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Posted: 6/12/2002 7:09:01 PM EDT
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Not as if it would be any suprise, but I happen to agree with the good Rev.
Mentally challenged I am. [:D] |
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Posted: 6/12/2002 7:22:29 PM EDT
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I agree with him as well. You should have
drilled back a pages. We have talked about this all day today. Here is the source for the complete article. As well as Arab sources: [url]www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/epaper/editions/wednesday/news_d3609e6d51a801e300b2.html[/url] Allah is not Jehovah Jehovah's not going to turn you into a terrorist that'll try to bomb people and take the lives of thousands and thousands of people. More than half of Palestinians support suicide bomb attacks against Israel [url]www.jpost.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/Full&cid=1023621999866[/url] Muhammad married a girl of 6 and consummated the marriage at 9. In my book, that's a pedophile... http://answering-islam.org/Index/A/aisha.html http://www.homa.org/Mohammadpedophile.html http://muslim-canada.org/chronol.htm Christians and Muslims have "fundamental differences.The God Islam worships is a God of works and a God of fear. The God Christians worship is a God of hope and grace and love and mercy." The prophet Muhammad didn't do anything not in accord with the norms of the time. So this means it was normal at the time for grown Arab men to marry little girls. http://www.aaiil.org/text/acus/islam/aishahage.shtml [b]P.S. I took out the hot links as to Jarhead_22 suggestion. So that the Islamic webmasters will not know where each of you came from. They would know you came from this site if you click on a hot link.[/b] But you missed this post as well.[V] |
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Posted: 6/12/2002 7:23:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Claims Muhammad was a demon-possessed pedophile. Why is it that "reverends" such as Vines and Falwell are always mentally challenged? Something in the water they drank as kids? Yes lead. Have you seen that assclown Jack VanUmpky(sp) |
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Posted: 6/12/2002 7:29:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Claims Muhammad was a demon-possessed pedophile. Why is it that "reverends" such as Vines and Falwell are always mentally challenged? Something in the water they drank as kids? Yes lead. Have you seen that assclown Jack VanUmpky(sp) Its Dr. Jack Van Impe. [url]http://www.jvim.com/cgi-bin/update.cgi[/url] A fairly informative site as to current events and how they pertain to Bible Prophecy in the news. [^] |
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Posted: 6/12/2002 7:45:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: Have you seen that assclown Jack VanUmpky(sp) How about the old whore with the purple hair and inch thick makeup....I believe she's on The Baptist Network. She's a hell of a spokeswoman for god. |
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Posted: 6/12/2002 7:46:45 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Have you seen that assclown Jack VanUmpky(sp) How about the old whore with the purple hair and inch thick makeup....I believe she's on The Baptist Network. She's a hell of a spokeswoman for god. Now I agree with that. She's a freak! BTW, its the Trinity Broadcast Network. And they are Fundies/Carasmatic. |
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Posted: 6/12/2002 7:50:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims Muhammad was a demon-possessed pedophile. Why is it that "reverends" such as Vines and Falwell are always mentally challenged? Something in the water they drank as kids? Yes lead. Have you seen that assclown Jack VanUmpky(sp) Its Dr. Jack Van Impe. [url]http://www.jvim.com/cgi-bin/update.cgi[/url] A fairly informative site as to current events and how they pertain to Bible Prophecy in the news. [^] So sorry Dr. Van Impe. [puke] Surely you can't be serious. This clown flip-flops on issues and chooses the topic of the week to extort money. His quotes, assumptions, spin on the bible and news are misleading to say the least. "Obviously this means that so this means this and and bla bla bla and this is an indication that the world is going to end" First he supported militias as true Americans. Next week after the OKC bomb he stated he has never supported these groups. Four or five years ago he had some crap about UN troops and vehicles in the US that were "Obviously" an indication the the world was coming to an end. You may sense my anger on this issue. I think these guys that swindle folks in the name of god are lower than reporter and politicians. RANT OFF [soapbox] I hope that hot link leads them here so they can read this. Please note I don't have a problem with religion just these folks that use it to make money. |
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Posted: 6/12/2002 8:06:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Claims Muhammad was a demon-possessed pedophile. Why is it that "reverends" such as Vines and Falwell are always mentally challenged? Something in the water they drank as kids? Yes lead. Have you seen that assclown Jack VanUmpky(sp) Its Dr. Jack Van Impe. [url]http://www.jvim.com/cgi-bin/update.cgi[/url] A fairly informative site as to current events and how they pertain to Bible Prophecy in the news. [^] So sorry Dr. Van Impe. [puke] Surely you can't be serious. This clown flip-flops on issues and chooses the topic of the week to extort money. His quotes, assumption, spin on the bible and news are misleading to say the least. "Obviously this mean that so this means this and and bla bla bla and this is an indication that the world is going to end" First he supported militias as true Americans. Next week after the OKC bomb he stated he has never supported these groups. Four or five years ago he had some crap about UN troops and vehicles in the US that were "Obviously" an indication the the world was coming to an end. You may sense my anger on this issue. I think these guys that swindle folks in the name of god are lower than reporter and politicians. RANT OFF [soapbox] There is a big, BIG difference between militias and terrorists like Timothy McVei. And he does not preach that the world is going to end. He point blank says every week that the world is without end, and talks about the return of Christ. He was on tonight. He's one of the only one's I will waste my time watching. He NEVER begs for money, maybe once a month he talks about donations to keep the TV program running. I guess once you get past his silver hair appearance and listen with an open mind to what he has to say about Revelation, you may change your view point. Believe me, I can't stand most TV preachers, so I understand your disgust about them. But not this guy. He practically has the Bible memorized. And there are UN vehicle scattered all over the US. Right here in Texas as well. Rows of UN vans. He's talking in terms of the stages of the events as they unfold. And get this... He's pro GUN. How about that ? I don't blame you for your attitude about the TV preachers, most of them suck. Your entitled to your opinion. But I consider myself to be well read and educated and believe this guy to be genuine. |
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Posted: 6/12/2002 8:07:06 PM EDT
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Stealing in the name of God seems rather risky to me! If they are, and He really IS then they are in some deep doo doo IMHO. I think mocking Him is farther than I would ever be willing to go....
