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Link Posted: 8/21/2023 9:19:25 PM EST
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Pfizer's study included nearly 7,400 pregnant women plus their babies. Maternal vaccination didn't prevent mild RSV infection — but it proved 82% effective at preventing a severe case during babies' first three months of life.
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Where have i heard this claim before?

PWS
Link Posted: 8/21/2023 10:36:29 PM EST
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:
Originally Posted By RSG:
COVID Mandates Return to Hollywood: Lionsgate Requires Employees to Mask Up, Submit to Daily Testing

COVID mask mandates are returning to Hollywood, with Lionsgate being the first major studio to reinstate masking and daily testing for its Los Angeles office workers.

Lionsgate is requiring employees who physically work at its headquarters in Santa Monica to wear masks at all times when in the building, effective immediately, except when alone in an enclosed office or large open workspace. In addition, employees are required to submit to daily COVID testing and to report the results to the company, according to an internal memo obtained by Deadline.

Employees must wear “a medical grade face covering (surgical mask, KN95 or N95) when indoors except when alone in an office with the door closed, actively eating, actively drinking at their desk or workstation, or if they are the only individual present in a large open workspace,” the memo reportedly states.

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It's spreading.

https://www.ajc.com/education/atlanta-college-reinstates-covid-19-mask-mandate-as-students-return-to-city/VRAZSDSKJ5B2DG4L7D6I7GCR7I/
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Just two more weeks, we promise.
Link Posted: 8/21/2023 11:54:20 PM EST
[#3]
Don't test , don't mask , don't vax
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 3:44:03 PM EST
[#4]
I have taken a break from here or I would be banned....

Roughly two weeks ago my brother ended up being sent by ambulance to the ER, excessive heart rate.  He now has an ICD implanted and on toxic drugs to prevent his heart rate from spiking.  He only got the first jab of Pfraud and wasn't considered vaccinated.  Had to get several test, of which in quite a few of them the doctors told him there have been younger people than him with the same condition and he is fortunate to made it this far without the issue.

insert "C motherfucking OC" violation here.....


I saw where they claimed that they never restricted doctors from prescribing IVM and some of the adds they ran against it posted already......didn't see this posted but might have missed it.

Link Posted: 8/22/2023 4:18:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:
I have taken a break from here or I would be banned....

Roughly two weeks ago my brother ended up being sent by ambulance to the ER, excessive heart rate.  He now has an ICD implanted and on toxic drugs to prevent his heart rate from spiking.  He only got the first jab of Pfraud and wasn't considered vaccinated.  Had to get several test, of which in quite a few of them the doctors told him there have been younger people than him with the same condition and he is fortunate to made it this far without the issue.

insert "C motherfucking OC" violation here.....


I saw where they claimed that they never restricted doctors from prescribing IVM and some of the adds they ran against it posted already......didn't see this posted but might have missed it.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/476040/IMG_0783-2928629.jpg
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It's beyond criminal what AUS is doing to this Dr for prescribing IVM and speaking out against the government.
https://twitter.com/myletrinh123
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:09:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mr_Woodsy:

It's beyond criminal what AUS is doing to this Dr for prescribing IVM and speaking out against the government.
https://twitter.com/myletrinh123
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:
I have taken a break from here or I would be banned....

Roughly two weeks ago my brother ended up being sent by ambulance to the ER, excessive heart rate.  He now has an ICD implanted and on toxic drugs to prevent his heart rate from spiking.  He only got the first jab of Pfraud and wasn't considered vaccinated.  Had to get several test, of which in quite a few of them the doctors told him there have been younger people than him with the same condition and he is fortunate to made it this far without the issue.

insert "C motherfucking OC" violation here.....


I saw where they claimed that they never restricted doctors from prescribing IVM and some of the adds they ran against it posted already......didn't see this posted but might have missed it.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/476040/IMG_0783-2928629.jpg

It's beyond criminal what AUS is doing to this Dr for prescribing IVM and speaking out against the government.
https://twitter.com/myletrinh123


I remember seeing those charts of various countries that showed the covid waves, and Australia was interesting in that they had largely dodged the whole covid thing throughout 2020 and it didn't hit there until they got vaxxed up.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 6:30:06 PM EST
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Cases have doubled!  



