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Posted: 11/19/2012 11:51:07 AM EST
I am planning on buying a TV for our master BR for Christmas. I have room to go about as big as 37" diagonally.

If it werent so heavy, I'd move my 37" plasma from the den to the BR but that bitch is HEAVY. About a 5 year old plasma.

I am figuring there will be some great deals this coming weekend and wanted to hear the opinion of Arfcom. I want a great HD picture and light weight, easy to hang on the BR wall above a dresser/mirror. Tons of inputs are not really needed as I doubt anything will ever be plugged in other than the DirecTV receiver, so an HDMI or 2 will likely suffice.

I havent really researched TV's lately and dont keep up with the tech anymore. Is LED considered the best now or do Plasma and LCD still factor in? Looking for a nice compromise between value, overall quality of picture and lightweight. What should I be looking at?
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 11:55:33 AM EST
I think LCD is the benchmark now. (LED is just an LCD display lighted with LED's.)

Plasma is kinda old school now from what I gather, since LCD offers a lot of benefits over it. Can't make any specific recommendations, except that I like Samsung and JVC.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 11:56:53 AM EST
get a 37 LED on black friday.



I bought a 55" LED 3D 240hz Samsung with built in Wifi. and I love it.

i have a 46" LCD Samsung that is in my bedroom. I love a big tv. especially in the bedroom, who needs mirrors when you have a camera hooked up to the big screen.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 11:59:42 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 12:00:53 PM EST by pcsutton]

Originally Posted By MikefromTX:
I think LCD is the benchmark now. (LED is just an LCD display lighted with LED's.)

Plasma is kinda old school now from what I gather, since LCD offers a lot of benefits over it. Can't make any specific recommendations, except that I like Samsung and JVC.

Plasma still gives the best picture...but they're still expensive. LCD can't get the blacks right and are more prone to artifacts.

I'd be looking at an LCD 3D. Circuit City has some smoking deals for Black Friday.

Do your research, OP. There's tons of info out there.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:00:29 PM EST
For that screen size 1080P will be irrelevant. Save some cash and stick to 720P. Plasmas are still the best display you can buy, Panasonic plasmas in particular. But again, in that size, also wont matter. Pretty much any newer, brand name (Samsung etc.) LCD should serve you well.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:00:55 PM EST
Removed the TV from the bedroom 7 years ago and we don't miss it.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:02:14 PM EST
Any Black Friday "deals" will be purpose built to the price point.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:02:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By jmill79:
For that screen size 1080P will be irrelevant. Save some cash and stick to 720P. Plasmas are still the best display you can buy, Panasonic plasmas in particular. But again, in that size, also wont matter. Pretty much any newer, brand name (Samsung etc.) LCD should serve you well.

I have a 58" Panasonic plasma that still blows my mind....especially with blue-ray.


Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:03:38 PM EST
K-Mart is having a 32" 720 LCD for under a hundred bucks.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:12:43 PM EST
I'm running a couple of JVC 55" LCD projection TV's right now, and they're outstanding. I know when I looked at plasmas they weren't as razor-sharp as the LCD's ... instead they were kind of "soft-looking" to me.

And as for blacks, you can get LCD's with contrast ratios of 50,000:1 now, and some people complain that the darks are TOO dark! I guess it's a matter of preference, but LCD is still my choice.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:15:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By David_ESM:
K-Mart is having a 32" 720 LCD for under a hundred bucks.


each store will have 1/2 of one in stock that day...
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:19:59 PM EST
Originally Posted By KA3B:
Removed the TV from the bedroom 7 years ago and we don't miss it.


+1

(except for maybe porn)
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:30:05 PM EST
50" Panasonic plasma in my bedroom - I love it.
Plasma (especially in the bedroom) has the best picture, at least in my opinion.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:38:55 PM EST
Plasma is dead and has been dead for years.

Buy a LED (that's a form of LCD that uses better back-lighting) on BF that has a name you recognize. You'll do fine.

Link Posted: 11/19/2012 12:46:04 PM EST
Move your plasma to the bedroom and upgrade that TV to something bigger and nicer. Too heavy? Ask your husband to help.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 1:02:02 PM EST
Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
Move your plasma to the bedroom and upgrade that TV to something bigger and nicer. Too heavy? Ask your husband to help.


