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Posted: 12/14/2010 3:57:27 PM EDT
I am trying to find a non petroleum based lubricant, in order to lubricate some O-rings that do not play well with petroleum based lubes.

I have (and love) TW-25 lubricant and it is the only lubricant I have in the gun room that does not say it has petroleum based distillates in it. Can anyone confirm whether or not TW-25 has any petroleum in it?
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:00:43 PM EDT
[#1]
It is not petroleum based.  Using TW-25, MC-1210, or the other ones in the family in conjunction with petroleum based lubes will cause degredation
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:07:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks bro. So you are sure it is not petroleum based, right?

I appreciate the info. I was going to use it to lubricate some O-rings in all my Surefire lights, but I know you arent supposed to use Pet. based lubes or it will degrade the O-rings. Not something I have ever thought about so I figured I would ask here.

Everyone knows, ALL questions can be answered here, LOL

Thanks
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:19:38 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Thanks bro. So you are sure it is not petroleum based, right?

I appreciate the info. I was going to use it to lubricate some O-rings in all my Surefire lights, but I know you arent supposed to use Pet. based lubes or it will degrade the O-rings. Not something I have ever thought about so I figured I would ask here.

Everyone knows, ALL questions can be answered here, LOL

Thanks


You can double check the MSDS (should have that info)

Thats the info I've always gotten, in relation to M242 maintenance, and NOT using clp on it because of the petroleum/non-petroleum bad juju (it gets TW-25 and MC-1210)

I wouldn't be hurt if you gave them a call or asked around a little more either.  I'm far from the expert.  In fact, I would definately suggest calling them tomorrow

Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:24:12 PM EDT
[#5]
The consensus seems to be that it is safe to use with latex condoms. Just remember, there is no "safe sex," only "safer sex."
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:25:06 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
The consensus seems to be that it is safe to use with latex condoms. Just remember, there is no "safe sex," only "safer sex."


Damn, Beat me.
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:32:28 PM EDT
[#7]
So there I was, wandering around the pier at Kuwait Naval Base.  I had just finished cleaning up the 25mm, and applied a coat of TW-25B to all parts required.

I notice I keep getting really weird looks from everyone I passed by.  Like, dick growing out of my forehead weird looks.

So I go and look in a mirror.  Turns out while I was applying TW-25 to the gun, I got a glob on my hand, and had reached up to wipe the sweat off my face.  It looked like I had just gotten "special time" in aft berthing.

The moral of the story is, whenever applying TW-25 to anything, be sure to check your face and crotch areas for any unsightly white globs of goo
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:47:04 PM EDT
[#8]
go to a hardware/plumbing supply store.. they sell, a silicone lubricant that is safe for o-rings.. its a couple dollars for a small tube..


Brian
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:50:02 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
go to a hardware/plumbing supply store.. they sell, a silicone lubricant that is safe for o-rings.. its a couple dollars for a small tube..


Brian


Are you saying that TW25 is oil based? Or just recommending something you like better?
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 4:51:01 PM EDT
[#10]
What about white lithium grease?
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 5:08:36 PM EDT
[#11]
•  Optimizes firearm performance with very long-lasting lubrication and    corrosion protection
•  Performs dependably in all climates, under all weather conditions, on all types    of firearms
•  Works reliably in temperatures ranging from -90°F (-67°C) to +450°F (+232°C)
•  Greatly reduces friction and wear…extends the life of weapon parts
•  Repels sand, dust, grit, debris…minimizes accumulation of gun powder    residue
•  Resists wash-off, wear-off, burn-off, and evaporation between cleanings
•  Reduces time and frequency of maintenance with easy wipe-off cleaning
•  Allows storage of weapons in fire-ready condition for extended periods
•  Minimizes carbon residue, galvanic corrosion and build-up of copper and lead
•  Generally harmless to wood, rubber, plastic or composite parts
•  All synthetic, non-toxic, non-flammable and environmentally safe.


