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Posted: 2/8/2017 3:27:58 PM EDT

Here's something that always generates interest over here, possibly not least because we love a good old Commando raid, but also there's something about clandestine weapons.

Built around the action of a SMLE, they were rebarrelled in .45 ACP, had a shortened throw bolt and uses 1911 mags.
I believe there were only around 130 built during WW2, mainly for use knocking sentries over, but there have been countless replicas built since.
Some good, some not so good.

Here are some of the better ones.

A friend of mine wanted one, and we did a bit of searching. There's a few available for sale, but we also scored an ex Bahraini SMLE last week for £200 with the plan of converting it, however......

There is a company in Scotland called Shandwick Engineering, and they have been building and perfecting them for the last 20 years.
Their ones are the ones that all others are judged by.
I contacted them and enquired about converting the SMLE we have, but they said it would probably be cheaper to buy one of the ones they make, and in fact they have one ready to go, so they sent me some pics:
This is their Demo/display model

During the war, there was also a Paratrooper version built with a folding stock.
There was only one of these in existence and that is on display at the School of Infantry Museum in Warminster.
I'm lucky enough to have seen this

Shandwick were given access to it and have made an exact replica of it, which is now officially No2
Here it is

I enquired after it and it is for sale, however they are going to offer it for auction later this year at one of the major London auction houses.....so that probably rules me out!

That said, my friend was still after one, so tonight we ordered this beauty

Should be with me next week

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:30:27 PM EDT

[#1]

First I've heard of it. Coolest thing I've seen today. Thanks for sharing!

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:30:28 PM EDT

[#2]

I need both of those in my life. Right now.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:33:33 PM EDT

[#3]

That would be fun to own and shoot

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:34:35 PM EDT

[#4]

Is the integral suppressor real in the reproduction?

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:34:55 PM EDT

[#5]

Is the integral can functional?

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:35:18 PM EDT

[#6]

is that a Sterling stock? also, what kind of price range are we talking?

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:36:53 PM EDT

[#7]

How much?

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:38:00 PM EDT

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Yes it's fully functional

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:38:21 PM EDT

[#9]

I've shot my friend's replica several times. They are very neat, historically, but you can make something modern that is just as quiet, half the weight, and a quarter the price.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:38:44 PM EDT

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is that a Sterling stock? also, what kind of price range are we talking?

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It's Patchett stock, he designed the Sterling

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:40:46 PM EDT

[#11]

I have a #1MkIII that would be a perfect donor for such a project. However, I think I would like to set mine up with a mount for my .45-Octane. More of a tribute than a reproduction. I'll bet .45acp from a long barrel (longer than a pistol) and bolt-action would be really quiet.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:40:53 PM EDT

[#12]

One of my Grail guns.

Cool as all get out.

Spendy.

http://www.specialinterestarms.com/index.php?page=delisle

http://www.valkyriearms.com/delisle.html

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:42:05 PM EDT

[#13]

Dammit!!! Lemmee guess, photofucket? Tagged for home!

ETA: Just a side question - with Brexit and a new conservative PM, is there any chance the UK will move back to the center and common sense as far as firearms ownership is concerned?

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:43:24 PM EDT

[#14]

Those rifles, in my opinion, are one of the best things the human brain has ever come up with.

De Lisle Carbine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsUALdGog4U

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:43:31 PM EDT

[#15]

Some rare PEw PEws there.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:44:23 PM EDT

[#16]

What are UK suppressor laws like? Super cool gun btw!

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:44:38 PM EDT

[#17]

Very nice. The only sad bit to me was finding out that the 1911 mags it uses have to be modified to fit, as the mag release uses a catch in a spine welded on the back. I would imagine a modern stacked cone suppressor would be superior to the single spiral baffle of the original. Pretty awesome for the day, however. Needs an American M3 Sniper Scope w/ giant battery pack for the IR lamp fitted to it.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:46:11 PM EDT

[#18]

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First I've heard of it. Coolest thing I've seen today. Thanks for sharing!

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QFT

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:46:26 PM EDT

[#19]

I shot a replica one a few years back , it was very nice and very quiet

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:46:49 PM EDT

[#20]

Those are beautiful. Never seem the paratrooper version, that's amazing work.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:47:21 PM EDT

[#21]

Curious about the range adjustment on the sight; just how optimistic was the designer about accurate range for a suppressed .45 ACP?

ETA - Sorry, I missed that you have a close up of the range adjustment.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:52:32 PM EDT

[#22]

What are the legalities of owning one of these in the UK? Is it even possible if you are not affiliated with the government?

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:52:49 PM EDT

[#23]

looks like an extremely fun build if you had the skills to do it.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:55:42 PM EDT

[#24]

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What are UK suppressor laws like? Super cool gun btw!

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Unregulated.

The UK actually does things pretty intelligently, in terms of how firearms are tracked/controlled. They're far too restrictive, of course, but the controlled item is the barrel, and the regulated features are only those that actually relate to the gun's function. The "long handgun" thing is notoriously stupid as fuck, but that's one thing among many, whereas almost all of our laws are fucking retarded.

