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Posted: 8/22/2017 5:34:39 PM EST

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See lots of references in shows and a couple books but don't know much about it
Enlighten me

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:35:32 PM EST

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We got our own troubles aint nobody got time for that

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:36:33 PM EST

[#2]

Civil War and chit....

Funny front sight in that AK

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:38:50 PM EST

[#3]

Actually I being a protestant do not mind eating Catholic barbq and drinking Catholic beer.

I think it is some of the same players there as here. Because we can all get along.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:39:47 PM EST

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A bunch of marxists is what they are. Trained by libyans, affiliantions with the various Red groups that used to be more active in europe.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:40:25 PM EST

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Tag.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:41:26 PM EST

[#6]

A bunch of cunts.

The fact that the British were historically a bunch of cunts to the Irish (actually, the British mostly just economically benefited from the Irish upper class being a bunch of cunts to their fellow Irishmen) doesn't make the IRA be something other than a pack of murderous marxist jackals.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:42:38 PM EST

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OST

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:42:51 PM EST

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What you did there...

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:48:13 PM EST

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Terrorist scum, funded by Communists.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:52:58 PM EST

[#10]

I'd rather talk to you about unnecessary apostrophes.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:53:55 PM EST

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Funded by SovUnion during Cold War. Ran into a few in Newport, RI, and they were Communists, to a man.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:54:26 PM EST

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Terrorist scum, funded by Communists.

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As opposed to the jihadi Taliban scum AMERICAN tax dollars funded in the mid 80s? Which was about the same time we were supplying weapons to our good friends in Iran and intelligence to Saddam? Which was about the same time we were funding Salvadoran death squads....

Context is somewhat important.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:56:28 PM EST

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Communist scum who resorted to bombing innocent women and children.

Posted: 8/22/2017 5:59:00 PM EST

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I don't know much about the political side of it but back in the 90's I used to hang out with a guy who was supposed to be involved in it and would come over to Boston for a while when things were too hot there. Had some crazy stories and brought me some cool shirts. The ex stole the shirts when she drug her wore out ass back to Boston

- for the shirts not her

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:01:55 PM EST

[#15]

nope

I withdraw from this inevitable shot show

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:01:59 PM EST

[#16]

Commies.

Little Armalite comrade?

https://youtu.be/MIvsFuk6RuE

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:04:28 PM EST

[#17]

IRA or not, I support the right of the Irish people to resist their occupation- and it can be described as nothing else.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:08:10 PM EST

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A bunch of cunts.

The fact that the British were historically a bunch of cunts to the Irish (actually, the British mostly just economically benefited from the Irish upper class being a bunch of cunts to their fellow Irishmen) doesn't make the IRA be something other than a pack of murderous marxist jackals.

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Well put.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:10:34 PM EST

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In for the American version of what the Provos are

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:11:53 PM EST

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What the fuck would we know?

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:12:34 PM EST

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Actually I being a protestant do not mind eating Catholic barbq and drinking Catholic beer.

I think it is some of the same players there as here. Because we can all get along.

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As a friend of mine from N Ireland recently said "I'm the only Prod in a shooting club full of Fenians"

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:12:46 PM EST

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Google Jack Ryan. He put an end to their fund raising in the United States

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:13:15 PM EST

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There were several versions over the years, good luck getting information, there is a shit ton of propaganda from both sides of this one.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:13:47 PM EST

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That's such a fucking fickle line it's gone far past being pathetic

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:15:02 PM EST

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Terrorist scum, funded by Communists.

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Once again......

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:16:34 PM EST

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Read this. I did my thesis on the IRA and recommend this book to anybody who wants a good overview.

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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:16:48 PM EST

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What the fuck would we know?

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Fuck all by the look of things so far

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:20:29 PM EST

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Communist scum who resorted to bombing innocent women and children.

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Total casualties attributed to the IRA -approximately 1100 of which were police or military, were less than 2000 over about 3 decades. Not exactly a "blood in the streets" insurgency in modern terms.

A weekend in Chicago is more dangerous than one in Ulster ever was.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:22:29 PM EST

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antiFa with bombs and machineguns and a penchant for killing innocent people..

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:25:15 PM EST

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Splinter group from the IRA formed in 1969 more of an offensive group sought to take the fight to the loyalists.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:25:19 PM EST

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To really understand you need to know the history of Ireland (civil war, Scots etc)

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:25:57 PM EST

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antiFa with bombs and machineguns and a penchant for killing innocent people..