From their web site.
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 5:33:19 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
•  Optimizes firearm performance with very long-lasting lubrication and    corrosion protection
•  Performs dependably in all climates, under all weather conditions, on all types    of firearms
•  Works reliably in temperatures ranging from -90°F (-67°C) to +450°F (+232°C)
•  Greatly reduces friction and wear…extends the life of weapon parts
•  Repels sand, dust, grit, debris…minimizes accumulation of gun powder    residue
•  Resists wash-off, wear-off, burn-off, and evaporation between cleanings
•  Reduces time and frequency of maintenance with easy wipe-off cleaning
•  Allows storage of weapons in fire-ready condition for extended periods
•  Minimizes carbon residue, galvanic corrosion and build-up of copper and lead
•  Generally harmless to wood, rubber, plastic or composite parts
•  All synthetic, non-toxic, non-flammable and environmentally safe.


From their web site.


Thank you sir, hadn't seen that.

I guess they were about as clear as they could be,without having said the exact phrase, "not oil/petroleum based", LOL.

I am going to roll with it, that is clear enough. Thanks.
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 5:53:41 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
go to a hardware/plumbing supply store.. they sell, a silicone lubricant that is safe for o-rings.. its a couple dollars for a small tube..


Brian


Are you saying that TW25 is oil based? Or just recommending something you like better?


Just recommending something that definitely is safe for the o-rings and readily available..

Link Posted: 12/14/2010 5:55:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
•  Optimizes firearm performance with very long-lasting lubrication and    corrosion protection
•  Performs dependably in all climates, under all weather conditions, on all types    of firearms
•  Works reliably in temperatures ranging from -90°F (-67°C) to +450°F (+232°C)
•  Greatly reduces friction and wear…extends the life of weapon parts
•  Repels sand, dust, grit, debris…minimizes accumulation of gun powder    residue
•  Resists wash-off, wear-off, burn-off, and evaporation between cleanings
•  Reduces time and frequency of maintenance with easy wipe-off cleaning
•  Allows storage of weapons in fire-ready condition for extended periods
•  Minimizes carbon residue, galvanic corrosion and build-up of copper and lead
•  Generally harmless to wood, rubber, plastic or composite parts
•  All synthetic, non-toxic, non-flammable and environmentally safe.


From their web site.


Thank you sir, hadn't seen that.

I guess they were about as clear as they could be,without having said the exact phrase, "not oil/petroleum based", LOL.

I am going to roll with it, that is clear enough. Thanks.


the term 'generally harmless to..." is not clear cut though...
Link Posted: 12/14/2010 7:01:31 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
•  Optimizes firearm performance with very long-lasting lubrication and    corrosion protection
•  Performs dependably in all climates, under all weather conditions, on all types    of firearms
•  Works reliably in temperatures ranging from -90°F (-67°C) to +450°F (+232°C)
•  Greatly reduces friction and wear…extends the life of weapon parts
•  Repels sand, dust, grit, debris…minimizes accumulation of gun powder    residue
•  Resists wash-off, wear-off, burn-off, and evaporation between cleanings
•  Reduces time and frequency of maintenance with easy wipe-off cleaning
•  Allows storage of weapons in fire-ready condition for extended periods
•  Minimizes carbon residue, galvanic corrosion and build-up of copper and lead
•  Generally harmless to wood, rubber, plastic or composite parts
•  All synthetic, non-toxic, non-flammable and environmentally safe.


From their web site.


Thank you sir, hadn't seen that.

I guess they were about as clear as they could be,without having said the exact phrase, "not oil/petroleum based", LOL.

I am going to roll with it, that is clear enough. Thanks.


the term 'generally harmless to..." is not clear cut though...


Clear enough. Just seems like they might go ahead and say it directly, just to make sure they are explicit. Wasn't being a smart ass, just thought it was odd, given how over the top clear most companies are, given the litigious nature of society.
Link Posted: 12/15/2010 8:33:29 AM EDT
[#16]
here is the msds for the TW25 - Unless I am reading the msds wrong,  it lists several ingredients as being 'in a highly refined mineral oil' and mineral oil is a petroleum product..  so it may be a no go

Brian
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