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Posted: 12/12/2013 3:08:54 AM EST
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wealthy-16-year-old-killed-4-drunken-crash-spared-jail-article-1.1544508

A spoiled Texas teen who killed four in a drunken driving accident dodged prison and was sentenced to probation instead after defense lawyers argued his wealthy parents never taught him right from wrong.
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Burleson county
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 3:17:15 AM EST
I heard about this shortly after it happened. Very sad.

I can see how this sort of thing happens:
http://news92fm.com/326702/dad-of-boys-killed-in-drunk-driving-crash-charged-with-killing-driver/
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 3:17:34 AM EST
IBTL
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 3:24:29 AM EST
Karma is a bitch and will eventually find him.
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I never liked the thought of waiting for karma to do its fucking job. That could be years from now or worse, it might never happen.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 3:29:53 AM EST
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As system message shall find this thread.

Link Posted: 12/12/2013 3:31:02 AM EST
Don't confuse the Law with Justice.

IBTL
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 3:34:09 AM EST
That is seriously fucked up.

I do wonder though, is it creepy at all that the mother of the 24 year old girl that was killed carries some of her creamated daughter's ashes in a lockett around her neck?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 3:48:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By slappynuts:
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Karma, hell I'd be worried about the families of the dead if I were him
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 3:57:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ftlaudmike:

Karma, hell I'd be worried about the families of the dead if I were him
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Originally Posted By slappynuts:
Karma is a bitch and will eventually find him.

Karma, hell I'd be worried about the families of the dead if I were him

There is that too.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 4:04:12 AM EST
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Now that is some bullshit. He should have received at least some jail time for that.

The article is hardly objective though.. calling him a rich "brat" etc. Not that it excuses anything.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 4:11:02 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thorshammerblow:
I do wonder though, is it creepy at all that the mother of the 24 year old girl that was killed carries some of her creamated daughter's ashes in a lockett around her neck?
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No. When you grow up and have children little things like this make plenty of sense, and you won't care about the little things people do to remember or feel close to lost loved ones.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 4:11:38 AM EST
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 4:24:30 AM EST
Why does it matter that he's rich. I see everyone going hysterical about "rich people". Why not look at the corrupt .gov and judge?
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 4:26:06 AM EST
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Some animals are more equal than others. When I was in high school I had a few friends over one night. Around 10 pm we walked out as everyone was leaving and in my friends car parked across the street were three people stealing his stereo. The thieves saw us, ran to their car (convertible mustang GT), and took off. We jumped in my car and took off after them (in hindsight I have no idea why none of us thought of calling the police). Pursuing them down the main road speeds reached near 90 mph. They tried to corner onto a different road, wiped out, and ended up on the bank with a totaled Mustang GT and some injured thieves (which was a good thing because their mustang was easily outperforming my Toyota Celica). Turned out the thieves were some rich kid seniors from my high school who were out stealing car stereos for the kicks. I didn't know any of them personally, but knew of them. Police arrived on scene and arrested all of them.

We later found out that one kid was the son of a local mayor. He got off scot free even though he was over the age of 18. The second guy was the son of a very wealthy local land developer with connections to the Mayor. He also got off scot free (he too was over the age of 18). The third kid was the cousin of the Mayor's kid, but didn't come from a well-to-do family. He had to do community service (he was a minor).

Was a life lesson for me on the "equality" of our judicial system.

BTW, I looked up the reference to "scot free" because I thought it was "scott." Kinda interesting etymology.

Dred Scott was a black slave born in Virginia, USA in 1799. In several celebrated court cases, right up to the USA Supreme Court in 1857, he attempted to gain his freedom. These cases all failed but Scott was later made a free man by his so-called owners, the Blow family. Knowing this, we might feel that we don't need to look further for the origin of 'scott free'. Many people, especially in the USA, are convinced that the phrase originated with the story of Dred Scott.

The etymology of this phrase shows the danger of trying to prove a case on circumstantial evidence alone. In fact, the phrase isn't 'scott free', it is 'scot free' and it has nothing to do with Mr. Scott.

Given the reputation of Scotsmen as being careful with their money we might look to Scotland for the origin of 'scot free'. Wrong again, but at least we are in the right part of the world now. 'Skat' is a Scandinavian word for tax or payment and the word migrated to Britain and mutated into 'scot' as the name of a redistributive taxation, levied as early the 10th century as a form of municipal poor relief.

'Scot' as a term for tax has been used since then in various forms - Church scot, Rome scot, Soul scot and so on. Whatever the tax, the phrase 'getting off scot free' simply refers to not paying one's taxes.

Scot freeNo one likes paying tax and people have been getting off scot free since at least the 11th century. The first reference in print to 'scot free' is in the Writ of Edward the Confessor. We don't have a precise date for the writ but Edward died in 1066, which is a long time before Dred Scott.

The use of the figurative version of the phrase, that is, one where no actual scot tax was paid but in which someone escapes custody, began in the 16th century, as in this example from John Maplet's natural history Green Forest, 1567:

"Daniell scaped scotchfree by Gods prouidence."

'Scotchfree' was a variant based on a mishearing. An example of the currently used form, that is, 'scot free', comes a few years later, in Robert Greene's The Historie of Dorastus and Fawnia, 1588:

These and the like considerations something daunted Pandosto his courage, so that hee was content rather to put up a manifest injurie with peace, then hunt after revenge, dishonor and losse; determining since Egistus had escaped scot-free.
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Link Posted: 12/12/2013 4:33:15 AM EST
I missed the part where they lock the Parents up instead. I mean, since they are holding the parents accountable for their sons actions. It would only seem fitting.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 4:40:54 AM EST
Like I said in the other thread, he needs to be swinging from the gallows.
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IBTL
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 5:58:59 AM EST
Perhaps 4 civil suites will change his parent status from wealthy to formerly wealthy.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:06:12 AM EST
"Mah baby din't do nuffin......"


what?....oh, sorry...

