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Posted: 9/8/2004 4:32:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 4:55:28 PM EST by ms_international]
The Irony - I have to stir the pot...

Here I was driving down the main road in our town, when I stopped at a red light right behind a delivery van. The van was pretty dirty/dusty with support our troops magnet on the back amongst other stickers identifying the driver as a Marine or former Marine.

In the dust was written:
“I hate Kerry”
“Edwards Sucks”
“Death to Islam”

…this made me think and then giggle at the irony. Besides the fact that some radical Islam followers have attached attacked us, why are we so against the followers of Islam?

Their prophet recognizes “our Christian Prophet & God” and doesn’t teach hatred against. Yet we support the folks/followers that according to the Bible was at fault for crucifying the son of “our” God - Co-indecently the same people who seem to not want to play nice with the followers of the Islam. The Arabs, perhaps hate us because we support the people who are convicted of killing the son of “our” God – nature doesn’t like contradictions – so maybe that union is against Nature???

Ironically, some American Citizens have converted to Islam – mostly minorities – who in turn support the Liberal Democrats, again another contradiction. How can one be a true Muslim and support Liberals/Democrats who in turn support the Jews?

Hmmm, before you go and hound me for speaking my mind, I am not a Muslim or Jew or anything – just a very proud, patriotic, American.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:35:27 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:36:40 PM EST
This will get interesting.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:37:03 PM EST
AGNTSA.

SG
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:39:28 PM EST
Popcorn, check.

Beer, check.

Ok, Goooooooooooooooo!
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:41:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar10er:
Popcorn, check.

Beer, check.

Ok, Goooooooooooooooo!



+1
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:41:36 PM EST
Maybe it's because Jews don't go around killing people in the name of Judism and Christians don't go around killing people in the name of our God or Christianity but these terrorist go around killing people in the name of Allah and Islam. I'm not saying that all Muslims believe this way, just that the ones that are gaining attention do, and I don't here a huge outcry from the rest of them. I think this is where the mindset comes from.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:43:40 PM EST


Oh my...newbie and controversial. Slow day?
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:44:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 4:45:33 PM EST by Airwolf]
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:44:46 PM EST
He sounds like a good man.


Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:44:47 PM EST
If it were red haired, blue eyed guys named Sean, I would feel the same way.

The absense of any outrage by the "non-radical" muslim is telling, indeed.

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:45:15 PM EST
Might as well say it.

IBTL.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:45:15 PM EST
Hmmmm, Let me see:
Racism,
Religion,
Interpretation of religion,
Justification of the "war",
Politics,


Where's my level IIIA vest...



Quick.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:45:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 4:46:07 PM EST by Red_Beard]

Besides the fact that some radical Islam followers have attached us, why are we so against the followers of Islam?




that's a big fuggin "besides"


That's like someone saying, "besides the fact that this guy raped your sister, raped your brother, and killed your parents, ... what have you got against him?"
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:50:09 PM EST

Originally Posted By ms_international:
Besides the fact that some radical Islam followers have attached us, why are we so against the followers of Islam?



Why yes, it's true: "We" are "against" every follower of Islam, which is why we're currently in the process of trying to kill them all. Every last one of them, both here and abroad.

Whatever.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:52:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By ms_international:

Besides the fact that some radical Islam followers have attached us...



Odd, I feel no sense of attachment.

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:52:30 PM EST
Who me? Not even - I have been around for a while - perhaps not with this same name.

Originally Posted By NAKED-GUNMAN:


Oh my...newbie and controversial. Slow day?

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:54:24 PM EST

Ironically, some American Citizens have converted to Islam – mostly minorities – who in turn support the Liberal Democrats, again another contradiction. How can one be a true Muslim and support Liberals/Democrats


It is interesting that Islam, one of the most conservative religions in the world, finds numerous apologists and even converts among the liberal left. Lindh was from a very liberal family, he went to one of those goofy alternative high schools and everything, yet he turned to an extreme right wing ideology.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:56:24 PM EST
Hmm - just to think I was once banned here for pointing out a spelling mistake. Ironic isn't it?

Originally Posted By Moof:

Originally Posted By ms_international:

Besides the fact that some radical Islam followers have attached us...



Odd, I feel no sense of attachment.


Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:58:26 PM EST
ok, who's gonna take one for the team and kill this thread?


Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:58:55 PM EST
Darn Good Point!

Originally Posted By Red_Beard:

Besides the fact that some radical Islam followers have attached us, why are we so against the followers of Islam?




that's a big fuggin "besides"


That's like someone saying, "besides the fact that this guy raped your sister, raped your brother, and killed your parents, ... what have you got against him?"

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 4:59:54 PM EST
We need the big pic of the bunny and the pancake
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:08:30 PM EST
correction in red...


