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Posted: 10/11/2001 8:54:13 AM EDT
A lot of children will be out trick or treating and it would be awful easy to contaminate sweets with bio stuff. I'm taking my 3 yr old to the local church carnival instead of around the neighborhood. Whats everyone else doing?
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:10:01 AM EDT
Church carnival to observe a pagan holiday. I just love it.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:12:21 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: Church carnival to observe a pagan holiday. I just love it.
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I never thought of it that way before.......interesting.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:23:18 AM EDT
I got this email from someone who works for a shopping mall contractor. Someone sent it to her. hopefully its just email bullshit, but it cant hurt to post it i guess. if it is b-s, sorry to waste everyones time. -jay "Hi All - I think you all know that I don't send out hoaxes and don't do the reactionary thing and send out anything that crosses my path. This one, however, is a friend of a friend and I've given it enough credibility in my mind that I'm writing it up and sending it out to all of you. My friend's friend was dating a guy from Afghanistan up until a month ago. She had a date with him around 9/6 and was stood up. She was understandably upset and went to his home to find it completely emptied. On 9/10, she received a letter from her boyfriend explaining that he wished he could tell her why he had left and that he was sorry it had to be like that. The part worth mentioning is that he BEGGED her not to get on any commercial airlines on 9/11 and to not to go any malls on Halloween. As soon as everything happened on the 11th, she called the FBI and has since turned over the letter. This is not an email that I've received and decided to pass on. This came from a phone conversation with a long-time friend of mine last night. I may be wrong, and I hope I am. However, with one of his warnings being correct and devastating, I'm not willing to take the chance on the second and wanted to make sure that people I cared about had the same information that I did."
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:23:34 AM EDT
If they could contaminate that many commercial items at the source, we would probably all be dead by now. Besides they already put enough crap in the products.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:25:38 AM EDT
I have been sent that e-mail by several people already. Its a hoax.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:26:29 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Symtex: I have been sent that e-mail by several people already. Its a hoax.
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Ditto
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:30:59 AM EDT
Try the Exotic Erotic Ball. Since eveyone is naked there is no way to hid a bomb.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:34:02 AM EDT
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:43:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2001 9:39:44 AM EDT by erickm]
Originally Posted By XxSLASHERxX: it is done for the right reasons, not the wrong!
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right reasons being isolating children from other kids, and ideas other than your preacher's? Or just keeping them away from SATAN who has taken over the minds of all those candy-grabbing costumed demon-spawn?
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:44:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By apollojay: I got this email from someone who works for a shopping mall contractor. Someone sent it to her. hopefully its just email bullshit, but it cant hurt to post it i guess. if it is b-s, sorry to waste everyones time. -jay
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The "shopping mall contractor" is a fucking moron for sending this type of crap out. Let's hope you were smarter and did [b]not[/b] forward it to a bunch of people too. I never cease to be amazed at the sheer stupidity of most internet users. Do not - repeat, [b]do not[/b] - forward anything on the internet unless you can personally verify the original source!!!! The fact that a "friend of a friend" sent it to some guy and it somewhow made it's way to a "shopping mall contractor" who then forwarded it to you should have given you a clue that this was a hoax. So now you have to email everybody you sent this to and tell them you're a brainless cretin. Have a nice day.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:47:52 AM EDT
QUICK! Someone post "The Hoax List" and give apollojay an e-spanking! [spank] [b][size=1]Don Out[/size=1][/b] [b][size=4][red]AIRBORNE![/red][/size=4][/b]
[i]"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly; it is the dearness only that gives everything value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price on its goods." Thomas Paine.[/i]
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Link Posted: 10/11/2001 10:18:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2001 12:47:09 PM EDT by Renamed]
A lot of children will be out trick or treating and it would be awful easy to contaminate sweets with bio stuff.
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If the terrorists can contaminate Halloween candy, then they can contaminate all other store-bought food, too. Or are you afraid of a free-lance poisoner in your neighborhood? [X]
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 10:25:16 AM EDT
It is designed to let children have another fun time rather than an evil time....it is done for the right reasons, not the wrong!
