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Posted: 1/19/2015 9:42:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 1/19/2015 9:43:15 PM EST by Commando223]



Packaging of a 2006 consignment traced by researchers showed that a batch of more than 25,000 Type 82.-2 grenades was manufactured in China

The grenades come from China, or Bulgaria. The mortars are Sudanese. The rocket launchers were made in Iran. The bullets are British, or Belgian or Czech. Spain and Cameroon provided the shotgun rounds. And so it goes on.

A detailed survey of the weapons currently circulating in the Central African Republic (CAR) offers some intriguing insights into the global arms industry, and the extent to which its output continues to find its way - legally or otherwise - into the hands of rebel armies.

The impact of the weapons trade can be lasting and devastating.

When arms were obtained by the Seleka - a coalition of largely Muslim insurgents that swept to power in CAR in 2013 - a civil war was triggered that went on to displace hundreds of thousands of civilians.
'Small and easily concealed'

"Type 82-2 hand grenades are among the most widespread military item in CAR," says the report, compiled by Britain's Conflict Armament Research group, for the European Union.


The impact of the weapons trade can be lasting and devastating


The Central African Republic has been in turmoil since rebels seized power in March 2013

"They are so common that they reportedly can be bought for the equivalent of around $0.50-$1.00 (£0.33-£0.66) each, less than a bottle of Coca-Cola," the report says.

"Small and easily concealed, they have had a significant security impact, causing civilian injuries and deaths in Bangui and elsewhere throughout 2014."

One batch of more than 25,000 Type 82.-2 grenades was traced by researchers to a 2006 consignment, manufactured in China, and - according to the packaging - destined for the "Royal Nepalese Army Headquarters". The Nepalese army "insist they have never used grenades of this kind".
'Violation'

Some of the other weapons were looted from government arsenals. Others were smuggled, in the hands of foreign mercenaries, across porous borders. But many appear to have been flown into CAR by neighbouring states - including Sudan.


Armed men from rival groups in CAR have trawled many areas looting, killing, burning crops and homes

"The new 2013 shipments included at least two deliveries of weapons by air from Sudan to Bangui," said the report.

"In several cases, Chinese and (suspected) Iranian ammunition present in CAR appears to have been re-transferred from Sudan. In the case of China, this may violate end-user agreements between the governments of China and Sudan."

But it should be noted that Sudan's shipments came before a UN arms embargo was imposed on the Seleka at the end of 2013.

"Regardless of where the guns come from, the end result is clear: the Seleka, through their power grab, helped flood a region already overloaded with arms. They committed serious human rights abuses, including the killings of women and children," said Lewis Mudge from Human Rights Watch.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30880636
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:48:23 PM EST
No coke ,pepsi
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:48:24 PM EST
Would help with our obesity problem here in the US.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:49:53 PM EST
I'll trade them a case of coke for a case of grenades.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:50:13 PM EST
I don't drink Coke and I like explosives.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:52:39 PM EST
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QFT
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:53:40 PM EST

Yuri Orlov: There are over 550 million firearms in worldwide circulation. That's one firearm for every twelve people on the planet. The only question is: How do we arm the other 11?
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:54:45 PM EST
Lets be honest. Take away all those weapons and they'd still be killing each other with sharp sticks.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 9:59:26 PM EST
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Or Coke bottles.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:04:30 PM EST
The problem in Africa is not too many weapons rather too few

Every food shipment should also have a ak with 3 mags and a tin on 7.62x39 included for each precipitant
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:05:41 PM EST
Detroit.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:07:45 PM EST
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How much does a cactus cost?
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:09:26 PM EST
A free-fire zone at the crossroads of Africa. Sounds like a fun place.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:13:31 PM EST
If I could buy a grenade for $1.... I would have cases and cases of them for critters and such.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:15:09 PM EST
interesting a while ago I was watching a vice video about the fighting between Christians and Muslims in CAR

And they had shitty home made weapons and machetes.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:15:21 PM EST
The gods much be crazy...
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:15:33 PM EST
Wish we could get that here.
Imagine how awesome it must be to live in Africa ......
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:15:36 PM EST
Chinese made grenades would probably blow up if you tripped on the sidewalk.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:18:28 PM EST
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Good thing they don't have sidewalks.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:19:17 PM EST
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"They are so common that they reportedly can be bought for the equivalent of around $0.50-$1.00 (£0.33-£0.66) each, less than a bottle of Coca-Cola," the report says.
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Did everyone see the key word in the whole thing?

I report that you can buy a brand new Daniel Defense AR15 for $37.50 and for an extra $7.99 they with throw in 87 loaded PMags. Sure that's a load of crap. But now you can honestly say you read a report of it.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:21:44 PM EST
"Won't you gentlemen have a Pepsi?"
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:31:20 PM EST
Fifty cents? What's the average income in CAR?
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:38:12 PM EST
Meh, Africa. They act like them killing each other is something new.
Link Posted: 1/19/2015 10:50:39 PM EST
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Right? I think they taught the Muslims that trick.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:18:33 AM EST
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Good thing they don't have sidewalks.
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Originally Posted By Demosthenes99:
Chinese made grenades would probably blow up if you tripped on the sidewalk.


Good thing they don't have sidewalks.
My Vietnam war vet buddy told me that Chinese grenades tended to be duds or blow up with no delay.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:34:47 AM EST
I smell a group buy!
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:38:23 AM EST
That dude in the leaf green shirt or whatever the fuck that is, with the beret with the danglies, to fucking PUSH for not trimming that shit off, un-sat loser POS with his $0.50 grenades...
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:39:10 AM EST
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You so read my mind....

"Um, Mister, can I get a dozen or so of dem thar dupont sinkers"?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:41:30 AM EST
That guy looks like he came straight out of a movie.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:41:42 AM EST
Originally Posted By Commando223:

A detailed survey of the weapons currently circulating in the Central African Republic (CAR) offers some intriguing insights into the global arms industry, and the extent to which its output continues to find its way - legally or otherwise - into the hands of rebel armies.

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Well, no shit. That's how the arms trade has always worked. Hell, that's how all trade has always worked.

The CAR is an interesting little shithole that's rapidly getting more and more violent.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:42:04 AM EST
Does homeboy have his MAS36 held together with hose clamps?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:44:09 AM EST
If weapons are so prevalent, then why does Terrell Owens only have a bolt action with iron sights?

Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:44:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Demosthenes99:
Chinese made grenades would probably blow up if you tripped on the sidewalk.


Good thing they don't have sidewalks.
My Vietnam war vet buddy told me that Chinese grenades tended to be duds or blow up with no delay.


Seems like I read a story from an American fighting somewhere in Africa (Mogadishu maybe) that every grenade thrown at them ended up being duds.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:45:43 AM EST
This is why we can't have nice things.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:45:54 AM EST
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Note he has no grenades either.

50 cents must be hard to come by over there.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 12:46:43 AM EST
Sounds like heaven. 'Cept for the whole Africa thing.
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 1:07:32 AM EST
how much for those broken windshields..
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 4:47:21 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:15:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/20/2015 5:15:35 AM EST by cwm1150]
So do they have neckbeards hording all the grenades there? or the coke?
Link Posted: 1/20/2015 5:16:01 AM EST
HE made in China. Trustworthy for sure
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