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Posted: 5/22/2014 7:33:29 AM EDT
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:40:36 AM EDT
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Nice review.  Thanks as always.  Looks like a nice pocket gun.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:42:27 AM EDT
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I haven't shot that particular model a friend had a SCCY semi auto 9mm and it struck me as cheaply made. Something fell off while shooting I can't remember. I think it was the spring on the slide release. We had to use a metal detector to find it in the grass. Maybe they have fixed their issues.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:43:36 AM EDT
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i have a first gen that ive been meaning to send back to them. i contacted them and was told there are upgraded parts for it. i would rather have them exchange it for a gen two
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:45:20 AM EDT
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Thanks for that OP...looks a little nicer than the KelTec ....price is certainly right .
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:45:38 AM EDT
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My BIL has one and is very happy with it.  I shot it a couple of times and it seems nice for the money.  YMMV
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:47:35 AM EDT
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How do you think the trigger compares to the P11?
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:48:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:48:30 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:49:03 AM EDT
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Wow, thanks for doing this and posting it. I saw an ad for this gun in a gun rag recently and thought, "what the heck? Never heard of them...."

Now I know. Again, and as always, thanks.  
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:50:48 AM EDT
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I recently traded a ar lower and lpk parts kit  i had around $90 in for one. Its a gen 1 but like new ran with no problems a little snappy but not bad for a small gun. They also have a lifetime warranty. For a 10+1 gun its solid for the money imo.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:50:54 AM EDT
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FMJ Winchester was the only ammo tested, yes?
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:51:23 AM EDT
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I handled one and have to admit it seemed decent for the price.






Nice photos of the dimensions, OP.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:51:42 AM EDT
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Are these made in Turkey, O_P?

What I know about the brand could be written on a matchbook cover with a grease pencil in capital letters
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:54:31 AM EDT
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Thanks for that OP...looks a little nicer than the KelTec ....price is certainly right .




Yep, the price is what makes it interesting.







 



Thanks for the review, I have been looking at these in the adverts, but at that price it looked too good to be true.




It comes with a lifetime warranty and is made in the US, correct?






Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:54:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:55:03 AM EDT
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The outward appearance of the SCCY is remarkably similar to the P-11.  I've never heard anyone extol the virtues of the P-11 trigger, or any Kel-Tec trigger for that matter, so the SCCY seems like a better alternative to the P-11 for low priced polymer single stack 9.  Thanks for the review.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:55:25 AM EDT
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I'm curious about round count as well.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:56:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:56:46 AM EDT
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Interesting.  And thanks for the heads up on the UpLula, I find loading mags to be a bit of a chore, hopefully something like that will make it easier.

Thanks again O_P!
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:56:59 AM EDT
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A couple years back my LGS sold several 9mm SCCYs (can't recall the model but a bit bigger than the one the OP tried) and every damn one of them came back with issues....No thanks....First impressions and all that.  I'll muddle through with my P-11.

Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:57:22 AM EDT
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It looks decent for the price.  Almost a "why not"? at that price. Buy it, try a few hundred rounds through it and keep it or sell it if it doesn't suit you for a tiny loss.



Great review as always, O_P.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:57:42 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:58:39 AM EDT
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A friend of the Box O Truth recently sent me a note and asked if I had ever tried a pistol called the SCCY Model CPX2, which is a small 9mm pistol.  I was not familiar with it, but I connected with the fine folks at SCCY Industries and they agreed to kindly send me a sample to evaluate.

I got the pistol yesterday.  Here it is in the box.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64306

It comes with two 10-round magazines, and each has a “finger groove” butt plate on the magazine.  

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64311

But both mags also have a flat butt plate in case the shooter would prefer this type of mag plate which can make a pistol a little easier to conceal.  They are easy to change out.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64319

The pistol also has a child-proof trigger lock with two keys.

It is a small pistol and only weighs 15 ounces.

I took it to the range this morning to try it out.  My buddy doc540 met me there to help me with the shoot.

We compared it to my KelTec P-11 9mm pistol.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64313

It is very close in size and shape.  The slides are also very close in size.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64314

The CPX2 model which I tested does not have an external safety.  But their Model CPX1 has an external safety if desired.

The trigger is a long “revolver type” trigger pull.  It is not too heavy and pulls almost all the way to the back before the trigger breaks.  Some pistols with this type of trigger have a trigger that “loads up” and gets heavier and heavier as you pull it to the rear.  This one is nice and smooth and does not load up at all.  It makes the trigger seem like a double action revolver trigger.