Who really cares what Muhammed was? They are willing to believe what they like about him just as I can believe what I wish about Jesus. Doesn't justify their murderous acts! They wanted a war and I am more than willing to give them one. This IS a war between two cultures; between civilized people and barbarians, US against Islam. Sooner we recogize the ugly reality the sooner we can move toward victory. So far, the biggest engagement has been against American citizens and our Constitution, IMHO. Until we are rid of Colon (exit) Powell and his ilk, victory can not be had. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 5:35:54 AM EDT
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Using people like Jerry Vines and Jerry Falwell as experts on religious, historical, and moral issues is akin to using a proctologist as an expert witness on nuclear submarines. [rolleyes]
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Posted: 6/13/2002 5:40:02 AM EDT
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Quoted: Using people like Jerry Vines and Jerry Falwell as experts on religious, historical, and moral issues is akin to using a proctologist as an expert witness on nuclear submarines. [rolleyes] Maybe these two yes, but who would you consider an expert ? I hope you don't say the Catholoc church. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 5:50:16 AM EDT
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Very well put, marvl.
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Posted: 6/13/2002 5:52:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: Claims Muhammad was a demon-possessed pedophile. Why is it that "reverends" such as Vines and Falwell are always mentally challenged? Something in the water they drank as kids? I think this happend too often when you mix reverends with for profit media, ESPECIALLY TV. Throw in a big ornate church building with a huge mortgage to pay, and you got a recipe for disaster. My $0.02. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:05:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: I think this happend too often when you mix reverends with for profit media, ESPECIALLY TV. Throw in a big ornate church building with a huge mortgage to pay, and you got a recipe for disaster. My $0.02. That's always the case. The focus changed from the teachings of Christ to "Look how big and Holy our church is". Organized Religion Sucks! [b]So do people[/b], which is the main problem with Christianity, The [b]Christians themselves...[/b] Even Gandhi said " Had I not met a Christian, I would have become a Christian". But unfortunately people can not get beyond the the people in the Church and focus on the Word. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:10:19 AM EDT
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I was in Suadi Arabia for 6 months during the Gulf War. It wasn't uncommon to see an older man walking down the street with a much younger man and holding hands.
I know this is a cultural thing, but I do believe it is rather well known that Suadi men consider women as reproduction tools and boys for pleasure. I wouldn't doubt the accusations against Muhammed at all. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:12:53 AM EDT
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ilikelegs
You probably know more about Dr. Jack I havve only seen him 5 or 6 times. He does seem to quote things from the bible out of context to support his views. Mark Knoffler sings a great song about TV evangelist (Ticket to Heaven) |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:15:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: ..... unfortunately people can not get beyond the the people in the Church and focus on the Word. That's the key - the focus needs to be on the Word, and on Christ. Its my (not so) humble opinion that a statement like Ghandis is a cop-out. Would they NOT buy a car because someone MISused as a getaway car from a bank robbery?? Course not. Neither will God cut anyone any slack in rejecting His Word, and His Son, because someone MISused "religion" to accomplish some evil deed. Guns aren't evil, even tho some MISuse them for murder. CHRISTianity isn't evil becasue SOME MISuse it for greed, or war, or self-aggrandisement. (NOT intended or directed at you. Just generic comments) |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:19:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: It wasn't uncommon to see an older man walking down the street with a much younger man and holding hands. I know this is a cultural thing, but I do believe it is rather well known that Suadi men consider women as reproduction tools and boys for pleasure. I wouldn't doubt the accusations against Muhammed at all. May be the new name should be "The Gay Nation of Islam". This religion, "Islam", is a sick one. But look what the Gay Catholic Priests have done to Christianity. I think this is gonna be the down fall of the influence Christianity around the world. Now instead of people pointing out the freaks with purple hair and Golden chairs, they will lump the Gay freak Catholic priests in with us as well. I would euthanasia so many if I controlled the world. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:21:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: ..... unfortunately people can not get beyond the the people in the Church and focus on the Word. That's the key - the focus needs to be on the Word, and on Christ. Its my (not so) humble opinion that a statement like Ghandis is a cop-out. Would they NOT buy a car because someone MISused as a getaway car from a bank robbery?? Course not. Neither will God cut anyone any slack in rejecting His Word, and His Son, because someone MISused "religion" to accomplish some evil deed. Guns aren't evil, even tho some MISuse them for murder. CHRISTianity isn't evil becasue SOME MISuse it for greed, or war, or self-aggrandisement. (NOT intended or directed at you. Just generic comments) Agreed !!! But most cannot think this way. But most are fools. Not directed to anyone here, just humanity itself. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:22:25 AM EDT