Originally Posted By 03shooter:
Maybe it's because Jews don't go around killing people in the name of Judism and Christians don't go around killing people in the name of our God or Christianity anymorebut these terrorist go around killing people in the name of Allah and Islam. I'm not saying that all Muslims believe this way, just that the ones that are gaining attention do, and I don't here a huge outcry from the rest of them. I think this is where the mindset comes from.

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:13:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By ms_international:
Hmmm, before you go and hound me for speaking my mind, I am not a Muslim or Jew or anything – just a very proud, patriotic, American.



those go together b/c......

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:15:18 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:20:15 PM EST

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
These sentiments come out of ignorance and fear. Much like the AWB, somepeople did bad things, and so the febble minds, who were somehow not capable of distinguishing the difference between t toll to be used, and the person using the tool, began to fear them and they were banned.



uh huh. just exactly how are we to know which followers of Islam are not the enemy?

Muslims get that this is a holy war. We appear a bit slow on the uptake.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:21:22 PM EST
The Gospel According to Piccolo prohibits doing anything detrimental to a person solely on the basis of their religion.



Period.

Just like some people that call themselves catholics and protestants butcher each other in Northern Ireland, it doesn't give me the right to chastise ALL Catholics and Protestants.


Ya actually have to DO something wrong to get punished, is the way I see it.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:21:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By ScaryGuy:
AGNTSA.

SG



If someone would tell me what that means, I might add a +1.

I've asked before and can't seem to get an answer. What does it mean?
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:22:28 PM EST
Why did I look at this thread?
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:26:16 PM EST
Ah Gezzz Not This Shit Again.



Originally Posted By Greenhorn:

Originally Posted By ScaryGuy:
AGNTSA.

SG



If someone would tell me what that means, I might add a +1.

I've asked before and can't seem to get an answer. What does it mean?

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:28:19 PM EST
Well Christians did the same thing many many years ago - crusades ring a bell?

Originally Posted By jtw2:

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
These sentiments come out of ignorance and fear. Much like the AWB, somepeople did bad things, and so the febble minds, who were somehow not capable of distinguishing the difference between t toll to be used, and the person using the tool, began to fear them and they were banned.



uh huh. just exactly how are we to know which followers of Islam are not the enemy?

Muslims get that this is a holy war. We appear a bit slow on the uptake.

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:29:43 PM EST
well if nothing else, the actions of radical Islamicists have opened everyone's eyes to just what a sleazy and untrustworthy bunch the French are, so next time you see that delivery van, hop out and write in the dust "Mangez moi Renault!"

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:31:36 PM EST
Don't you have something better to do.

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:32:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/8/2004 5:37:17 PM EST by ar10er]
We kicked their asses then, and hopefully we will do it again. That un-pc enough for you?



Originally Posted By ms_international:
Well Christians did the same thing many many years ago - crusades ring a bell?

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:34:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By ms_international:
Well Christians did the same thing many many years ago - crusades ring a bell?




Same thing huh?

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:35:01 PM EST
Do I sense a bit of hostility – easy boy!


Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
Don't you have something better to do.

usera.imagecave.com/mrclean4hire/GOLYE0042.jpg

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:37:10 PM EST
Overall I think "organized Religion" has done nothing but start wars.
....and as far as your comment goes, slaughtering people as they did then is maybe not the same but strikingly similar.


Originally Posted By Red_Beard:

Originally Posted By ms_international:
Well Christians did the same thing many many years ago - crusades ring a bell?




Same thing huh?


Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:37:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By ms_international:
Well Christians did the same thing many many years ago - crusades ring a bell?

Originally Posted By jtw2:

Originally Posted By Lightning_P38:
These sentiments come out of ignorance and fear. Much like the AWB, somepeople did bad things, and so the febble minds, who were somehow not capable of distinguishing the difference between t toll to be used, and the person using the tool, began to fear them and they were banned.



uh huh. just exactly how are we to know which followers of Islam are not the enemy?

Muslims get that this is a holy war. We appear a bit slow on the uptake.




yep, what's your point?
Remember who the Christians were fighting?
What makes you think they were wrong?

Muslims remember the crusades and - get ready for a shock - never really stopped fighting it. They lay low for periods of time when it suites their interests, but they have been engaged in holy war since the crusades. To ignore the fact that you're in a war virtually guarentees that you will lose said war.
Link Posted: 9/8/2004 5:40:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By ar10er:
Ah Gezzz Not This Shit Again.



What? Why shouldn't I ask what AGNTSA means? It's just an innocent question.

. . . Oh.

Link Posted: 9/8/2004 6:02:54 PM EST
It's not their religion I have a problem with; it's their method of delivering their message to non-believers.

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