The pistol fills up your hand just fine.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64309

There is plenty of room to get a good two-hand grip on the piece.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64308

Here I am running the pistol.  It shot to point of aim and was plenty accurate.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64307

I even let doc run it for a while.  He shot it just fine.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64312

The magazines were pretty stiff and I found it difficult to load more than 6 rounds in them, probably because the springs were so new and stiff.

But Steve had a magazine loader called an UpLULA loader.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64315

It enables you to press the top round down and load the next round without any problems.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64316

The mags loaded easily and the pistol ran without a single problem or failure.

When I got home I disassembled the pistol for cleaning.

You just lock back the slide and then use a screw driver to remove the take-down pin.  It came out without any problem.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64317

Then the pistol breaks down into these parts to allow cleaning.  Re-assembly is just the reverse.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64318

All in all, this seems to be a well-made and well-functioning pistol in a major caliber.

MSRP for this stainless model is only $339 and the carbon steel model is only $299.  Reports are that they can be found for even less if you look around.

If you are looking for a small pistol in 9mm, this one looks like a fine shooter.

http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=64310

Thanks to doc540 for the photo help.

It’s fun to shoot stuff.


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so it's a keltec p11, but it's $299, where the keltec is $249?
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 7:59:23 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:03:14 AM EDT
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Just a slight correction.......The mags are not single stack.  

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The outward appearance of the SCCY is remarkably similar to the P-11.  I've never heard anyone extol the virtues of the P-11 trigger, or any Kel-Tec trigger for that matter, so the SCCY seems like a better alternative to the P-11 for low priced polymer single stack 9.  Thanks for the review.


Just a slight correction.......The mags are not single stack.  



Ah.  Thanks!
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:04:16 AM EDT
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They suggest factory ammo and the Winchester White Box was what I had on hand.  But I also ran some truncated cone frangible 9mm ammo that I had loaded just to see if it would feed the blunt-nosed ammo.  It ran it just fine.
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FMJ Winchester was the only ammo tested, yes?


They suggest factory ammo and the Winchester White Box was what I had on hand.  But I also ran some truncated cone frangible 9mm ammo that I had loaded just to see if it would feed the blunt-nosed ammo.  It ran it just fine.


Got it.  

I'd be interested in reliability with Gold Dot and HST as the gun is likely to appeal more as a defensive piece than a range toy.

ETA: not asking YOU to test it with this ammo, of course; just thinking outloud.  
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:04:40 AM EDT
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Long story short the guys at sccy used to work for keltech and basically jacked most of the design of the p11. The 1st gen many had issues but all those problems were fixed in the 2nd gens if you have a 1st (or 2nd) gen it has a lt warranty you can send it in to get fixed for free.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:05:56 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:08:53 AM EDT
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Thanks for the test.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:09:42 AM EDT
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No, it is not a P-11.  It is different.  And has a better trigger.

And can be found for around $250.

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so it's a keltec p11, but it's $299, where the keltec is $249?


No, it is not a P-11.  It is different.  And has a better trigger.

And can be found for around $250.



Can it use S&W 59 pattern mags like the Kel-Tec can?
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:10:59 AM EDT
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Interesting.  And thanks for the heads up on the UpLula, I find loading mags to be a bit of a chore, hopefully something like that will make it easier.

Thanks again O_P!
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Did you finally buy a gun?
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:11:23 AM EDT
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I can't speak to that, as I do not have the time or the ammo to run it long enough to test high round count.

It ran fine today.

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I'm curious about round count as well.


I can't speak to that, as I do not have the time or the ammo to run it long enough to test high round count.

It ran fine today.



Could you call in some local support?

I haven't heard of anyone really putting some miles on one of those.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:12:21 AM EDT
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Meh. I shot my friend's a few months ago. He has the manual safety one (I tried to talk him out of it). I found the grip to be ok and beefy enough to hold onto, but the little thing snapped something fierce, the plastic molding around the manual safety bit into my thumb (may be my high grip), and it just felt cheap. I wouldn't buy one personally, but I guess if that's the limit of your budget, it's better than nothing.

Nice write-up, though. Thanks.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:13:31 AM EDT
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Did you finally buy a gun?
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Interesting.  And thanks for the heads up on the UpLula, I find loading mags to be a bit of a chore, hopefully something like that will make it easier.

Thanks again O_P!


