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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:43:12 AM EDT
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government theft.
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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:45:54 AM EDT
[#2]
wheres the headscarfs, they should confiscate those to
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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:47:20 AM EDT
[#3]
some of those are good deals!
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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:49:59 AM EDT
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How would you propose they deal with it then? Stupid people trying to bring knives onto planes deserve what they get, and security ain't free, so this is the result.
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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:53:22 AM EDT
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Do they have any box cutters?
Oh, that's right, they missed those 
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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:53:50 AM EDT
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Just keep telling yourself that federalizing airport screeners automatically makes them professionals.
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Posted: 9/1/2004 7:59:03 AM EDT
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Was I critiquing it? |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:00:56 AM EDT
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Good way to fund projects
A friend of mine has a brother that works for TSA and last year he brought home a 55 gallon drum of knives and multi-tools |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:02:00 AM EDT
[#9]
Sorry - should've quoted - not you, Hound... |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:06:09 AM EDT
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no prob - might be a good time to buy Leatherman or Victorinox stock (if the nimrods have to keep replacing their multitools & SAK's every time they fly)
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:21:25 AM EDT
[#11]
+1 |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:23:08 AM EDT
[#12]
yup |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:24:55 AM EDT
[#13]
But its for your own good. 
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:25:26 AM EDT
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Uh, yeah, if you don't mind profiting from stolen goods, then yes, it's a good way to fund something. I look at this with the same disdain that I look at those seized vehicle auctions. Fine, some cars are reposessed, but most are simply taken by the state based on property forfeiture laws. Pretty sad. Just remember, if it can happen to someone else, it can happen to you, too. |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:29:15 AM EDT
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The TSA should provide a way for you to retain your personal possesions, either by having availabe (at a fee) a postage paid mailer you can drop the offending article in, or boxes available that one can rent to store ones goods. Anything else is theft. I am going to follow these auctions and report them as theft to Ebay, just for fun, lets see what happens. |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:41:06 AM EDT
[#16]
Taking any items from law abiding citizens does not make safety. Hell I wish they would issue machetes upon boarding.
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Posted: 9/1/2004 8:50:21 AM EDT
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Read the description of the items from eBay! "This property is from items surrendered (voluntarily) to the NTSA at various airports that have been released to the City of Boulder City for disposal via internet auction in accordance with all federal, state and local laws." |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 9:14:39 AM EDT
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I forgot to take out my multi tool before getting on a plane. TSA stopped me and the guy walked me to the post office counter to mail it to myself. It was a cheapie and I told him I'd just surrender it but he practically insisted that I mail it to myself so I did. This was in New Orleans.
I think the existance TSA airport screeners are just an expensive feel-good move by the gov but at least this guy was polite and reasonable as could be expected. |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 9:15:20 AM EDT
[#19]
+1 Damn straight there are some very good deals there. I think I'll have to add them to my wtch list. 
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Posted: 9/1/2004 9:18:49 AM EDT
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My father got on a plane from CA to WI a few weeks ago. Forgot to remove his lil' swiss army knife keychain before going through screening. NTSA officer noticed it and said they'd either confiscate it, he could take it to his vehicle or mail it home (if he vehicle wasn't there). He took it back to his car.
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Posted: 9/1/2004 9:55:14 AM EDT
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Well that's one way to reduce the deficit.
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Posted: 9/1/2004 9:58:20 AM EDT
[#22]
+2 |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 10:04:43 AM EDT
[#23]
Yep, that's the policy now. Early on, though, I'm pretty sure that the policy was confiscation or not fly. |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 10:12:00 AM EDT
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YOu can be arrested, or 'voluntarily' surrender it... Like you REALLY have a choice... |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 10:44:20 AM EDT
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I believe the situation is that they find a knife/tool and you have the option of returning it to the car, etc. or just giving it up. Not to hard to figure that most people would say "F-it" and give it up. At least this is what I read in an article a while back. |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 1:27:59 PM EDT
[#26]
You can't bring fire on the plane .