Link Posted: 8/23/2023 8:58:25 AM EST
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Came across this. My suspicion is this isn't the only letter from experts that disagreed with the official narrative that was received by the Center for Deceptive Control:

Letter from top epidemiologist

As more FOIA requests bear fruit, there will be more of this kind of thing.
Link Posted: 8/23/2023 9:21:55 AM EST
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Fauci declares lockdowns were 'absolutely justified' and suggests they should be used again to force vaccinations

“If you have a vaccine available, you might want to lock down temporarily so you can get everybody vaccinated”


The conversation continued, with the longtime NIAID chief declaring that “climate change” is “playing a role” in causing outbreaks.

He then calls for an “international commitment to decrease the carbon imprint in society so you don’t have the kinds of crazy weather we’re having in this country.”

He went on to blame the tragedy in Maui on climate change. “It’s completely, really amazing what’s happened with climate change,” he concludes.
Link Posted: 8/23/2023 9:30:16 AM EST
[#10]


BOOM: Florida To Officially Classify mRNA COVID Shots As Illegal ‘Bio-Weapons’

Lawmakers in Florida have announced plans to officially designate mRNA Covid vaccines as “bio-weapons” that are hazardous to human health.

The proposed law seeks to BAN the administration of mRNA shots to anybody in the state.

The Brevard Republican Executive Committee has urged Gov. Ron DeSantis to sign the legislation, which will outlaw Covid-19 vaccines, as soon as possible.

The non-binding resolution was passed by a supermajority vote of committee membership Thursday. It now goes to DeSantis to sign.

http://Floridatoday.com reports: A draft version of the resolution reviewed by reporters closely mirrors one passed by the Lee County Republican Party in February, drawing national headlines.

“Strong and credible evidence has recently been revealed that Covid-19 and Covid-19 injections are biological and technological weapons,” the Brevard draft resolution says, citing claims that have been disproven and disputed by respected medical groups.

“An enormous number of humans have died or been permanently disabled” by the vaccine, it says. “Government agencies, media and tech companies, and other corporations, have committed enormous fraud by claiming Covid-19 injections are safe and effective.”

It calls on DeSantis to ban sale and distribution of the vaccine “and all related vaccines,” and for Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody to seize all remaining doses in the state for safety testing, “on behalf of the preservation of the human race,” it says.

It also calls for mandatory disclosures on any product in the state “using mRNA or gene altering or therapeutic technology.”

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/florida-to-officially-classify-mrna-covid-shots-as-illegal-bio-weapons/
Link Posted: 8/24/2023 9:44:38 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/24/2023 10:02:10 AM EST
[#12]


For the general public, the agency says Americans should consider self-testing and masking for contact with others who are at high risk.

They also continue to urge people to get the updated COVID shots, after they are expected to be recommended next month, and stay home if you are sick
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Link Posted: 8/24/2023 10:11:33 AM EST
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I thought the much heralded "vaccine" was suppose to solve this problem?

No?

How come?

We all know it's safe and effective, so how can this possibly be?

Oh well, nevermind any of that talk. We must now patiently await the next new vaccine, which will surely be the answer to solving the upcoming crises.
Link Posted: 8/24/2023 2:16:01 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/24/2023 4:40:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Laredo:



I thought the much heralded "vaccine" was suppose to solve this problem?

No?

How come?

We all know it's safe and effective, so how can this possibly be?

Oh well, nevermind any of that talk. We must now patiently await the next new vaccine, which will surely be the answer to solving the upcoming crises.
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Originally Posted By Laredo:
Originally Posted By RSG:

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1694444566014050304/Gus2k3kz?format=webp&name=small



I thought the much heralded "vaccine" was suppose to solve this problem?

No?

How come?

We all know it's safe and effective, so how can this possibly be?

Oh well, nevermind any of that talk. We must now patiently await the next new vaccine, which will surely be the answer to solving the upcoming crises.

I have my theory….
Link Posted: 8/24/2023 7:26:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

I have my theory….
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That the next vaccine will save us all from the perpetual new variant?

[three scoops of sarcasm]
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 10:28:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By RSG:




Where have i heard this claim before?

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Originally Posted By RSG:


Pfizer's study included nearly 7,400 pregnant women plus their babies. Maternal vaccination didn't prevent mild RSV infection — but it proved 82% effective at preventing a severe case during babies' first three months of life.


Where have i heard this claim before?



This is the wild part - People who say
"Okay so maybe they just "got it wrong" on how well the covid jabs would work, on what they would do (prevent transmission vs "might lessen your case"), on how long they would last, on how well they would do vs future variants they had to anticipate being a reality
On lockdowns, on masks and all that

BUT!!!
They got it right on IVM and every single other vaccine product is totally, totally fine and very effective too."



