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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:34:52 AM EDT
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Looks like all the guy did was write the 4th Amendment on his chest/stomach - gets detained for 90 minutes handcuffed, charges later dropped. Now on for a 250K lawsuit WTF is with TSA? How in the hell is the writing on a guy's chest worth handcuffing him over? This country is slipping away and fast. if you are not in lock step with the facist element, you are the enemy 
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:37:11 AM EDT
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DHS considers the 4th Amendment a Fatwa
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:38:25 AM EDT
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Good for the kid... Freedom of speech and all that. I dont blame him one bit. The TSA's actions (by the article) were purely unjustified in my opinion. Doesn't state that the kid was being a wise-ass or anything like that.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:40:06 AM EDT
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DHS considers the 4th Amendment a Fatwa Haven't they gotten to the forth for tp use yet? Wiped their collective asses with the rest of it already. Does anyone think any good will come of any of this? |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:41:23 AM EDT
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A 21-year-old Virginia man who wrote an abbreviated version of the Fourth Amendment on his body and stripped to his shorts at an airport security screening area is demanding $250,000 in damages for being detained on a disorderly conduct charge.
I think the charges were bullshit, but the kid was trying to provoke them. Good on him. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:41:55 AM EDT
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"while under interrogation on December 30, the authorities wanted to know
"about his affiliation with, or knowledge of, any terrorist organizations" there are not enough of these  in the universe to express how screwed up the TSA/Feds arewhat if he had a copy of the Constitution on him as well? |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:42:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: A 21-year-old Virginia man who wrote an abbreviated version of the Fourth Amendment on his body and stripped to his shorts at an airport security screening area is demanding $250,000 in damages for being detained on a disorderly conduct charge. I think the charges were bullshit, but the kid was trying to provoke them. Good on him. I'm proud to see college kids with the balls to do this |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:43:41 AM EDT
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Shut up peasant! Dont wave your fancy BOR at me!
Now show me your papers and get naked. Its sad that when invoking the very documents this country was/is supposed to be founded on they consider you a terrorist. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:44:01 AM EDT
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I'm just sayin' that if I was built like that kid, I'd never wear a shirt anywhere.
No homo. 
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:44:35 AM EDT
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DHS considers the 4th Amendment a Fatwa Concur. TSA and DHS isn't about safety. It's about reminding the people that they're peons, subjects of the king (and the corporations that give him his marching orders), and that the government controls the peons, not vice-versa. BTW, during WW II the American Army picked the biggest, Afro-American soldiers to be black-MPs. For the most part, white MPs would handle white enlisted men and black-MPs would handle Afro-American soldiers. They were encouraged to be rough if resisted. We say that very same mindset being used against We The People today. Hire the high-school grad with little potential and little skill and suddenly endow him or her with awesome powers, powers that they don't hesitate to use because they don't have enough intelligence to understand the law. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:45:21 AM EDT
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Good for him.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:47:49 AM EDT
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My only issue with this is ... he could have made it look a little better. It's kinda obvious he did it in the mirror.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:49:03 AM EDT
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I'm just sayin' that if I was built like that kid, I'd never wear a shirt anywhere. No homo. Reverify gaydar direction. One ping only. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:52:40 AM EDT
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The comments have devolved into a race issue, started by someone afflicted with a terrible case of white guilt.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:52:46 AM EDT
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Shut up peasant! Dont wave your fancy BOR at me! Now show me your papers and get naked. Its sad that when invoking the very documents this country was/is supposed to be founded on they consider you a terrorist. So very, very sad. If I knew anyone with balls, I'd take $39 flights until I banked 2 million in suits. What's a flight to Cleveland - like $39. Flights out are double 
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:53:03 AM EDT
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http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2011/03/13782919_BG11.jpeg My only issue with this is ... he could have made it look a little better. It's kinda obvious he did it in the mirror. Yeah the backwards "4" gave it away.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:53:28 AM EDT
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http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2011/03/13782919_BG11.jpeg My only issue with this is ... he could have made it look a little better. It's kinda obvious he did it in the mirror. The backwards 4 really gives it away, no? |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:53:39 AM EDT
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I think it probably had more to do with him taking his clothes off then what was written on his chest.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:55:48 AM EDT
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It would have been easier if he just wore the t-shirt.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:56:35 AM EDT
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I think it probably had more to do with him taking his clothes off then what was written on his chest. Well it's not like he just stripped down to flash them. He opted for the pat-down knowing full well that he'd be shirtless. So yes, he was trying to stick it to them, but his method was not illegal. It sounds more like they got their panties in a bunch over it and wanted to put him in his place for it. I'm just sayin' that if I was built like that kid, I'd never wear a shirt anywhere.
