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Posted: 3/13/2011 6:05:01 PM EST
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:07:32 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


Do you really care? I mean seriously are you that bored in life to care about that?

Jesus fuck.

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Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:09:08 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:10:26 PM EST by LazarusLong]
I think they meant *natural* disaster, killer.

But don't let that stop an opportunity to rant about something completely irrelevant and idiotic.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:09:18 PM EST
i take it your earlier thread about this didnt go so well.. that you had to start another one??
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:10:28 PM EST
Another one?
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:10:48 PM EST
Even if they started it, WWII was a disaster for them in the end.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:10:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


I didnt take it that way, although historically the Japanese have had trouble when it comes to assignment of blame for WW2.

Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:11:21 PM EST
Somebody seems to have 'issues'.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:11:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


He said crisis. War is a crisis. My grandfather killed Japs in the Pacific and I would venture to say that even he would call you a dipshit.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:11:39 PM EST
Here we go again.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:11:39 PM EST
no matter who started it getting nuked is a disaster.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:11:48 PM EST

Originally Posted By m00ler03:
i take it your earlier thread about this didnt go so well.. that you had to start another one??

yep. i was right..

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1161434

give it up... ibtl
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:12:06 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?




Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:12:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


Logic Fail. . .
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:12:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:14:04 PM EST by tc2k11]
Getting 2 nukes dropped on you is a disaster, no matter how you look at it.

ETA: I'm guessing you're going to get "flammed" in this thread, too.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:12:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:13:40 PM EST by armoredsaint]
Tag for the ShitStorm.

OP you win dumbass post of the weekend award, congrats on an another lock.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:12:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


Why yes, they are.

Unlike Germany, Japan has never really accepted blame or even came to terms with how fucking evil they were.

Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:12:55 PM EST
World War II didn't go real well for them. I'd say it was a disaster.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:13:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


I didnt take it that way, although historically the Japanese have had trouble when it comes to assignment of blame for WW2.



My point exactly. WWII could have been avoided (by them) , to make any comparisons to their current situation is ridiculous.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:15:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:16:10 PM EST by LazarusLong]

Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


I didnt take it that way, although historically the Japanese have had trouble when it comes to assignment of blame for WW2.

Everybody that starts a war which they lose play it down.. Think German schoolbooks mention much about marching Jews to the gas chambers? It's human nature to apply "outta sight, outta mind" as rigorously as possible. This conflicts with learning from history in a lot of cases.. Not much to be done about it.

Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:15:07 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


I didnt take it that way, although historically the Japanese have had trouble when it comes to assignment of blame for WW2.



My point exactly. WWII could have been avoided (by them) , to make any comparisons to their current situation is ridiculous.


That could be debatable.

Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:15:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By Loki41872:
World War II didn't go real well for them. I'd say it was a disaster.


Of their own making, an earthquake is not something they can control.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:15:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:16:48 PM EST by ArmyInfantryVet]
Does it matter at this point? This is terrible what is going on.

I don't believe in punishing future generations for the sins of their fathers.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:15:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By Element94:
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


I didnt take it that way, although historically the Japanese have had trouble when it comes to assignment of blame for WW2.



My point exactly. WWII could have been avoided (by them) , to make any comparisons to their current situation is ridiculous.


No, they could not have avoided WWII.

Based on how they developed, they HAD to attack us. That does not excuse what they did, but it does explain it.

Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:16:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By Loki41872:
World War II didn't go real well for them. I'd say it was a disaster.


Yup. Not sure how else they could have phrase this.

"Worst disaster we didn't invite on ourselves" might make the GD crowd happy, but seems a bit forced.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:16:32 PM EST
No. They are saying WWII was horrible for them and this tsunami/quake combo is even worse.

It is a simple comparison.

You know, kind of like calling someone dumber than a rock.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:16:34 PM EST
Try this one out Kissinger.

Even though they started it, it was a disaster by any measure.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:18:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Does it matter at this point? This is terrible what is going on.

I don't believe in punishing future generations for the sins of their fathers.


Yes it is terrible, I agree, but one was avoidable, the other not.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:23:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:25:15 PM EST by bdub]

Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:
Does it matter at this point? This is terrible what is going on.

I don't believe in punishing future generations for the sins of their fathers.


Yes it is terrible, I agree, but one was avoidable, the other not.

Nobody is denying that WWII was their (Imperial Japan - Not the modern Japanese state that was hit this last week by a massive disaster not of their making) fault. What we are questioning is your unending desire to bring it up.

Essentially, it is like getting all worked up over your mother for any accident that might befall to you because she caused you to happen upon this earth.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:25:55 PM EST
what a jerk.

Geesh.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:26:13 PM EST
I wish I had the money to go out and buy a brand new Japanese car to support the poor souls who are suffering and to piss of a certain demographic here.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:28:31 PM EST
Reading is fundamental.