Some degree of skepticism is, IMHO, rational.
Did they miss one or two? I don't think that's impossible.

If we believe the skeptics, the COVID vaccine failures were closer to the "par for the course" and the "system working as intended and designed" than we would wish to be the case.

Link Posted: 8/25/2023 10:29:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:
I have taken a break from here or I would be banned....

Roughly two weeks ago my brother ended up being sent by ambulance to the ER, excessive heart rate.  He now has an ICD implanted and on toxic drugs to prevent his heart rate from spiking.  He only got the first jab of Pfraud and wasn't considered vaccinated.  Had to get several test, of which in quite a few of them the doctors told him there have been younger people than him with the same condition and he is fortunate to made it this far without the issue.

insert "C motherfucking OC" violation here.....


I saw where they claimed that they never restricted doctors from prescribing IVM and some of the adds they ran against it posted already......didn't see this posted but might have missed it.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/476040/IMG_0783-2928629.jpg
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I'm sorry to hear that man
Fingers crossed for him!

ETA: IMHO The Sweden vs Australia kills the "Time Delay Long COVIDTM" meme.
Sweden didn't lock down at all. It should have had the earliest mortality rate problems, and the most severe, if this was Long-COVID related.
(after all, they ran right through the earliest variants which were arguably the worst)
It would be going through that curve first and most dramatically.

Australia had camps.
Lockdowns are comparatively more "Effective" on Island countries that can easily shut down travel from outsiders.
They likely had more people who got jabbed before getting COVID, which, SHOULD have reversed these numbers, and dramatically so - IF the official memes are correct.

Link Posted: 8/25/2023 10:33:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By APPARITION:


BOOM: Florida To Officially Classify mRNA COVID Shots As Illegal ‘Bio-Weapons’

Lawmakers in Florida have announced plans to officially designate mRNA Covid vaccines as “bio-weapons” that are hazardous to human health.

The proposed law seeks to BAN the administration of mRNA shots to anybody in the state.

The Brevard Republican Executive Committee has urged Gov. Ron DeSantis to sign the legislation, which will outlaw Covid-19 vaccines, as soon as possible.

The non-binding resolution was passed by a supermajority vote of committee membership Thursday. It now goes to DeSantis to sign.

http://Floridatoday.com reports: A draft version of the resolution reviewed by reporters closely mirrors one passed by the Lee County Republican Party in February, drawing national headlines.

“Strong and credible evidence has recently been revealed that Covid-19 and Covid-19 injections are biological and technological weapons,” the Brevard draft resolution says, citing claims that have been disproven and disputed by respected medical groups.

“An enormous number of humans have died or been permanently disabled” by the vaccine, it says. “Government agencies, media and tech companies, and other corporations, have committed enormous fraud by claiming Covid-19 injections are safe and effective.”

It calls on DeSantis to ban sale and distribution of the vaccine “and all related vaccines,” and for Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody to seize all remaining doses in the state for safety testing, “on behalf of the preservation of the human race,” it says.

It also calls for mandatory disclosures on any product in the state “using mRNA or gene altering or therapeutic technology.”

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/florida-to-officially-classify-mrna-covid-shots-as-illegal-bio-weapons/
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"Butbutbutbut he's literally WEF"  

*shakes head*
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 10:34:51 AM EST
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"Okay so they got a TON of things wrong, but ignore Candace Owens talking about what happened when she got her HPV jab because it's impossible that these things aren't as safe as clean drinking water because THAT is impossible duh haha"
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 10:35:33 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Laredo:



That the next vaccine will save us all from the perpetual new variant?

[three scoops of sarcasm]
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Originally Posted By Laredo:
Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

I have my theory….



That the next vaccine will save us all from the perpetual new variant?

[three scoops of sarcasm]



"We have always been at war with Eurasia The totally from nature coronavirus"
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 10:36:19 AM EST
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BTW:




This is what happens when the channel changes too fast, and people aren't called to answer for the clear failures.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 4:10:39 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/25/2023 4:49:41 PM EST
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ETA

Link Posted: 8/25/2023 5:17:23 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/25/2023 5:57:16 PM EST
[#26]
Originally Posted By Geralt55:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR4jEvuoF6I

BTW:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/144599/8_25_23Fauciswitnesses-2931433.jpg


This is what happens when the channel changes too fast, and people aren't called to answer for the clear failures.[/quote



Lots of people sick here with a lung and sinus bug.

