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Posted: 8/30/2015 11:09:51 AM EDT
Entire sections of the city were closed off due to madness, organized crime ran rampant, and the majority of important city officials were wildly corrupt. The city even tolerated a renegade vigilante who ran around wearing a rubber suit (Okay, special armor and carbon fiber, but they don’t know that).

Along comes the Joker and by the end of a very short time, almost all organized crime was eliminated, many corrupt officials were imprisoned or dead, and the city’s Vigilante even went into hiding for 8 years. This was all part of Joker’s masterfully executed plan.
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http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Dark-Knight-Fan-Theory-Puts-Joker-Hero-It-Kind-Works-79887.html

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:11:14 AM EDT
Lol, and then there were dollars from heaven raining down on the poor huddled masses.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:11:34 AM EDT
The Empire were the good guys, too.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:11:57 AM EDT
That Joker wanted to see the world burn.

I'm not sure why they want to call him the hero.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 11:22:11 AM EDT
So, it's like Iraq, except in reverse?

Saddam was an evil asshole but he kept that shithole in check.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 1:20:01 PM EDT
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Lol, and then there were dollars from heaven raining down on the poor huddled masses.
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Link Posted: 8/30/2015 6:56:05 PM EDT
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That's less of a stretch, IMO.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:01:45 PM EDT
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yep
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:17:20 PM EDT
Yeah, we've seen that article before, and the author is still an idiot who selectively ignores a lot of other stuff that happened in the movie.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:19:25 PM EDT
lol
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:22:03 PM EDT
Palpatine/ Empire were good guys
*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:24:08 PM EDT
Sounds like communist propaganda to me, pal.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:25:31 PM EDT
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And original Dark Night series comic Joker was in.

He was never regarded as any kind of hero, except by other bad guys, first page incident makes sure of that, but, treatment of Batman is pretty spot on, he was considered a whacked out mental case in that series of comics.

Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:25:32 PM EDT
Look at Vegas during the years the Mob ran it, compared to how it's run today.  
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:27:34 PM EDT
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Palpatine/ Empire were good guys
*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy
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If you look at the EU post-ROTJ, it's pretty much reads like a monarchist's dream come true.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:28:42 PM EDT

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Palpatine/ Empire were good guys

*Employed millions in construction jobs and military

*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die

*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs

*Ended a destructive war

*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.

*stabilized an entire galaxy
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They left out the part where the Sith was secretly behind the war

 
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Palpatine/ Empire were good guys
*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy
They left out the part where the Sith was secretly behind the war  

Sidious was "behind" the federation but they funded and fought the war for monetary reasons right?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:36:16 PM EDT
No, but Lando was the real hero of Star Wars.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 7:37:20 PM EDT


History is written by the victors.


Link Posted: 8/30/2015 9:50:16 PM EDT
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The article in the OP was posted yesterday. I did a 30 day search for 'Joker,' 'Batman,' and 'Dark Knight' and it wasn't there.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:18:45 PM EDT
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Palpatine/ Empire were good guys
*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy
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Some say he did it to fight the Yuuzhan Vong.  It makes sense too since he was always obsessed with super-weapons - The Vong ships were generally quite powerful.
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Some say he did it to fight the Yuuzhan Vong.  It makes sense too since he was always obsessed with super-weapons - The Vong ships were generally quite powerful.
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*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy

Some say he did it to fight the Yuuzhan Vong.  It makes sense too since he was always obsessed with super-weapons - The Vong ships were generally quite powerful.


The Vong ships were more powerful than the smaller star destroyers was my understanding. ..
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Yup

Rebel scum.
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The Vong ships were more powerful than the smaller star destroyers was my understanding. ..
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Palpatine/ Empire were good guys
*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy

Some say he did it to fight the Yuuzhan Vong.  It makes sense too since he was always obsessed with super-weapons - The Vong ships were generally quite powerful.


The Vong ships were more powerful than the smaller star destroyers was my understanding. ..


The Vong destroyers could be considered on par with an Imperial I-class SD, and were outgunned by an Imperial II-class SD.

The big threat that came from the Vong capital ships that had giant worms they could launch, though they were a one use only weapon. Generally they were carried on Worldships and Battle-Spires, though, so not to many of them, fortunately.

And the biggest threat were the Worldships, each one of them housing a Vong Clan. That is the big reason that Palpatine and the ruling Imperials wanted stuff like the Death Star so badly.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:46:18 PM EDT
The streets got cleaned up because of Harvey Dent, not the Joker. Dent stood up to the corruption.
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:49:49 PM EDT
"I'm an agent of chaos. And you know the thing about chaos is....it's fair."
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:50:37 PM EDT
How did we go from batman to starwars?
Link Posted: 8/30/2015 10:56:09 PM EDT
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By the ADHD magic that is GD.
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yep
Fuck and No



 
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the Jedi were for the galactic empire before they were against it
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Palpatine/ Empire were good guys
*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy
They left out the part where the Sith was secretly behind the war  

Sidious was "behind" the federation but they funded and fought the war for monetary reasons right?