If that's the plan it'd be better off getting a quality tattoo. Hell might even be able to fit the whole 4A that way. 
O wait never mind. I like that shirt. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:57:52 AM EDT
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can't believe I'm the first to say it, but...
What's his user name? Right on, kid! Good show. 
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:58:33 AM EDT
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The kid needs a hair cut.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 8:59:30 AM EDT
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http://cargocollective.com/4thamendment
Found the store that sells those things. hmmm. looks like they do underwear too. and socks. i love crazy socks. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:00:08 AM EDT
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So you display an amendment of the U.S. Constitution on your body or otherwise and you are automatically suspected of involvment with terrorists?
WTF? U.S. Constitution = terrorist/terrorism/terrorist activity/terrorist association ????????????????????????????????????????????? |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:00:22 AM EDT
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It would have been easier if he just wore the t-shirt. Thats awsome |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:01:07 AM EDT
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I'm just sayin' that if I was built like that kid, I'd never wear a shirt anywhere. No homo.  Reverify gaydar direction. One ping only.   
What you did there –– I see it. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:02:09 AM EDT
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A 21-year-old Virginia man who wrote an abbreviated version of the Fourth Amendment on his body and stripped to his shorts at an airport security screening area is demanding $250,000 in damages for being detained on a disorderly conduct charge.
I think the charges were bullshit, but the kid was trying to provoke them. Good on him. Pretty sad when the constitution "provokes" government agents into arresting you.  
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:02:47 AM EDT
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This country is slipping away and fast. if you are not in lock step with the facist element, you are the enemy Please stop with the "This country is going to pot" garbage. If anything this is a story about how our country is still great. We have youth who are adamant about protecting their rights. ETA: Good job kid. Sounds like he played his cards perfectly. Stayed calm and made a clear point. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:03:17 AM EDT
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Unfortunately, we are the ones paying for this lawsuit. (Well, some of us)
I'm totally for it though. I hope a lot more people jump on the bandwagon and sue. We need to do away with the scanners and molestations ("Patdowns"). |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:04:13 AM EDT
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... if you are not in lock step with the facist element, you are the enemy "Facist element"? Kind of over the top, don't you think? I hope this young man wins his lawsuit and embarrasses the idiots in the TSA. If I had thought of this, I would have had room to write the whole Bill of Rights on my belly.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:05:33 AM EDT
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This country is slipping away and fast. if you are not in lock step with the facist element, you are the enemy Please stop with the "This country is going to pot" garbage. If anything this is a story about how our country is still great. We have youth who are adamant about protecting their rights. I call 'em like I see 'em. The 4th Amendment no entitles you to a 90 minute handcuffed detention - yeah - that the kinda shit that made this country great . . .
Garbage . . . . mmmkay |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:05:49 AM EDT
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Quoted: It would have been easier if he just wore the t-shirt. I need one of those. Might pick a couple up for Christmas presents too.  Oh, good on the kid. I hope he wins his lawsuit. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:06:13 AM EDT
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... if you are not in lock step with the facist element, you are the enemy "Facist element"? Kind of over the top, don't you think? I hope this young man wins his lawsuit and embarrasses the idiots in the TSA. If I had thought of this, I would have had room to write the whole Bill of Rights on my belly.
No I don't really . . . what would you call it? |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:08:22 AM EDT
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I'm just sayin' that if I was built like that kid, I'd never wear a shirt anywhere. No homo. Reverify gaydar direction. One ping only. He may have tried one too many Crazy Ivan's. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:08:27 AM EDT
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I think it probably had more to do with him taking his clothes off then what was written on his chest. Well it's not like he just stripped down to flash them. He opted for the pat-down knowing full well that he'd be shirtless. So yes, he was trying to stick it to them, but his method was not illegal. It sounds more like they got their panties in a bunch over it and wanted to put him in his place for it. I'm just sayin' that if I was built like that kid, I'd never wear a shirt anywhere.
If that's the plan it'd be better off getting a quality tattoo. Hell might even be able to fit the whole 4A that way.
Pp O wait never mind. I like that shirt. You don't take your clothes off for the pat down if you opt out of the X-ray. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:10:38 AM EDT
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A 21-year-old Virginia man who wrote an abbreviated version of the Fourth Amendment on his body and stripped to his shorts at an airport security screening area is demanding $250,000 in damages for being detained on a disorderly conduct charge.
I think the charges were bullshit, but the kid was trying to provoke them. Good on him. Pretty sad when the constitution "provokes" government agents into arresting you. The 4th isn't what provoked them. Stripping down to his skivvies is what provoked them. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:10:39 AM EDT
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http://cargocollective.com/4thamendment Found the store that sells those things. hmmm. looks like they do underwear too. and socks. i love crazy socks. SWEET! |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:10:58 AM EDT
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It would have been easier if he just wore the t-shirt. Thats fucking awesome!!!!!!!! 