Six people in the house have it.
So far I have dodged it as I have still been taking vitamin d,zinc,turmeric,xclear nose spray and take ivermectin when I feel funny.
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 9:26:15 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/25/2023 9:37:34 PM EST
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Tweet is gone
Link Posted: 8/25/2023 10:38:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

Tweet is gone

LOL, of course it is.

Guess what else is more common among the vaccinated.   Myocarditis
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 6:28:59 AM EST
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Originally Posted By S13:

LOL, of course it is.

Guess what else is more common among the vaccinated.   Myocarditis
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Originally Posted By S13:
Originally Posted By APPARITION:
Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

Tweet is gone

LOL, of course it is.

Guess what else is more common among the vaccinated.   Myocarditis



Of course it is, as the CDC has not stated this.

C'mon, this thread is good but when inaccurate information is posted somewhere and then deleted it is not evidence of a conspiracy.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 7:53:23 AM EST
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Of course it is, as the CDC has not stated this.

C'mon, this thread is good but when inaccurate information is posted somewhere and then deleted it is not evidence of a conspiracy.
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:
Originally Posted By S13:
Originally Posted By APPARITION:
Originally Posted By exponentialpi:

Tweet is gone

LOL, of course it is.

Guess what else is more common among the vaccinated.   Myocarditis



Of course it is, as the CDC has not stated this.

C'mon, this thread is good but when inaccurate information is posted somewhere and then deleted it is not evidence of a conspiracy.


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https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/whats-new/covid-19-variant.html#:~:text=BA.2.86%20may%20be%20more,have%20received%20COVID%2D19%20vaccines
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 8:06:48 AM EST
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Mea culpa.  
I searched the CDC site before my post above.  My search terms did not turn up this reference.

It is pointing to prior infection AND vaccination.  Not simply vaccination.   So an immune response of some sort???  Not solely a vaccination issue.

That is something to ponder, as prior infection with the flu(or other viruses) does not typically make one more likely to be infected by later mutations.
It would be informative to know WHY Covid is reacting this way and not get hung up on a poorly worded sentence.   IN MY OPINION.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 8:21:32 AM EST
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:


Mea culpa.  
I searched the CDC site before my post above.  My search terms did not turn up this reference.

It is pointing to prior infection AND vaccination.  Not simply vaccination.   So an immune response of some sort???  Not solely a vaccination issue.

That is something to ponder, as prior infection with the flu(or other viruses) does not typically make one more likely to be infected by later mutations.
It would be informative to know WHY Covid is reacting this way and not get hung up on a poorly worded sentence.   IN MY OPINION.
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The CDC article does say OR, not both.
So it would seem the real purebloods who have had neither the shot or the disease are the least at risk.

But it does seem strange that someone who's had the illness before would be more at risk, because antibodies. I mean, people get multiple colds in their lifetime,  because each one is a variant, but its never been alluded that it makes them at risk for more colds.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 8:32:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By rcav8r:

The CDC article does say OR, not both.
So it would seem the real purebloods who have had neither the shot or the disease are the least at risk.

But it does seem strange that someone who's had the illness before would be more at risk, because antibodies. I mean, people get multiple colds in their lifetime,  because each one is a variant, but its never been alluded that it makes them at risk for more colds.
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Originally Posted By rcav8r:

The CDC article does say OR, not both.
So it would seem the real purebloods who have had neither the shot or the disease are the least at risk.

But it does seem strange that someone who's had the illness before would be more at risk, because antibodies. I mean, people get multiple colds in their lifetime,  because each one is a variant, but its never been alluded that it makes them at risk for more colds.


Agreed, which is why I asked about an immune response.

That is my instant takeaway after being shown the CDC statement.

EDIT:
Immune Impacts: The large number of mutations in this variant raises concerns of greater escape from existing immunity from vaccines and previous infections compared with other recent variants. For example, one analysis of mutations suggests the difference may be as large as or greater than that between BA.2 and XBB.1.5, which circulated nearly a year apart. However, virus samples are not yet broadly available for more reliable laboratory testing of antibodies, and it is too soon to know the real-world impacts on immunity. Nearly all the U.S. population has antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 from vaccination, previous infection, or both, and it is likely that these antibodies will continue to provide some protection against severe disease from this variant. This is an area of ongoing scientific investigation.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 8:50:01 AM EST
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Whether they work or not depends on what your goals are.