Heavier than I would like to be hanging up. Surely some of the modern tv's are substantially lighter.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 1:23:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/19/2012 1:24:18 PM EST by kissfan]
Vizio makes a good set. I have a 32" hanging on my wall.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 1:38:35 PM EST
Look for a Samsung LED this weekend. You should be able to find a 37" or even a 40" (about 37" diagonal) for not too many bucks. We bought the wife's Mom a Samsung 37" last year for under $500.
Link Posted: 11/19/2012 1:41:11 PM EST
My 46" Samsung LCD is considerably heavier than my 55" Samsung led thin.

But my old Sony 27" CRT was like a ton of bricks. I wouldn't hang that thing from anything other than an I beam.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 3:55:36 AM EST
Trying to determine if I need a "smart" TV. I was not really for the most cutting edge, but I also dont want it to be obselete when I get it home.

Just not really sure if the "smart" attributes are that important. And Wi-fi for that matter. Is any of it needed to just watch TV?

Also, does anyone know if DirecTV offers any setup that would allow me to not have to have a receiver mounted right by the TV? Couldnt I just get a RF remote and then put the receiver in the basement? Trying to minimize clutter around the TV in the bedroom.

Lastly, does anyone know of any smoking deals that can be had this week on the internet and just have it shipped? Newegg, Best Buy, Crutchfield? Something along those lines? Would rather avoid the crowds on Black Friday.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:04:57 AM EST
A tv in the master bedroom does not compute unless it's for "how to" videos.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:06:01 AM EST
Kill your TV.

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:16:16 AM EST
Originally Posted By Merrell:
Kill your TV.


Sorry. Football.

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:21:50 AM EST
I have been running with Sony LCD's for years. They have been flawless. My 32 inch Sony on my comp has in excess of 15 thousand hours on it. Maybe closer to 20 000 by now, I haven't been in the service menu in a while.

That being said, I have never seen a Vizio Tv that I haven't been impressed with. My friend had one that just had a gorgeous picture.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:25:01 AM EST
They discontinued the Vizio I just got, luckily a few Walmarts around me still had some. But it's the best TV I've ever seen.

32" with 1080p, not 720 like most TV's in this size range. It also has a wireless-N adapter (and an ethernet port if you're going wired). Has an app store built right in, so I can play Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu+, YouTube, Facebook, etc. all on it. And it's pretty dern snappy and stable. It's also 3D ready, even came with some glasses. The picture is amazing too.

It's last year's model, but it beat out any of this year's stuff that I saw. But since they are phasing them out, you can pick it up for only $348. MSRP was around 450-500 if I remember right.

Lot's of places to buy them online too.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/VIZIO-32-Class-3D-LCD-HDTV-1080p-with-VIZIO-Internet-Apps-1080p-60Hz-E3D320VX/15992329
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:26:12 AM EST
Originally Posted By Goodn:
I have been running with Sony LCD's for years. They have been flawless. My 32 inch Sony on my comp has in excess of 15 thousand hours on it. Maybe closer to 20 000 by now, I haven't been in the service menu in a while.

That being said, I have never seen a Vizio Tv that I haven't been impressed with. My friend had one that just had a gorgeous picture.


I am not opposed to buying Vizio, so long as it has good reviews and is a value.

Just trying to determine if I need a "smart" TV, etc. And wondering who has the best deals on the internet.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:26:38 AM EST
Originally Posted By KA3B:
Removed the TV from the bedroom 7 years ago and we don't miss it.


+1

Dens are for television.

Bedrooms are for sleeping and he'in and she'in.

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:29:07 AM EST
Originally Posted By jmt1271:
Originally Posted By Goodn:
I have been running with Sony LCD's for years. They have been flawless. My 32 inch Sony on my comp has in excess of 15 thousand hours on it. Maybe closer to 20 000 by now, I haven't been in the service menu in a while.

That being said, I have never seen a Vizio Tv that I haven't been impressed with. My friend had one that just had a gorgeous picture.