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Posted: 9/1/2004 4:24:21 PM EDT
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Make it available for them to mail it back to their home address. Make them pay for it, but make it available. Other wise, yes, it's government theft! |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 4:31:34 PM EDT
[#28]
yea it is called a lighter!!! |
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Posted: 9/1/2004 4:41:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Voluntary surrender, or take it to yourcar/mail it, has been the policy of TSA since JUL 2002 at least. My kid brother went to work for them in Jul 02, shortly after he started I asked him how that policy worked, and that is what it was then, although they do have the power to have your ass arrested for attempting to smuggle weapons aboard an aircraft, maybe they should do that a little more often, at least every dickhead who forgets to check his pockets before they leave won't call him a thief. When I asked my brother about thier policy he told me that the collected items were destroyed, (he is a knife fanatic, so that is something he was aware of), but I guess policies may have changed.
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Posted: 9/1/2004 10:24:16 PM EDT
[#30]
Some one missed a good thread. |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 12:16:21 AM EDT
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I've flown a number of times since 9/11. I've witnessed several people who explicitly CHOSE to give up their banned item instead of mailing it back to themselves, even though there was time to do so. In each incident, the person admitted without any prompting that they knew they had been an idiot to bring in an item they knew was banned, and didn't want to be bothered with dealing with it.
When I fly, I ALWAYS have a knife, but I check it with my baggage. No problem. While certainly there are folks who arrive at the gate too late to do anything but surrender their banned item, it is STILL a case of that person not taking reponsibility to not carry the item to the security gate. I have no problem with this (of course, I'd PREFER a system where everyone could CCW, but that's just not gonna happen).
It depends on the airport's or cities'/state's policy. Some cities and states have laws against destroying perfectly good property that can be sold (and money recovered). Others have laws that require destruction, and still others have no laws, so it's up to whomever is in charge. -Troy |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 6:49:26 AM EDT
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Oh yeah - make more bureaucracy because some bonehead forget he brought a switchblade to the airport - just think, people!
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Posted: 9/2/2004 6:55:00 AM EDT
[#33]
ya'll wanted the gubmit in charge of airport security (oxymorn, I'm sure)!
becarefull what you ask for, you just may get it! |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 7:12:55 AM EDT
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Actually, the AIRLINES wanted the .gov put in charge of security. It took a huge expense off of them & put it right on us taxpayers. More .gov subsidies for rich corporations. Further, even if the airline industry is in financial trouble, why do I have to pay for it if I choose not to fly? FWIW, I have made quite a few long drives in the last year just to avoid the airlines & their piss poor service. |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 7:20:11 AM EDT
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Erm, last time I was in an airport, there were pre-paid mailers available at every junkshop in the concourse so you could mail the stuff back to yourself. They were a little expensive ($5?) but they would get the job done. This was the case in Newark, Baltimore, and New Orleans.
Now Charles DeGaulle they were REAL pricks at. Since the ban on luggage locks, I use zip ties on my luggage while flying (and keep locks in the bag for hotel rooms and the like). Some asshole french rentacop demanded I pop the ties. I didn't have anything to pop them with, though he had a sheath knife on his belt. I asked for his help or the use of his knife, he refused with a big smile. I ended up spending 5 mins wrestling with the tie and a bic pen, which eventually got me through. I wasn't sad to see that place collapse, that's for damn sure. Dominican security are very nice though.. Firm, but polite and personable while they're rifling through your dirty britches. |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 7:26:35 AM EDT
[#36]
+1 
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Posted: 9/2/2004 8:47:58 AM EDT
[#37]
Is this any different than government auto auctions?
I'd have to say if you are dumb enough to try to get on a plane with one of these knives you get what you deserve. Those are some pretty great deals. If you could get an assortment of knives for that cheap you could resell them either on eBay or at a flea market and easily double your money. |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 1:10:19 PM EDT
[#38]
I carry a pocket multi-tool every day of my life. It's like putting on underwear. If you forget, it is your fault and responsibility, but you are quite far from an idiot. |
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Posted: 9/2/2004 6:01:01 PM EDT
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Same reason some people pay education taxes but home school their kids. Or why we have to pay into welfare but could give a rats ass about all the crack whores out there who milk it. The operative phrase here is "have to". If we could chose what we did and didn't shell out our hard earned money for we'd live in a democracy, not a republic. The needs of the stupid far outweigh the need of everyone else. 
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Posted: 9/2/2004 6:13:47 PM EDT
[#40]
Its exactly what it is. If there are any profits, they should go towards charities. |
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