People say they don't work, when yes, yes they do.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 9:53:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:


Mea culpa.  
I searched the CDC site before my post above.  My search terms did not turn up this reference.

It is pointing to prior infection AND vaccination.  Not simply vaccination.   So an immune response of some sort???  Not solely a vaccination issue.

That is something to ponder, as prior infection with the flu(or other viruses) does not typically make one more likely to be infected by later mutations.
It would be informative to know WHY Covid is reacting this way and not get hung up on a poorly worded sentence.   IN MY OPINION.
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Mea culpa.  
I searched the CDC site before my post above.  My search terms did not turn up this reference.

It is pointing to prior infection AND vaccination.  Not simply vaccination.   So an immune response of some sort???  Not solely a vaccination issue.

That is something to ponder, as prior infection with the flu(or other viruses) does not typically make one more likely to be infected by later mutations.
It would be informative to know WHY Covid is reacting this way and not get hung up on a poorly worded sentence.   IN MY OPINION.
Other articles state there are 36 mutations on the spike.  Those with natural infection have more robust N antibodies which doesn't mutate nearly as fast....

My theory is gaining some legs and it scares me shitless.  Someone may have figured out how to leverage the asymmetry.  
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:18:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By rcav8r:

The CDC article does say OR, not both.
So it would seem the real purebloods who have had neither the shot or the disease are the least at risk.

But it does seem strange that someone who's had the illness before would be more at risk, because antibodies. I mean, people get multiple colds in their lifetime,  because each one is a variant, but its never been alluded that it makes them at risk for more colds.
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:


Mea culpa.  
I searched the CDC site before my post above.  My search terms did not turn up this reference.

It is pointing to prior infection AND vaccination.  Not simply vaccination.   So an immune response of some sort???  Not solely a vaccination issue.

That is something to ponder, as prior infection with the flu(or other viruses) does not typically make one more likely to be infected by later mutations.
It would be informative to know WHY Covid is reacting this way and not get hung up on a poorly worded sentence.   IN MY OPINION.

The CDC article does say OR, not both.
So it would seem the real purebloods who have had neither the shot or the disease are the least at risk.

But it does seem strange that someone who's had the illness before would be more at risk, because antibodies. I mean, people get multiple colds in their lifetime,  because each one is a variant, but its never been alluded that it makes them at risk for more colds.


Say, in the history of vaccines, prior to the shit-shot, did we ever have a successful mass-fielded corona virus vaccine?
🤔
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:31:12 AM EST
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Say, in the history of vaccines, prior to the shit-shot, did we ever have a successful mass-fielded corona virus vaccine?
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No, and we still haven't had a successful one.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:37:08 AM EST
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No, and we still haven't had a successful one.
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Say, in the history of vaccines, prior to the shit-shot, did we ever have a successful mass-fielded corona virus vaccine?
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No, and we still haven't had a successful one.


I seem to recall that saying ANY of this ^ out loud resulted in a lot of screeching once upon a time
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 10:43:31 AM EST
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Say, in the history of vaccines, prior to the shit-shot, did we ever have a successful mass-fielded corona virus vaccine?
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Originally Posted By rcav8r:
Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:


Mea culpa.  
I searched the CDC site before my post above.  My search terms did not turn up this reference.

It is pointing to prior infection AND vaccination.  Not simply vaccination.   So an immune response of some sort???  Not solely a vaccination issue.

That is something to ponder, as prior infection with the flu(or other viruses) does not typically make one more likely to be infected by later mutations.
It would be informative to know WHY Covid is reacting this way and not get hung up on a poorly worded sentence.   IN MY OPINION.

The CDC article does say OR, not both.
So it would seem the real purebloods who have had neither the shot or the disease are the least at risk.

But it does seem strange that someone who's had the illness before would be more at risk, because antibodies. I mean, people get multiple colds in their lifetime,  because each one is a variant, but its never been alluded that it makes them at risk for more colds.


Say, in the history of vaccines, prior to the shit-shot, did we ever have a successful mass-fielded corona virus vaccine?
🤔


For clarity with the reference to "colds" it should be noted the "colds" are typically Rhinoviruses, not Covid type.
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 12:25:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:


Mea culpa.  
I searched the CDC site before my post above.  My search terms did not turn up this reference.

It is pointing to prior infection AND vaccination.  Not simply vaccination.   So an immune response of some sort???  Not solely a vaccination issue.

