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Posted: 9/16/2001 6:41:38 AM EDT
Concealed Carry (CCW) Database: Home [url]http://www.packing.org/[/url]
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 6:45:54 AM EDT
Yes! If only one person on each of the flights had a CCW then this would have never happened, or it could have prevneted lots of deaths.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 6:52:41 AM EDT
Yes, National CCW card would go nicely with our new National ID card. In fact they should be 1 in the same. Del(arm the Civillians now)marksman [heavy]
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 7:19:55 AM EDT
I have overcome my paranoia[whacko] about being on "another list" and finally going to get my CCW.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 11:42:52 AM EDT
I will probably get flamed for this one but... CCW isn't going to help fight terrorism. The whole idea of the terrorist is to strike unexpectedly and not at a single person but at a group. CCW isn't going to stop hijackings because you can't carry on a plane. Isn't going to stop a backback nuke because you won't know its there until it goes off. Won't stop a car bomb because its just a parked car until BOOM. Same with bio/chemical agents. IF you were carrying and happened to walk by a group of terrorists making plans to bomb, poison, etc you shouldn't shoot them, call the feds (man thats hard to say). Terrorists are not going to start shooting people, not enough dead to justify it. $0.02 That said, if you live in a CCW state, get the permit. The other evils are still out there.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 11:50:56 AM EDT
Then why do the Israelies find it so important to always have everyone carrying openly?
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 2:47:03 PM EDT
If I remember correctly, The Isreali schools used to be a favorite target of terrorism. Now that Isreal has put several select fire weapons into the hands of citizens that know how to use them, the instanced are reduced. I firmly believe that if we start seeing more random acts of terrorism, we won't have to worry about banning guns because all house holds will have them anyway. In some ways, this is bad for the gun control crowd, 'cuz it shows that the government cannot protect us. Guns are not evil, those guys didn't need guns to kill several thousand people. I really think, pending more gross national stupidity, that is another nail in the coffin of gun control. By the way, is this national ID card crap actually going to happen. I already have more damn ID cards than I know what to do with!
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 2:58:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2001 2:59:01 PM EDT by ArmdLbrl]
Originally Posted By Matt_S: If I remember correctly, The Isreali schools used to be a favorite target of terrorism. Now that Isreal has put several select fire weapons into the hands of citizens that know how to use them, the instanced are reduced. I firmly believe that if we start seeing more random acts of terrorism, we won't have to worry about banning guns because all house holds will have them anyway. In some ways, this is bad for the gun control crowd, 'cuz it shows that the government cannot protect us. Guns are not evil, those guys didn't need guns to kill several thousand people. I really think, pending more gross national stupidity, that is another nail in the coffin of gun control. By the way, is this national ID card crap actually going to happen. I already have more damn ID cards than I know what to do with!
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You mean this? [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12390.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 2:59:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Delmarksman: Yes, National CCW card would go nicely with our new National ID card. In fact they should be 1 in the same. Del(arm the Civillians now)marksman [heavy]
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You actually want a National ID card? Regardless if it ties in with reciprocated CCW across the land you want a National ID card?
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 3:02:23 PM EDT
[img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12390.jpg[/img] Bet those kids don't get rowdy or talk back to the teacher.[:)]
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 3:06:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TimeToFeedTheHogs: [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12390.jpg[/img] Bet those kids don't get rowdy or talk back to the teacher.[:)]
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Not unless they ban together and one kid pops the mag out and takes the one in the chamber for the others.[:D]
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 3:12:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 9/16/2001 3:12:42 PM EDT by zazou]
NO Terrorism = greater need for Open Carry [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12390.jpg[/img] Petrol to the playground; 4 Shekels Dust Blue Sweater : 200 Shekels AR15 .233 Carbine: 3200 Shekels Defending your children 24/7 against any perpatraring SOB: Priceless
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 3:19:19 PM EDT
... I had a nightmare last night that as a part of the new round of "anti-terrorism" laws they revoked all CCW nationwide. If so, they just created a criminal here. ... but as I awoke I realized we voted John Ashcoft into office too.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 5:57:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By zazou: NO Terrorism = greater need for Open Carry [img]http://israelimages.com/medium/12390.jpg[/img] Petrol to the playground; 4 Shekels Dust Blue Sweater : 200 Shekels AR15 .233 Carbine: 3200 Shekels Defending your children 24/7 against any perpatraring SOB: Priceless
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That would make an excellent BILLBOARD!!!!
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 6:23:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By TimeToFeedTheHogs:
Originally Posted By Delmarksman: Yes, National CCW card would go nicely with our new National ID card. In fact they should be 1 in the same. Del(arm the Civillians now)marksman [heavy]
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You actually want a National ID card? Regardless if it ties in with reciprocated CCW across the land you want a National ID card?
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It's inevitable, whether I want it or not. And if so, then being a National should make it so we can carry everywhere. 24-7 You will be stopped and searched much more than before. If your Papers aren't in order, You will be arrested. Everywhere you go, Your face will be scanned and your ID checked. Welcome to the 21st Century.
Link Posted: 9/16/2001 7:20:25 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bbauman: I will probably get flamed for this one but... CCW isn't going to help fight terrorism. The whole idea of the terrorist is to strike unexpectedly and not at a single person but at a group. CCW isn't going to stop hijackings because you can't carry on a plane. Isn't going to stop a backback nuke because you won't know its there until it goes off. Won't stop a car bomb because its just a parked car until BOOM. Same with bio/chemical agents. IF you were carrying and happened to walk by a group of terrorists making plans to bomb, poison, etc you shouldn't shoot them, call the feds (man thats hard to say). Terrorists are not going to start shooting people, not enough dead to justify it. $0.02 That said, if you live in a CCW state, get the permit. The other evils are still out there.
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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! terrorist love sheep.
Link Posted: 9/17/2001 3:29:14 PM EDT
CCW agaist terroism. What a joke. How is a pistol going to stop a Ryder truck from parking and the guys inside blow it up with them inside. To be optomistic, they would probably shoot a hole in the plane and viola plane on the ground. GG
Link Posted: 9/17/2001 4:26:59 PM EDT
they would probably shoot a hole in the plane and viola plane on the ground.
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Although the movie [b]Goldfinger[/b] has had probably the biggest impact on the world on this subject, aircraft fly pretty much just as well depressurized as they do pressurized.
Link Posted: 9/17/2001 4:54:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By SCR1: Yes! If only one person on each of the flights had a CCW then this would have never happened, or it could have prevneted lots of deaths.
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Or the one person could have been a terrorist with a forged CCW.........................
Link Posted: 9/17/2001 5:04:32 PM EDT
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