Did you finally buy a gun?

No, but I've been shooting.

And I'm also evaluating options.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:25:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:38:34 AM EDT
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So if you had to choose which one to own and carry every day which one would it be??  The Keltec or the test gun??
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:38:59 AM EDT
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We've had several in stock for a while, they don't seem to sell AT ALL around here.

I have tested one as well, my findings were consistent with OP

The trigger pull is LOOOONG, and that is what scares most people off, once you shoot a mag or 2 it doesn't seem to bad

I can hit a 4" sq plate at 7 yards, 8 outa 10 shots.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:46:10 AM EDT
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Nope, made in the good old USA.

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Are these made in Turkey, O_P?



Nope, made in the good old USA.




Daytona Beach Florida IIRCC
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:49:56 AM EDT
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I haven't shot that particular model a friend had a SCCY semi auto 9mm and it struck me as cheaply made. Something fell off while shooting I can't remember. I think it was the spring on the slide release. We had to use a metal detector to find it in the grass. Maybe they have fixed their issues.
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We quit selling them as they seem to just fall apart and or break parts  after awhile


Their warranty is decent but you will use it



maybe the 2nd gen guns are better but we still won't stock um





 
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:54:54 AM EDT
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We quit selling them as they seem to just fall apart and or break parts  after awhile
Their warranty is decent but you will use it

maybe the 2nd gen guns are better but we still won't stock um
 
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I haven't shot that particular model a friend had a SCCY semi auto 9mm and it struck me as cheaply made. Something fell off while shooting I can't remember. I think it was the spring on the slide release. We had to use a metal detector to find it in the grass. Maybe they have fixed their issues.
We quit selling them as they seem to just fall apart and or break parts  after awhile
Their warranty is decent but you will use it

maybe the 2nd gen guns are better but we still won't stock um
 


I've run maybe 500 rounds thru my P11 with no issues. I also like the 12 round mags for the P11
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 8:54:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/22/2014 9:14:38 AM EDT
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SCCY's grip is more substantial than the KT.

The KT's flat grip profile seems to make it a bit more concealable in a pocket.

Having said that, the SCCY's larger grip helped me hold it better under recoil.

Even with GT's (Geezer Trifocals) I could see the sights clearly, and it shoots accurately at PD ranges.  

Didn't get a chance to shoot it out to 50.

For $250, it seems like a nice little piece.

Thanks for the invite O_P, shooting things is a great way to start the morning.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 9:53:09 AM EDT
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Do you know the weight of the gun with an empty magazine??

Also,that gun range gave me a deja vu.
I *think* I may have been there??
Can you give where it is located?
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 9:56:25 AM EDT
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Ahh, the Sccy... I had one back when they were SKYY.  One of the very few guns I've sold off and had no regret.   Obviously their newer iterations have gotten better.
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 10:09:42 AM EDT
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So the criteria for liking this pistol..

They sent one....

You compared it to a Keltec...

You shot a few boxes thru it...

it worked....

Am I missing anything?

You could do the same with a Lorcin and pretty much get the same results...


Yea, I know, I could do my own, but your the one who reviewed it, and you made a recommendation...





Link Posted: 5/22/2014 10:18:18 AM EDT
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So the criteria for liking this pistol..



They sent one....



You compared it to a Keltec...



You shot a few boxes thru it...



it worked....



Am I missing anything?



You could do the same with a Lorcin and pretty much get the same results...





Yea, I know, I could do my own, but your the one who reviewed it, and you made a recommendation...
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That's a lot more than some of the other pocket pistols on the market have done when they came out and about all a little SD gun needs to do.



 
Link Posted: 5/22/2014 10:19:39 AM EDT
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So the criteria for liking this pistol..

They sent one....

You compared it to a Keltec...

You shot a few boxes thru it...

it worked....

Am I missing anything?

You could do the same with a Lorcin and pretty much get the same results...


Yea, I know, I could do my own, but your the one who reviewed it, and you made a recommendation...

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Yeah, that was the criteria for liking it.  Look man, not everyone had $500 to spend on a pistol.  It is nice to get some sort of review for guns like this, even if they are anecdotal.  It beats nothing.

I don't see Old-Painless saying this is the best buy one can make for a small 9mm.  He just said it worked for him.  Maybe try not to read so much between the lines that isn't there next time?

By the way, you COULD do your own review, but I don't know who the fuck you are.  I put a lot more stock in O_P's assessment than yours.
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