"My sweet cherub is innocent of all these scandalous accusations...."





Hopefully the civil trial will turn the parents into paupers....and snowflake will get transferred from the $500K/yr counseling resort to state juvi institute. I'm sure the inhabitants there won't mind teaching him about the Knockout Game on a daily basis.
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Now that is some bullshit. He should have received at least some jail time for that.

The article is hardly objective though.. calling him a rich "brat" etc. Not that it excuses anything.
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Agreed.

I don't know shit about the facts in this case, but it is pretty clear what that biased article is trying to make me think.
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Originally Posted By Gspointer:
Perhaps 4 civil suites will change his parent status from wealthy to formerly wealthy.
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Yep. There are probably attorneys already drooling over this one, and they all will be willing to do it on a contingency basis.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:11:05 AM EST
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Originally Posted By gym007:
Why does it matter that he's rich. I see everyone going hysterical about "rich people". Why not look at the corrupt .gov and judge?
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There it is. The judge should be recalled.


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Originally Posted By slappynuts:
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If I were related to one of his four victims, I'd find that very cold comfort.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:14:38 AM EST
again?
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Originally Posted By thorshammerblow:
That is seriously fucked up.

I do wonder though, is it creepy at all that the mother of the 24 year old girl that was killed carries some of her creamated daughter's ashes in a lockett around her neck?
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Not any creepier than carrying a strand of her daughter's hair in a locket. They're ashes, not putrefying flesh. I imagine she takes some small measure of comfort in them.

I have my dead dogs' ashes, bits of their fur, baby teeth and whiskers. And those are mementos of dogs that lived a full measure of life and died peacefully. I cannot imagine the agony of losing a child, especially in such a brutal horrifying way. Pretty much anything that mom wants to do is okay with me--yes, up to and including dispatching her daughter's killer.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:29:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By ARdvark:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wealthy-16-year-old-killed-4-drunken-crash-spared-jail-article-1.1544508

A spoiled Texas teen who killed four in a drunken driving accident dodged prison and was sentenced to probation instead after defense lawyers argued his wealthy parents never taught him right from wrong.
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Burleson county
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Burleson, TX, Tarrant County


mm
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 6:43:49 AM EST
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Karma.
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if you took my daughter from me and escaped justice i would think long and hard about dispatching my own form of justice. If you took my wife and child from me? Well then i would have to come up with a reason not to.

No matter how slanted the article may be, a drunk driver killed 4 people. Probation is not appropriate for any reason.
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:08:44 AM EST
My offspring did not perpetrate any such act.
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Originally Posted By ftlaudmike:

Karma, hell I'd be worried about the families of the dead if I were him
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Originally Posted By slappynuts:
Karma is a bitch and will eventually find him.

Karma, hell I'd be worried about the families of the dead if I were him



Exactly!
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:19:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Texas_Infidel:


No. When you grow up and have children little things like this make plenty of sense, and you won't care about the little things people do to remember or feel close to lost loved ones.
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Originally Posted By Texas_Infidel:
Originally Posted By thorshammerblow:
I do wonder though, is it creepy at all that the mother of the 24 year old girl that was killed carries some of her creamated daughter's ashes in a lockett around her neck?


No. When you grow up and have children little things like this make plenty of sense, and you won't care about the little things people do to remember or feel close to lost loved ones.


I have three kids. God forbid something happen to one when I am still alive, I don't think I would wear their ashes in a locket.
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Originally Posted By JuniorJr:


Not any creepier than carrying a strand of her daughter's hair in a locket. They're ashes, not putrefying flesh. I imagine she takes some small measure of comfort in them.

I have my dead dogs' ashes, bits of their fur, baby teeth and whiskers. And those are mementos of dogs that lived a full measure of life and died peacefully. I cannot imagine the agony of losing a child, especially in such a brutal horrifying way. Pretty much anything that mom wants to do is okay with me--yes, up to and including dispatching her daughter's killer.
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Originally Posted By thorshammerblow:
That is seriously fucked up.

I do wonder though, is it creepy at all that the mother of the 24 year old girl that was killed carries some of her creamated daughter's ashes in a lockett around her neck?


Not any creepier than carrying a strand of her daughter's hair in a locket. They're ashes, not putrefying flesh. I imagine she takes some small measure of comfort in them.

I have my dead dogs' ashes, bits of their fur, baby teeth and whiskers. And those are mementos of dogs that lived a full measure of life and died peacefully. I cannot imagine the agony of losing a child, especially in such a brutal horrifying way. Pretty much anything that mom wants to do is okay with me--yes, up to and including dispatching her daughter's killer.


I would have absolutely no problem with the latter. The ashes just struck me as odd.
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I never liked the thought of waiting for karma to do its fucking job. That could be years from now or worse, it might never happen.

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Originally Posted By slappynuts:
Karma is a bitch and will eventually find him.


I never liked the thought of waiting for karma to do its fucking job. That could be years from now or worse, it might never happen.


This
Link Posted: 12/12/2013 7:29:57 AM EST
That kid would be safer in Prison then on the streets if he killed my wife and kid.
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