That is something to ponder, as prior infection with the flu(or other viruses) does not typically make one more likely to be infected by later mutations.
It would be informative to know WHY Covid is reacting this way and not get hung up on a poorly worded sentence.   IN MY OPINION.
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Okay so say we take this as the truth and the "science" is real this time.  If it seems that this is an immune response to both kung flu and the jab...which would you rather be:

1.  Individual 1 = I got the jab and all the boosters, plus had kung flu multiple times usually more than the "purebloods" based on the Cleveland clinic study
2.  Individual 2 = Caught kung flu once but possibly a few times depending on health and interaction levels with the general public

Who do you think has a better outcome over time if this is indeed a immune response to previous exposures?
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Post Vax/Long Covid Congress - The Silent Disaster, SAT 26th AUG 2023
Link Posted: 8/26/2023 8:28:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:


Okay so say we take this as the truth and the "science" is real this time.  If it seems that this is an immune response to both kung flu and the jab...which would you rather be:

1.  Individual 1 = I got the jab and all the boosters, plus had kung flu multiple times usually more than the "purebloods" based on the Cleveland clinic study
2.  Individual 2 = Caught kung flu once but possibly a few times depending on health and interaction levels with the general public

Who do you think has a better outcome over time if this is indeed a immune response to previous exposures?
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Originally Posted By Scoobysmak:
Originally Posted By UtahShotgunner:


Mea culpa.  
I searched the CDC site before my post above.  My search terms did not turn up this reference.

It is pointing to prior infection AND vaccination.  Not simply vaccination.   So an immune response of some sort???  Not solely a vaccination issue.

That is something to ponder, as prior infection with the flu(or other viruses) does not typically make one more likely to be infected by later mutations.
It would be informative to know WHY Covid is reacting this way and not get hung up on a poorly worded sentence.   IN MY OPINION.


Okay so say we take this as the truth and the "science" is real this time.  If it seems that this is an immune response to both kung flu and the jab...which would you rather be:

1.  Individual 1 = I got the jab and all the boosters, plus had kung flu multiple times usually more than the "purebloods" based on the Cleveland clinic study
2.  Individual 2 = Caught kung flu once but possibly a few times depending on health and interaction levels with the general public

Who do you think has a better outcome over time if this is indeed a immune response to previous exposures?


My suspicion is the CDC put that "previous infection" in there even though they know that cannot possibly be true in order to make it appear as though they weren't at fault for causing more Kung Flu by rolling out the botched HEGT shots. They know full well that *at worst*, that the new mutation would only have the same infection rate as the unvaccinated/uninfected because there would be no reason for a natural immune response to be otherwise. They also know full well that the HEGT shots harm the immune system in a permanent way, hence the reason why the Cleveland Clinic study, among others, showed the more shots you get, the more likely you are to get Kung Flu.
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Epoch times, but worth a read:

CDC misrepresented masks to fit narrative
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:
Other articles state there are 36 mutations on the spike.  Those with natural infection have more robust N antibodies which doesn't mutate nearly as fast....

My theory is gaining some legs and it scares me shitless.  Someone may have figured out how to leverage the asymmetry.  
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Whats your theory?
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Originally Posted By Ivan1:

Whats your theory?
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Originally Posted By exponentialpi:
Other articles state there are 36 mutations on the spike.  Those with natural infection have more robust N antibodies which doesn't mutate nearly as fast....

My theory is gaining some legs and it scares me shitless.  Someone may have figured out how to leverage the asymmetry.  

Whats your theory?

Antibody dependent enhancement driven by the attack on the spike.

Edit: The theory on asymmetry was proposed by others as a concept. My piece is someone figured it out already.
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Go through the replies in that tweet. In addition to 99% of the people telling him to fuck off as expected,  there are some links to studies showing how they dont work, and some graphs and pics too.
Link Posted: 8/27/2023 1:08:13 PM EST
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DAY 2 - SUNDAY - Post Vax/Long Covid Congress - 27th AUG, 2023


Day two of Covid Congress. Interesting aspect on gut biome .
* spike degradation techniques and mechanisms
** closing statements at the end of each video also providing useful insights
Link Posted: 8/28/2023 1:20:44 PM EST
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Legal Concerns Halt NIH $154 Million "False Information" Program

...Alta Charo, a bioethicist and University of Wisconsin Law School professor who has advised the NIH, told KFF Health News that the NIH “is caught up in a larger debate about who gets to decide what is truthful information these days.”
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