for the 50's is The Naked Communist.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:03:40 PM EDT
It IS a socialist text. Upton Sinclair was a socialist for life.

Of this book he said "I aimed for America's heart and hit its stomach". So it reformed the meat packing industry? I guess those of you who read it are forgetting the part where the SOCIALIST party becomes the saviour of the book's hero.

It's pretty damn overtly socialist I'd say, considering that the socialist party is pushed as a bunch of saints.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:08:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BridgerNY:
It IS a socialist text. Upton Sinclair was a socialist for life.

Of this book he said "I aimed for America's heart and hit its stomach". So it reformed the meat packing industry? I guess those of you who read it are forgetting the part where the SOCIALIST party becomes the saviour of the book's hero.

It's pretty damn overtly socialist I'd say, considering that the socialist party is pushed as a bunch of saints.



Who gives a damn? It served a very important purpose.

But I guess you'd rather trust the corporate guys to provide you with good clean food.
Link Posted: 9/12/2005 9:35:57 PM EDT
I read it for school several years back.

Its an intersting book in the depictions of life during those times, however the whole part about how communism saves the day is obviously mere fantasy.

I do love the fact how the book failed to get its message across.

The author wanted people to read the book and think to themselves how evil capitalism is and how great socialism is.

Instead people who read it said, OMGWTF is wrong with the meat packing industry, and thus laws were changed to regulate it.

LOL stupid socialists.
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 8:42:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 8:44:23 AM EDT by BridgerNY]

Originally Posted By Burley:

Originally Posted By BridgerNY:
It IS a socialist text. Upton Sinclair was a socialist for life.

Of this book he said "I aimed for America's heart and hit its stomach". So it reformed the meat packing industry? I guess those of you who read it are forgetting the part where the SOCIALIST party becomes the saviour of the book's hero.

It's pretty damn overtly socialist I'd say, considering that the socialist party is pushed as a bunch of saints.



Who gives a damn? It served a very important purpose.

But I guess you'd rather trust the corporate guys to provide you with good clean food.



But the meat packing stuff wasn't the books purpose at all. Besides, I like to kill my own meat
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 8:45:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/13/2005 8:45:58 AM EDT by HELOBRAVO]
KNOW YOUR ENEMY!
Link Posted: 9/13/2005 8:47:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Burley:

Originally Posted By BridgerNY:
It IS a socialist text. Upton Sinclair was a socialist for life.

Of this book he said "I aimed for America's heart and hit its stomach". So it reformed the meat packing industry? I guess those of you who read it are forgetting the part where the SOCIALIST party becomes the saviour of the book's hero.

It's pretty damn overtly socialist I'd say, considering that the socialist party is pushed as a bunch of saints.



Who gives a damn? It served a very important purpose.

But I guess you'd rather trust the corporate guys to provide you with good clean food.



Exactly.

There are some industries that need to be regulated.
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