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Interesting. I would have described your beliefs as "Differing from mine". I wouldn't have called them "evil". I must be out of touch...I'll try harder.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 10:32:33 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Renamed:
A lot of children will be out trick or treating and it would be awful easy to contaminate sweets with bio stuff.[/quotee] If the terrorists can contaminate Halloween candy, then they can contaminate all other store-bought food, too. Or are you afraid of a free-lance poisoner in your neighborhood? [X]
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Well I was kinda thinking outside of the box too. All those children out and about vs normally inside their home. Would make easy targets.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 10:37:16 AM EDT
Wow, next thing you know someone on here is going to start spinning yarns about Satanic Ritual Abuse, how halloween is actually a "satanic" holiday, and how ancient druids used to sacrifice humans. Somehow they'll probably tie it all in to Bin Laden too. This ought to be good.... If something DOES happen on halloween, it's only because it was convienient for the terrorists to strike that day, no more, no less. But with all this crap flying around, it will probably be the absolute safest halloween in years!
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 10:37:34 AM EDT
Personally, I'm staying away from those camo M&M's with Osama's picture on the package.[flame]
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 10:39:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: Church carnival to observe a pagan holiday. I just love it.
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What do you think about decorating a tree for celebrating the birth of Christ? Yep, as pagan as it gets. God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 11:51:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: Church carnival to observe a pagan holiday. I just love it.
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Chiil out man, halloweens about egging houses and getting free candy.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 12:07:06 PM EDT
What do you think about decorating a tree for celebrating the birth of Christ? Yep, as pagan as it gets.
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I totally agree. And I, for one, am not about to call Halloween a Satanic festival. We Irish, however, did start it .... Samhain44 (or "sah-whan", as 'twere) likely knows that.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 12:09:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 12:21:25 PM EDT
Holloween is not realy a pagan festival. look up it's history. It just has been comercialized all to hell. It was called the hollowed evening out, and was a christian celebration...pat
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 12:26:36 PM EDT
This years Halloween not only falls on a full moon, but a blue moon. Just thought I'd throw that out there [:D]. Think I'll be dancing around a bonfire. Woo Hoo!
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 12:51:07 PM EDT
Holloween is not realy a pagan festival. look up it's history. It just has been comercialized all to hell. It was called the hollowed evening out, and was a christian celebration...pat
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I'd be interested in your source on that....it's contrary to everything my research shows. The Irish were doing it long before the Christians came along.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 12:54:57 PM EDT
Well I was kinda thinking outside of the box too. All those children out and about vs normally inside their home. Would make easy targets.
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Children make easier targets when they're gathered [i]en masse[/i] in a "gun-free zone"... such as a public school.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 1:46:55 PM EDT
You never met my ex-wife....:) Rich
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 2:11:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Celt: I'd be interested in your source on that....it's contrary to everything my research shows. The Irish were doing it long before the Christians came along.
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So this getting way off topic but... My understanding of the history is that the Church "designed" many of its holidays to coincide with pre-existing pagan celebrations. The idea was, "If we celebrate things at the same time, it'll be easier to convert them to Christ," or something along those lines. So while pagans did, in fact, celebrate Samhain before Christianity, Hallowe'en is actually a Christian holiday. That's why what we call Hallowe'en is still secularly celebrated by the pumpkins and masks and all that. Christmas coincides w/ Solstice. A tree? How Druidic can you get? Easter coincides w/ Spring Equinox and it's celebration of fertility (Think about how rabbits and eggs have ANYTHING to do with the Resurrection).
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 2:15:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GWIGG: A lot of children will be out trick or treating and it would be awful easy to contaminate sweets with bio stuff. I'm taking my 3 yr old to the local church carnival instead of around the neighborhood. Whats everyone else doing?