I am not opposed to buying Vizio, so long as it has good reviews and is a value.

Just trying to determine if I need a "smart" TV, etc. And wondering who has the best deals on the internet.


Smart is the only way to go now days. You might not think you'll use the features now, but you will. I promise. We don't even have cable or satellite hooked up to ours. We just stream from Netflix, Amazon Prime, and from our personal media server that's full of videos I've downloaded or ripped.

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:29:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By MikefromTX:
I think LCD is the benchmark now. (LED is just an LCD display lighted with LED's.)

Plasma is kinda old school now from what I gather, since LCD offers a lot of benefits over it. Can't make any specific recommendations, except that I like Samsung and JVC.




if by benefit you mean lower picture quality, then yes LCD offer a lot of benefits



OP, mount a 42" plasma on the wall and be done




Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:30:45 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 4:32:47 AM EST by camarojsmith]
Originally Posted By KA3B:
Removed the TV from the bedroom 7 years ago and we don't miss it.


Never had one in the bedroom. No place for a tv IMO

I do have a 42" plasma in the office. It's hanging on the wall just fine. Buy the proper mounts and you'll be fine.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 4:47:01 AM EST
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Plasma is dead and has been dead for years.
...


fail
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:07:49 AM EST
Consider not putting a TV in the bedroom.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:10:44 AM EST
WiFi is the only way to go.

Stream Netflix etc to your TV.

Also my TV in my LR has not box. I have the attached uverse box in my basement.

Buffalo electronics IR repeater hooked up using cat5 from the IR eye in the LR to the distribution box in the basement.the eye looks like a decora electrical outlet with a tiny square IR eye I. The middle. It blinks green when the remote button is pressed. I think it has 4 outputs. So with the one eye you can control 4 IR devices.

I ran 25foot HDMI cables from basement to decora style double HDmi box behinfld the TV. Can't see anything very clean. I also have the 110v power outlet behind the TV. No wires.

With kids. Especially young ones. Loose wires suck.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:10:49 AM EST
Originally Posted By jmt1271:
Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
Move your plasma to the bedroom and upgrade that TV to something bigger and nicer. Too heavy? Ask your husband to help.


Heavier than I would like to be hanging up. Surely some of the modern tv's are substantially lighter.


As long as you run good-sized lag bolts into 2X4's you should be able to hang several hundred pounds.

Got a stud finder?

Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:13:00 AM EST
Originally Posted By jmt1271:
Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
Move your plasma to the bedroom and upgrade that TV to something bigger and nicer. Too heavy? Ask your husband to help.


Heavier than I would like to be hanging up. Surely some of the modern tv's are substantially lighter.


I've hung 60" Pioneers and Panasonics on the wall.


Buy a decent, tilt-able, mount and be done with it. Have your husband help you pick it up.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:14:24 AM EST
Originally Posted By Got_Guns:
WiFi is the only way to go.

Stream Netflix etc to your TV.

Also my TV in my LR has not box. I have the attached uverse box in my basement.

Buffalo electronics IR repeater hooked up using cat5 from the IR eye in the LR to the distribution box in the basement.the eye looks like a decora electrical outlet with a tiny square IR eye I. The middle. It blinks green when the remote button is pressed. I think it has 4 outputs. So with the one eye you can control 4 IR devices.

I ran 25foot HDMI cables from basement to decora style double HDmi box behinfld the TV. Can't see anything very clean. I also have the 110v power outlet behind the TV. No wires.

With kids. Especially young ones. Loose wires suck.


Very cool man.

I can't wait to have a house again and get it wired exactly like I want it.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:16:37 AM EST
plasma runs hot and uses more power, plus heavier too - LED/LCD is the way to go, less power, heat and weight.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:17:54 AM EST
Originally Posted By Rick-OShay:
Originally Posted By jmt1271:
Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
Move your plasma to the bedroom and upgrade that TV to something bigger and nicer. Too heavy? Ask your husband to help.


Heavier than I would like to be hanging up. Surely some of the modern tv's are substantially lighter.


As long as you run good-sized lag bolts into 2X4's you should be able to hang several hundred pounds.