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:55:57 PM EDT

[#25]

I understand that the replicas we are able to acquire can have severe accuracy issues. How are those?

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:56:06 PM EDT

[#26]

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In this case it's integral so no extra authority is required

Posted: 2/8/2017 3:58:27 PM EDT

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They are said to be the best ones available

As long is it's Minute of Hydrant sign out to 200yds.....

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:00:01 PM EDT

[#28]

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I have a #1MkIII that would be a perfect donor for such a project. However, I think I would like to set mine up with a mount for my .45-Octane. More of a tribute than a reproduction. I'll bet .45acp from a long barrel (longer than a pistol) and bolt-action would be really quiet.

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Have you heard the integrally suppressed Ruger 77/357 conversions? They are supposed to be outstanding using .38 special.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:00:02 PM EDT

[#29]

A surplus vendor, here in the states had a few for sale in the late seventies. Just didn't have the money at the time. I believe it was Sarco. I don't remember if they were complete.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:02:05 PM EDT

[#30]

Looking good, Bradders!

I'm sure Nick is super-happy, but what's he going to do with my old SMLE now? :)

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:03:23 PM EDT

[#31]

Grail gun. Its so ugly that its beautiful.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:05:16 PM EDT

[#32]

That is gorgeous!

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:05:59 PM EDT

[#33]

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Looking good, Bradders!

I'm sure Nick is super-happy, but what's he going to do with my old SMLE now? :)

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I have plans for that after seeing the Lithgow Shortened and Lightened SMLE

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:06:55 PM EDT

[#34]

That's really cool. I have absolutely zero need for one but if I ever come into a bucket of money, I'll just have to have one.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:08:43 PM EDT

[#35]

Man, that is beautiful!

I first learned of the DeLisle in the mid to late seventies and have had a lust affair ever since.

After now reading the rest of the thread I'm now thinking I have a perfect candidate for a project. A couple years ago I picked up a Lithgow MklllNol. Unfortunately most of the bullets that actually hit an IDPA silhouette strike sideways. At twentyfive feet!

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:08:58 PM EDT

[#36]

Sweet Lord have Mercy!

A weapon I have long admired. I've shot the OSS suppressed M3 Grease Gun and High Standard .22 pistol, but that's a weapon I've never had access to.

Very nice.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:11:08 PM EDT

[#37]

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:11:43 PM EDT

[#38]

My favorite gun of WW2.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:15:55 PM EDT

[#39]

That's fucking awesome. I'd love to have a replica of a De Lisle.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:18:30 PM EDT

[#40]

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Dammit!!! Lemmee guess, photofucket? Tagged for home!

ETA: Just a side question - with Brexit and a new conservative PM, is there any chance the UK will move back to the center and common sense as far as firearms ownership is concerned?

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No idea, probably not though

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:19:04 PM EDT

[#41]

I want this in the very worst way.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:19:41 PM EDT

[#42]

One of my grail guns.

Do they import to the U.S.?

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:22:18 PM EDT

[#43]

What a beauty, congrats!

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:23:06 PM EDT

[#44]

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One of my grail guns.

Do they import to the U.S.?

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Yes they export, but i've no idea about your end with the can and short barrel etc

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:24:01 PM EDT

[#45]

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One of my grail guns.

Do they import to the U.S.?

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I'd simply be happy to buy a fully-sourced US version.

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:24:08 PM EDT

[#46]

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Man, that is beautiful!

I first learned of the DeLisle in the mid to late seventies and have had a lust affair ever since.

After now reading the rest of the thread I'm now thinking I have a perfect candidate for a project. A couple years ago I picked up a Lithgow MklllNol. Unfortunately most of the bullets that actually hit an IDPA silhouette strike sideways. At twentyfive feet!

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Well there you go

Posted: 2/8/2017 4:59:11 PM EDT

[#47]

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I've shot my friend's replica several times. They are very neat, historically, but you can make something modern that is just as quiet, half the weight, and a quarter the price.

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This company doesnt do DeLisle rifles anymore, but they do a 9mm conversion to a filipino rifle originally chambered in .22 TCM.

http://www.specialinterestarms.com/index.php?page=delisle

Posted: 2/8/2017 5:02:19 PM EDT

[#48]

That looks pretty nice.
I want one but I am sure I can't afford it right now.

Posted: 2/8/2017 5:03:53 PM EDT

[#49]

Incredibly sexy with that folding stock. My god.

Posted: 2/8/2017 5:05:23 PM EDT

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Unregulated.

The UK actually does things pretty intelligently, in terms of how firearms are tracked/controlled. They're far too restrictive, of course, but the controlled item is the barrel, and the regulated features are only those that actually relate to the gun's function. The "long handgun" thing is notoriously stupid as fuck, but that's one thing among many, whereas almost all of our laws are fucking retarded.

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I think barrel tracking is how Sweden and other countries dof it as well.

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