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Back on topic... I think it would be easier to do mass damage to a large gathering of people (a church carnival, for example) than to hurt a bunch of freely roaming kids. A bio weapon at a party has the potential to do much more damage because it spreads out from a known center and the kids go home and infect everyone else. If you try to get kids while they're out trick or treating, you run the risk of missing the target completely. BTW, if they were after the food supply, we'd likely be dead already.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 2:16:56 PM EDT
What the hell is this country coming to when you can't walk around your own neighborhood without feeling threatened? How about we all provide armed escort for our children.......I can see it now...."TRICK OR TREAT!" while mom and dad are standing at the street covering their kids with AR15's, WOOHOO!
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 2:20:58 PM EDT
Halloween Halloween is the eve of Hallowmas, better know to modern Christians as All Saints' Day. Hallowmas celebrates God's harvesting into heaven the faithful of every age, culture and walk of life. It is a day of glorious rejoicing. Saints are people who, by their joyful service, have extended the love of God to others. The martyrology, the list of the saints officially honored by the church, contains over 10,000 names—and those are only the saints we know of. All Saints' Day also remembers those holy people whom no on but God any longer knows. The reading for the day from Revelation describes "a great multitude that no one can count." This abundant harvest of souls is perfectly suited to observance in late autumn. That's why All Saints' Day and Halloween are brightened with corn shocks, pumpkins, apples, nuts and other signs of natural bounty. The American tradition of Halloween ghost-and-goblin madness comes from Celtic lands, where the spirits of the dead were believed to roam the earth for one night before winter began. To ward off their fears of the supernatural, people sat around huge bonfires, telling stoires and sharing the fruits of the harvest. Copyright © 1995 Archdiocese of Chicago: Liturgy Training Publications, 1800 North Hermitage Avenue, Chicago, IL 60622-1101
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 2:23:16 PM EDT
Halloween is no pagan holiday. Its roots are Catholic, All Hallowed Eve or the day before All Saint's Day, a Catholic Holy Day of Obligation.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 2:51:43 PM EDT
Just go trick or treating, then throw the candy out when you get home and feed the lil uns other candy that you purchase just for munching
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 3:41:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keith_J: Halloween is no pagan holiday. Its roots are Catholic, All Hallowed Eve or the day before All Saint's Day, a Catholic Holy Day of Obligation.
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Strictly speaking, you are correct. But the secular celebration of Hallowe'en has next to nothing to do with the Catholic celebration of All Hallow's Day. The popular celebration has much more in common with the pagan celebration of the harvest. I reiterate that the celebration of the harvest predates Hallowe'en. And the timing of the then new Catholic Holy Day was [b]NOT[/b] coincidental.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 4:15:07 PM EDT
PYamaski knows whereof he speaks, and makes my point exactly. The Christians adopted pagan holidays in order to more efficiently convert. Then they were dishonest enough to claim them for their own. If I were to set myself up as a holy man and then call an oak tree a radish, I may fool my own child, but the tree is still an oak. And it was still there before I came.
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 4:21:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By RobertInMaine: Just go trick or treating, then throw the candy out when you get home and feed the lil uns other candy that you purchase just for munching
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[size=2]... Hey man![/size=2] Don't throw ANY candy out! Mail it and your AMMO to: Steve Foster 7363 W. Glenwood Road Mesa, Arizona 86388 ... thank you
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 5:47:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/12/2001 3:48:33 AM EDT by Schnert]
When it comes to Halloween I side with Hank Hill. TRICK OR TREAT... TRICK OR TREAT... TRICK OR TREAT... [}:D]
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 5:59:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Smeghead: What the hell is this country coming to when you can't walk around your own neighborhood without feeling threatened? How about we all provide armed escort for our children.......I can see it now...."TRICK OR TREAT!" while mom and dad are standing at the street covering their kids with AR15's, WOOHOO!
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My kids always have armed escorts named Mommy and Daddy. [:D] God Bless Texas
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 8:31:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/11/2001 8:29:12 PM EDT by prk]
Originally Posted By PYamasaki:
Originally Posted By Celt: I'd be interested in your source on that....it's contrary to everything my research shows. The Irish were doing it long before the Christians came along.