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At about 20 civilian deaths per year they werent exactly running up a huge death toll. Thats Friday night numbers in the Windy City....

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:27:35 PM EST

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Fuck all by the look of things so far

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Break it down for us colonial peasants, Barney-style if you would.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:31:36 PM EST

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Total casualties attributed to the IRA -approximately 1100 of which were police or military, were less than 2000 over about 3 decades. Not exactly a "blood in the streets" insurgency in modern terms.

A weekend in Chicago is more dangerous than one in Ulster ever was.

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Just because other groups have been more violent and their victim list isn't relatively high doesn't take away from the fact that they bombed innocents. Discussion of violence in Chicago, Libya, Fallujah, etc. is irrelevant.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:39:37 PM EST

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Just because other groups have been more violent and their victim list isn't relatively high doesn't take away from the fact that they bombed innocents. Discussion of violence in Chicago, Libya, Fallujah, etc. is irrelevant.

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And we dropped firebombs on Dresden.

They call it war for a reason.

Things are not irrelevant because they dont fit into our arguments nicely.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:40:34 PM EST

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As opposed to the jihadi Taliban scum AMERICAN tax dollars funded in the mid 80s? Which was about the same time we were supplying weapons to our good friends in Iran and intelligence to Saddam? Which was about the same time we were funding Salvadoran death squads....

Context is somewhat important.

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The fuck it is. Terrorists are terrorists.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:40:36 PM EST

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IRA are marxists

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:41:26 PM EST

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Exactly

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:46:11 PM EST

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Terrorists, who are still being terrorists today. You see their handiwork show up in IEDs found in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and similar.

They are directly affiliated with Islamic terror groups and have the blood of US soldiers on their hands.

Fuck them.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:48:12 PM EST

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The fuck it is. Terrorists are terrorists.

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And so were the Founders of this nation by contemporary British accounts. So what?

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:57:23 PM EST

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A lot of the Politics behind the various IRA factions were commies. The main political party (Sinn Féin) has its roots in the Irish Communist Party.

Mostly it was a bunch of commies and socialists mixing religious conflicts and geo-political issues.

Posted: 8/22/2017 6:59:29 PM EST

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As a friend of mine from N Ireland recently said "I'm the only Prod in a shooting club full of Fenians"

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LOL

Posted: 8/22/2017 7:03:09 PM EST

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And so were the Founders of this nation by contemporary British accounts. So what?

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The fuck it is. Terrorists are terrorists.

And so were the Founders of this nation by contemporary British accounts. So what?

Are you one of those guys who equates every military action by our nation with terrorism?

Posted: 8/22/2017 7:06:28 PM EST

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See lots of references in shows and a couple books but don't know much about it
Enlighten me

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They were terrorists.

Posted: 8/22/2017 7:07:58 PM EST

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As opposed to the jihadi Taliban scum AMERICAN tax dollars funded in the mid 80s? Which was about the same time we were supplying weapons to our good friends in Iran and intelligence to Saddam? Which was about the same time we were funding Salvadoran death squads....

Context is somewhat important.

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They were well funded by American dollars too.

Posted: 8/22/2017 7:09:15 PM EST

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They like the FAL so there is that.

Posted: 8/22/2017 7:12:12 PM EST

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Are you one of those guys who equates every military action by our nation with terrorism?

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Absolutely not but it's pretty fucking disingenuous to say, "We funded the Taliban, organized them, trained them and they made 9/11 possible but THEY WERE OUR TERRORISTS THEN, so it was ok". You don't get to say, "We sent millions to death squads in El Salvador but tisk, tisk, you shouldn't fund terrorism by sending money to the IRA".....Context DOES MATTER and it's NOT irrelevant.

When you start talking about modern nation states and groups, NOBODY has clean hands and you account ALL of it or NONE of it. In that context, I'm not blaming the IRA for killing 600 civilians over nearly 30 years of war, some of whom were Government officials, Militia members etc.....

Posted: 8/22/2017 7:14:34 PM EST

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A bunch of cunts.

The fact that the British were historically a bunch of cunts to the Irish (actually, the British mostly just economically benefited from the Irish upper class being a bunch of cunts to their fellow Irishmen) doesn't make the IRA be something other than a pack of murderous marxist jackals.

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