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:11:28 AM EDT
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... if you are not in lock step with the facist element, you are the enemy "Facist element"? Kind of over the top, don't you think? I hope this young man wins his lawsuit and embarrasses the idiots in the TSA. If I had thought of this, I would have had room to write the whole Bill of Rights on my belly.
No I don't really . . . what would you call it? Exactly, The ONLY thing over the top is TSA..IMO, they are a facist element that wants everyone to adhere to their "RULES" , the constitution be damned |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:12:21 AM EDT
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DHS considers the 4th Amendment a Fatwa Haven't they gotten to the forth for tp use yet? Wiped their collective asses with the rest of it already. Does anyone think any good will come of any of this? Yes - it will deter TSA and airport police from being overbearing shitheads in the future. Which is the main purpose of the lawsuit. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:13:36 AM EDT
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The 4th was shredded long ago in the war on drugs.
FTA, the kid was detained for disrobing, not for having the text inked on him. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:14:21 AM EDT
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I'm just sayin' that if I was built like that kid, I'd never wear a shirt anywhere. No homo. Reverify gaydar direction. One ping only. He may have tried one too many Crazy Ivan's. Thtop it, you guyth. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:14:42 AM EDT
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... if you are not in lock step with the facist element, you are the enemy "Facist element"? Kind of over the top, don't you think? I hope this young man wins his lawsuit and embarrasses the idiots in the TSA. If I had thought of this, I would have had room to write the whole Bill of Rights on my belly.
"Fascist" may not be a perfectly accurate description of government agents who detain citizens with no grounds to believe that the citizens have broken or are about to break any law, but it's close enough. I personally prefer "unemployed" and/or "corpse." |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:15:09 AM EDT
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A 21-year-old Virginia man who wrote an abbreviated version of the Fourth Amendment on his body and stripped to his shorts at an airport security screening area is demanding $250,000 in damages for being detained on a disorderly conduct charge.
I think the charges were bullshit, but the kid was trying to provoke them. Good on him. Pretty sad when the constitution "provokes" government agents into arresting you. The 4th isn't what provoked them. Stripping down to his skivvies is what provoked them. Bullshit. His message is what provoked them. A man in shorts isn't breaking any public decency laws. And people who wear blue undies aren't routinely questioned about terrorist links. The fact they did not arrest him for anything only goes to show that this 90-minute detainment was nothing more than an attempt to punish and intimidate him. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:15:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: "while under interrogation on December 30, the authorities wanted to know "about his affiliation with, or knowledge of, any terrorist organizations" there are not enough of these in the universe to express how screwed up the TSA/Feds arewhat if he had a copy of the Constitution on him as well? They would have sent him to Gitmo.
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:16:44 AM EDT
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The 4th was shredded long ago in the war on drugs. FTA, the kid was detained for disrobing, not for having the text inked on him. What is the legal meaning or effect of disrobing? |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:19:19 AM EDT
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I can see how that's disorderly conduct. 90 minutes is about right.
Good for the kid though. A little social disobedience is a good thing. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:20:13 AM EDT
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This country is slipping away and fast. if you are not in lock step with the facist element, you are the enemy Please stop with the "This country is going to pot" garbage. If anything this is a story about how our country is still great. We have youth who are adamant about protecting their rights. I call 'em like I see 'em. The 4th Amendment no entitles you to a 90 minute handcuffed detention - yeah - that the kinda shit that made this country great . . .
Garbage . . . . mmmkay And they'll keep doing it until enough people stand up for what's right. Like this kid. I guess I 'm just a glass half full kind of guy. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:20:15 AM EDT
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The 4th isn't what provoked them. Stripping down to his skivvies is what provoked them. Bullshit. His message is what provoked them. A man in shorts isn't breaking any public decency laws. And people who wear blue undies aren't routinely questioned about terrorist links. The fact they did not arrest him for anything only goes to show that this 90-minute detainment was nothing more than an attempt to punish and intimidate him. I think the kid did a great thing. That being said his actions, stripping down in the security line for a patdown, would have gotten him the same treatment regardless of what was on his chest. It certainly was about intimidation, punishment, and an attempt to prevent furutre copy-cats. |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:20:46 AM EDT
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I read the article and it was not clear on one point:
Was he ordered to take his shirt off? Or did he take it upon himself to remove it? |
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Posted: 3/16/2011 9:21:46 AM EDT
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I read the article and it was not clear on one point: Was he ordered to take his shirt off? Or did he take it upon himself to remove it? He did it on his own. I think there is video... wait one... Video and pictures here: link |
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