* News
* World news
* Japan earthquake and tsunami

Earthquake and tsunami 'Japan's worst crisis since second world war'

Prime minister Naoto Kan speaks as Japanese struggle to avert nuclear disaster and police say death toll could top 10,000


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/13/japan-crisis-worst-since-second-world-war
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:29:47 PM EST
WTF? Has our drinking water been spiked? Are you trying to get banned? Like the mods don't already have enough to do on this site. Sheesh. Give it a rest & donate to the relief fund.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:30:03 PM EST
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
since WWII. WTF? Are they implying that they weren't responsible for it? That they didn't start the war in the Pacific? That they weren't the aggressors? That the war was disaster that was just foisted on them?


How do you get that from what was said? They're simply saying its the worst national disaster since the war; nothing more.

You're reading into it.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:30:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
no matter who started it getting nuked is a disaster.

A good old fashioned Lemay firestorm fits the bill as well.

This earthquake / tsunami is the most destruction they've seen since WWII.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:30:43 PM EST
Yes, the Japanese started the war with us. And with China, and Russia.

And they paid for it in blood, and have the "honor" of being the only nation in history to recieve canned sunshine in anger. Twice.

WE started war with England. Twice. They seem to have forgiven us for that, and are our best allies (despite what Obama thinks).

WWII is over. They started it, and we kicked their teeth down their throat. They are our best allies in the Pacific now. Don't hate on 'em, pray for them.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:31:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:32:25 PM EST by bdub]

Originally Posted By Intune69:
WTF? Has our drinking water been spiked? Are you trying to get banned? Like the mods don't already have enough to do on this site. Sheesh. Give it a rest & donate to the relief fund.

Haven't you heard, helping innocent people struck by unimaginable tragedy 70+ years after the war is the same as bombing pearl harbor yourself.

*even sarcastically, it is hard for me to process the logic of user AlvinYork*


Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:31:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
I wish I had the money to go out and buy a brand new Japanese car to support the poor souls who are suffering and to piss of a certain demographic here.


Off.

Piss Off.

As in, "Piss off, you fucking Grammar Nazi".

Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:32:35 PM EST
Originally Posted By victorgonzales:
no matter who started it getting nuked is a disaster.


LOL

Sigline material right there.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:32:53 PM EST
Originally Posted By Loki41872:
Yes, the Japanese started the war with us. And with China, and Russia.

And they paid for it in blood, and have the "honor" of being the only nation in history to recieve canned sunshine in anger. Twice.

WE started war with England. Twice. They seem to have forgiven us for that, and are our best allies (despite what Obama thinks).

WWII is over. They started it, and we kicked their teeth down their throat. They are our best allies in the Pacific now. Don't hate on 'em, pray for them.


Well said.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:33:22 PM EST
It was a disaster, one that they started. Fuck it if the got a couple nukes dropped on their ass. They deserved it in the end. Do you know what they did to chinese civilians during the war? it wasn't pretty
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:35:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/13/2011 6:38:52 PM EST by bdub]

Originally Posted By readytorock556:
It was a disaster, one that they started. Fuck it if the got a couple nukes dropped on their ass. They deserved it in the end. Do you know what they did to chinese civilians during the war? it wasn't pretty

I think you missed the adult discussion in the room.

Tsunami/Earthquake last week is not at all related to WWII...

Also, when you say "they deserved it" are you talking about the 150,000 civilians or somebody else?
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:36:14 PM EST
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Originally Posted By HiramRanger:
I wish I had the money to go out and buy a brand new Japanese car to support the poor souls who are suffering and to piss of a certain demographic here.


Off.

Piss Off.

As in, "Piss off, you fucking Grammar Nazi".



Thanks, appreciate your attention to detail
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:39:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:39:47 PM EST
Originally Posted By bdub:

Originally Posted By readytorock556:
It was a disaster, one that they started. Fuck it if the got a couple nukes dropped on their ass. They deserved it in the end. Do you know what they did to chinese civilians during the war? it wasn't pretty

I think you missed the adult discussion in the room.

Tsunami/Earthquake last week is not at all related to WWII...



Whatever. I'm not really concerned over Japan. Wait till we get ours...

Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:41:10 PM EST
This thread worst disaster since WW2.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:42:40 PM EST
People who think Japan deserved this in any way, shape, or form can fellate a weed whacker.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:43:22 PM EST
IOOBTL

In on one before the lock.
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:45:11 PM EST

Originally Posted By Element94:
This thread worst disaster since WW2.


+1 IBTL. Beat that dead horse. You don't think the citizens of Japan have suffered enough?
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:47:49 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/13/2011 6:49:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By numberofthebeast:
People who think Japan deserved this in any way, shape, or form can fellate a weed whacker.


Nobody is saying a bunch of racist, porn loving, immoral, oversexed higher than thou country deserved anything. 2012 is on the way and the supermoon did it. Trust me God had nothing to do with this. Now I'm going to go watch Dave Chapelle's Rick James episode. Fuck my couch...

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