Got a stud finder?



Just use a tiny drill bit to find the center of the stud. Find the stud by tapping on the wall and listening for the sound to change.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:18:29 AM EST
Originally Posted By eagle308us:
A tv in the master bedroom does not compute unless it's for "how to" videos.


Came to post this. I just cannot understand having a TV in my bedroom.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:23:02 AM EST
Originally Posted By ChuckD05:
Originally Posted By Rick-OShay:
Originally Posted By jmt1271:
Originally Posted By FuriousYachtsman:
Move your plasma to the bedroom and upgrade that TV to something bigger and nicer. Too heavy? Ask your husband to help.


Heavier than I would like to be hanging up. Surely some of the modern tv's are substantially lighter.


As long as you run good-sized lag bolts into 2X4's you should be able to hang several hundred pounds.

Got a stud finder?



Just use a tiny drill bit to find the center of the stud. Find the stud by tapping on the wall and listening for the sound to change.




That's a horrible idea. Don't do that unless you want a bunch of holes in your wall.

Get a $15 stud finder and do it right.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:39:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 5:41:16 AM EST by zaskar017]
Originally Posted By armoredsaint:
plasma runs hot and uses more power, plus heavier too - LED/LCD is the way to go, less power, heat and weight.


51" plasma with wifi

Weight without Stand 47.3 lbs
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_30551P7000/Samsung-PN51E7000.html?tp=36003#details-tab

50" Led with wifi

Weight without Stand 34.6 lbs
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_30550E5300/Samsung-UN50EH5300.html?tp=35945#details-tab


Eta: not sure the differences are at a point I would discount a Plasma because they are heavier and use more energy
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:42:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:44:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 5:51:44 AM EST by Paul]
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:49:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:50:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/20/2012 5:54:16 AM EST by Admiral_Crunch]

Originally Posted By Cleatus:
Originally Posted By David_ESM:
K-Mart is having a 32" 720 LCD for under a hundred bucks.


each store will have 1/2 of one in stock that day...

I lost.


I was actually going to suggest that deal if image quality isn't high priority. I know it's not in my bedroom.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:58:07 AM EST
I REALLY love my 55" Samsung SMART TV. its a 6500 series that has wifi built in and VERY lightweight. I'm sure they make them in a 32" or 36" that can fit in your spot. try to stay at 6500 series or above.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 5:59:31 AM EST
Plasma is Best for Darker rooms

For Brighter rooms LCD is better



Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:02:17 AM EST
Don't put a TV in your bedroom at all. Obesity and sexlessness will follow.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:44:51 AM EST

Originally Posted By zaskar017:
Originally Posted By armoredsaint:
plasma runs hot and uses more power, plus heavier too - LED/LCD is the way to go, less power, heat and weight.


51" plasma with wifi
http://www2.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/products/2012/17/305/h30551P7000-E.jpeg
Weight without Stand 47.3 lbs
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_30551P7000/Samsung-PN51E7000.html?tp=36003#details-tab

50" Led with wifi
http://www2.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/products/2012/16/305/h30550E5300-E.jpeg
Weight without Stand 34.6 lbs
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_30550E5300/Samsung-UN50EH5300.html?tp=35945#details-tab


Eta: not sure the differences are at a point I would discount a Plasma because they are heavier and use more energy

but it does run hot, i have a samsuck plasma and switched to another samsuck led in my man cave and the heat makes it not as fun in the summers
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:47:08 AM EST
Originally Posted By MikefromTX:
I think LCD is the benchmark now. (LED is just an LCD display lighted with LED's.)

Plasma is kinda old school now from what I gather, since LCD offers a lot of benefits over it. Can't make any specific recommendations, except that I like Samsung and JVC.


Please.

Plasma is still the benchmark for picture quality.
Link Posted: 11/20/2012 6:48:04 AM EST
Originally Posted By Justa_TXguy:
Plasma is dead and has been dead for years.

Buy a LED (that's a form of LCD that uses better back-lighting) on BF that has a name you recognize. You'll do fine.



Dumb post is dumb. Plasma is quite alive and still delivering better picture than LCD.
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