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Posted: 8/2/2005 6:51:02 PM EDT
Forgive my military tactics ignorance, but how does it come about that 5 snipers get killed in a group at once? Does the report count supporting personel as "snipers", or have we in fact lost 6 snipers? (Referreing to a report by CNN of 5 sniper deaths as a group and a 6th close by.)
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:52:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OLO:
Forgive my military tactics ignorance, but how does it come about that 5 snipers get killed in a group at once? Does the report count supporting personel as "snipers", or have we in fact lost 6 snipers? (Referreing to a report by CNN of 5 sniper deaths as a group and a 6th close by.)




Yeah, that sucks!!!

Prayers sent.

Just think how many k's those six had
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:54:02 PM EDT
Mortar round and a lot of luck will get you. Unit was probably having some sort of pow-wow and a round with thier name came in.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 6:58:55 PM EDT
From my extremely limited knowledge of the field derived from Shooter by Gunnery Sgt. Coughlin USMC that report is difficult to believe. Coughlin, who is the Marine Corps's top ranked sniper generally worked with a small "support" team but was really the only sniper. His commanding officer generally served as his spotter and a few other guys kept the building they were working from secure. The book emphasizes the traditional importance of cover that not only concealed the snipers position but offered protection from enemy fire; after a few shots the sniper would find a new location such that his position was not “made” by the enemy. The main argument of the book was for the development of a mobile sniper strike force that would include a sniper, a spotter, a few “grunts” and a vehicle that would allow for rapid deployment to new positions rather than laying in wait for the enemy for hours of days unsupported.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:00:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OLO:
Forgive my military tactics ignorance, but how does it come about that 5 snipers get killed in a group at once? Does the report count supporting personel as "snipers", or have we in fact lost 6 snipers? (Referreing to a report by CNN of 5 sniper deaths as a group and a 6th close by.)



???? In the chow line, waiting to be picked up after surveilling an area, the old double cross, planned ambush based on prior sniper postings,.........................????

Snipers are great if they have concealment, and distance on thier targets. Sniper gear won't be as effective in CQB as a basic rifleman's gear................ Plus if that concealment is blown, or never attained.......
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:01:00 PM EDT
Thanks Ardenner. That's what I was thinking, and that makes more sense.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:02:04 PM EDT
Reported by CNN.... all you need to know. Don't count on accuracy from these folks.

Regardless, heroes lost.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:03:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DanishM1Garand:
Mortar round and a lot of luck will get you. Unit was probably having some sort of pow-wow and a round with thier name came in.



CNN reports small arms fire got them. Probably members of the Iraqi military or police.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:26:35 PM EDT
In Somalia all my Battalions snipers were wiped out by a clumsey LCpl who drove the Hummer they were riding in off a cliff.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:29:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By AR15fan:
In Somalia all my Battalions snipers were wiped out by a clumsey LCpl who drove the Hummer they were riding in off a cliff.



This was a set up.

IMO
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:31:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By panzersergeant:

Originally Posted By DanishM1Garand:
Mortar round and a lot of luck will get you. Unit was probably having some sort of pow-wow and a round with thier name came in.



CNN reports small arms fire got them. Probably members of the Iraqi military or police.



It does not appear to have been a mortar round, but treachery.
Link Posted: 8/2/2005 7:40:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/2/2005 7:40:19 PM EDT by 82ndAbn]
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=375746
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