Sidious manipulated the federation and separatists into a war footing and into creating a large combined droid army, and fashioned their leaders.
Sidious at the same time set forth the creation of the clone army and the enabbling acts to allow its official position while manipulating its leaders.

Sidious created and directed both sides of a horrific war.

Fuck Sidious.
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The Vong destroyers could be considered on par with an Imperial I-class SD, and were outgunned by an Imperial II-class SD.

The big threat that came from the Vong capital ships that had giant worms they could launch, though they were a one use only weapon. Generally they were carried on Worldships and Battle-Spires, though, so not to many of them, fortunately.

And the biggest threat were the Worldships, each one of them housing a Vong Clan. That is the big reason that Palpatine and the ruling Imperials wanted stuff like the Death Star so badly.
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Palpatine/ Empire were good guys
*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy

Some say he did it to fight the Yuuzhan Vong.  It makes sense too since he was always obsessed with super-weapons - The Vong ships were generally quite powerful.


The Vong ships were more powerful than the smaller star destroyers was my understanding. ..


The Vong destroyers could be considered on par with an Imperial I-class SD, and were outgunned by an Imperial II-class SD.

The big threat that came from the Vong capital ships that had giant worms they could launch, though they were a one use only weapon. Generally they were carried on Worldships and Battle-Spires, though, so not to many of them, fortunately.

And the biggest threat were the Worldships, each one of them housing a Vong Clan. That is the big reason that Palpatine and the ruling Imperials wanted stuff like the Death Star so badly.



Book name please...  
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Sidious manipulated the federation and separatists into a war footing and into creating a large combined droid army, and fashioned their leaders.
Sidious at the same time set forth the creation of the clone army and the enabbling acts to allow its official position while manipulating its leaders.

Sidious created and directed both sides of a horrific war.

Fuck Sidious.
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Palpatine/ Empire were good guys
*Employed millions in construction jobs and military
*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy
They left out the part where the Sith was secretly behind the war  

Sidious was "behind" the federation but they funded and fought the war for monetary reasons right?

Sidious manipulated the federation and separatists into a war footing and into creating a large combined droid army, and fashioned their leaders.
Sidious at the same time set forth the creation of the clone army and the enabbling acts to allow its official position while manipulating its leaders.

Sidious created and directed both sides of a horrific war.

Fuck Sidious.

some people just want to see the galaxy burn
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The Republic's fucktardness can be equally to blame as well.

For a society supposedly based off of the Roman Republic, you'd think those guys would have dedicated more resources to at least organize a paramilitary force to defend itself, or better yet actually have a professional military.

But no, they outsourced their primary duty to a bunch of mysterious mages, whose numbers were so few that they could not adequately defend all of the Republic. Instead, they focused on going full blown socialism, creating a serious wealth gap between the Core Worlds and the Rim Worlds.

And as another result of not having a military, the mega-corporations got to boss them around, even gaining Senate seats and manipulating events in their favor.
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The New Jedi Order series.

Or as I like to call it, Game of Thrones in space, because it took Star Wars in a very dark direction (the Vong being an analogue to the Huns), and that many characters that you care about or will care about either end up dead, crazy, or shell-shocked.
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Everything was going great too, until that religious fanatic from the desert, listening to voices in his head, came along and blew up the Emperor, along with millions of civilian construction workers.
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So who wins Star Wars-Star Wars-batman?

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There can only be one sifi winner

(You have to go more than one season before being cancelled to be a contender)
Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:41:28 AM EDT
For anyone that ever wondered how much money was in that huge hill of cash the Joker burned.



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Link Posted: 8/31/2015 10:54:40 AM EDT
It can all be summed up succinctly by a great man...

Bad is good, and good is dumb...

Thank you Dark Helmet....
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*Saved Anikin's life when Jedi left him to die
*Standardized ship designs over ugly confederation designs
*Ended a destructive war
*Busted up a religious sect that took young children and indoctrinated them.
*stabilized an entire galaxy
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*Oppressed the shit out of the stabilized galaxy.



Some people think the Alliance were the good guys in Firefly too.
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The article in the OP was posted yesterday. I did a 30 day search for 'Joker,' 'Batman,' and 'Dark Knight' and it wasn't there.
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Yeah, we've seen that article before, and the author is still an idiot who selectively ignores a lot of other stuff that happened in the movie.

The article in the OP was posted yesterday. I did a 30 day search for 'Joker,' 'Batman,' and 'Dark Knight' and it wasn't there.


Maybe shade_1313 is talking about this?
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1749678_That_Awkward_Moment_When_You_Realize_Heath_Ledger_s_Joker_Was_The_Hero.html
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