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Quoted: Neither will God cut anyone any slack in rejecting His Word, and His Son, because someone MISused "religion" to accomplish some evil deed. g-man, with all due respect, it is not any mortal's place to decide who God cuts slack for, who is a Christian, who is going to heaven, etc, etc. Our great hope is in God's mercy, not God's justice. If we rely on justice, who among us is worthy of heaven? (in-awe-of-the-Almighty), legrue |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:24:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: Our great hope is in God's mercy, not God's justice. If we rely on justice, who among us is worthy of heaven? (in-awe-of-the-Almighty), legrue I think its God's Grace. None of us are worthy. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:29:14 AM EDT
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Post from Graves14 -
How about the old whore with the purple hair and inch thick makeup....I believe she's on The Baptist Network. Gee, Graves14, what insight you must have that you know this woman that well as to comment on her personal sexual history. Remind me to never take your azz seriously again.[:D] BTW, I don't even know to whom your comment referred, so unless the name of her program is 'The Old Whore's Show' on the Baptist Network, I would suggest that you have no idea what you're talking about. Eric The(Stunned)Hun[>]:)] |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 6:42:58 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Neither will God cut anyone any slack in rejecting His Word, and His Son, because someone MISused "religion" to accomplish some evil deed. g-man, with all due respect, it is not any mortal's place to decide who God cuts slack for, who is a Christian, who is going to heaven, etc, etc. I'm NOT MAKING such a judgment. I'm reiterating a principle of God's word. UNLESS you receive Christ as your Saviour (in teh Biblically mandated manner) "you" (generically) are NOT going to heaven. I'll get you the verses if you like. I have no way to determine completely who has or hasn't received Christ as Saviour. So I make no such judgment. I'm merely repeating the edict from God's Court of Law. God makes that judgment. Our great hope is in God's mercy, not God's justice. If we rely on justice, who among us is worthy of heaven? (in-awe-of-the-Almighty), legrue God's mercy has appeased God's justice. With the shedding of Christs blood, and the resurrection of Christs body, Christ satisfied God's justice. Those then who receive Christ embrace God's justice, and praise Him for His mercy. |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 7:06:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: Our great hope is in God's mercy, not God's justice. If we rely on justice, who among us is worthy of heaven? (in-awe-of-the-Almighty), legrue God's mercy has appeased God's justice. With the shedding of Christs blood, and the resurrection of Christs body, Christ satisfied God's justice. Those then who receive Christ embrace God's justice, and praise Him for His mercy. Our great hope is in God's [b]Grace[/b] With the shedding of Christs blood and the resurrection of Christs body, Christ represents God's [b]Grace[/b]. Those then who receive Christ, embrace God's [b]compasion[/b], and praise Him for His [b]Grace[/b]. [:D] There, I fixed it. That's what you ment to say, right ? |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 7:34:46 AM EDT
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Quoted: Our great hope is in God's [b]Grace[/b] With the shedding of Christs blood and the resurrection of Christs body, Christ represents God's [b]Grace[/b]. Those then who receive Christ, embrace God's [b]compasion[/b], and praise Him for His [b]Grace[/b]. [:D] There, I fixed it. That's what you ment to say, right ? I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying God doesn't CHUCK His justice, and replace it with mercy (grace). Without justice, mercy (grace) is unnecessary. ONLY by the existence of God's justice, does grace and mercy have any meaning. God is infinitely just, and yet infinitely merciful to those who have received the mercy (grace) MADE POSSIBLE in Christ's death and resurrection. Hey - this is a GREAT discussion!!!!! |
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Posted: 6/13/2002 7:45:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Our great hope is in God's [b]Grace[/b] With the shedding of Christs blood and the resurrection of Christs body, Christ represents God's [b]Grace[/b]. Those then who receive Christ, embrace God's [b]compasion[/b], and praise Him for His [b]Grace[/b]. [:D] There, I fixed it. That's what you ment to say, right ? I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just saying God doesn't CHUCK His justice, and replace it with mercy (grace). Without justice, mercy (grace) is unnecessary. ONLY by the existence of God's justice, does grace and mercy have any meaning. God is infinitely just, and yet infinitely merciful to those who have received the mercy (grace) MADE POSSIBLE in Christ's death and resurrection. Hey - this is a GREAT discussion!!!!! Agreed [:D] |
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