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So this getting way off topic but... My understanding of the history is that the Church "designed" many of its holidays to coincide with pre-existing pagan celebrations. The idea was, "If we celebrate things at the same time, it'll be easier to convert them to Christ," or something along those lines. So while pagans did, in fact, celebrate Samhain before Christianity, Hallowe'en is actually a Christian holiday. That's why what we call Hallowe'en is still secularly celebrated by the pumpkins and masks and all that. Christmas coincides w/ Solstice. A tree? How Druidic can you get? Easter coincides w/ Spring Equinox and it's celebration of fertility (Think about how rabbits and eggs have ANYTHING to do with the Resurrection).
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We could then conclude the the pagans had their holidays, the Christians had some holidays that were not far off, and that the pagans could only hang on to a few of their own remnants by bringing them in to the Christian holidays. It doesn't matter who was first. Ask the Indians. "Don ye now your Nomex flamesuit...."
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 8:52:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Winston_Wolf: [size=2]... Hey man![/size=2] Don't throw ANY candy out! Mail it and your AMMO to: Steve Foster [Address deleted] Mesa, Arizona 86388 ... thank you
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Dude, all along I thought your old screen name was from the markings on an HK safety selector. Now it looks like it was from your initials![:O] BTW, If that's your real address, we're practically neighbors. In adjoining towns at least.[:)]
Link Posted: 10/11/2001 9:21:11 PM EDT
WTF!! Somebody somewhere decided to ruin Halloween a while back and I'm pissed. I'm so pissed off about media hype etc. evey year about poison candy razor blades etc.... Where is the proof??? Where are the stats??? It never happened!!!!! This year it's freaking anthrax Milky Ways.... Aw fudge it!!! Easter has all but disappeared from public celebration as well and BTW FU if you greet people by saying "Happy Holidays" during Christmas which is not spelled with an X.
Link Posted: 10/12/2001 1:19:06 AM EDT
Originally Posted By gardenWeasel: WTF!! Somebody somewhere decided to ruin Halloween a while back and I'm pissed. I'm so pissed off about media hype etc. evey year about poison candy razor blades etc.... Where is the proof??? Where are the stats??? It never happened!!!!! This year it's freaking anthrax Milky Ways.... Aw fudge it!!! Easter has all but disappeared from public celebration as well and BTW FU if you greet people by saying "Happy Holidays" during Christmas which is not spelled with an X.
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I for one feel offended that nobody likes Easter anymore.
Link Posted: 10/12/2001 8:35:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/12/2001 8:42:12 AM EDT
What scares me is that I grew up not 5 minutes from where Mohammed Atta lived. With all those children and the possibility of terrorists it probably would be a good idea to avoid halloween this year and for the next few years to be safe. Then again the terrorists aren't the only ones. I used to hear every halloween about how some dipshit put razor blades, etc., etc. in the candy.
Link Posted: 10/12/2001 8:46:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By XxSLASHERxX: heh....do more research on halloween and christmas.i'm sure those of u who are not religious enjoy bashing me...we just have different views and i respect your right to believe as u do. i just answered a question to celt..how about giving me some respect to what I believe. on this board there are some who love to bash anyone who does not agree with them. they make me think of vultures, waiting for a prey to attack.lol...anyway, have your fun, even at the expense of others.one day it will come back on you.. whatever you sow...u will reap.
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Back OT again: I've re-read most of the posts and they seem more a discussion of history of the origins of celebrations than the beliefs from which those celebrations arose (while the original query was regarding bioterrorism). I didn't interpret any "good" or "evil" values assigned to the bulk of this discourse -- just interpretations of history. And as far as I know, both religious and non-religious people study history. Furthermore, it was largely academic because, as [b]prk[/b] pointed astutely out:
It doesn't matter who was first. Ask the Indians.
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Link Posted: 10/12/2001 8:53:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cc48510: I used to hear every halloween about how some dipshit put razor blades, etc., etc. in the candy.
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[url]www.snopes2.com/index.html[/url] for more info on Urban Legends. And the ones that aren't just legends.
Link Posted: 10/12/2001 1:26:47 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/12/2001 1:57:14 PM EDT
I have never been invited to a Halloween party.
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