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Posted: 11/21/2012 11:16:16 AM EST
BASE OF THE 46TH REGIMENT, Syria (AP) — After a nearly two-month siege, Syrian rebels overwhelmed a large military base in the north of the country and made off with tanks, armored vehicles and truckloads of munitions that rebel leaders say will give them a boost in the fight against President Bashar Assad's army.

The rebel capture of the base of the Syrian army's 46th Regiment is a sharp blow to the government's efforts to roll back rebels gains and shows a rising level of organization among opposition forces.

More important than the base's fall, however, are the weapons the rebels found inside. At a rebel base where the much of the haul was taken after the weekend victory, rebel fighters unloaded half a dozen large trucks piled high with green boxes full of mortars, artillery shells, rockets and rifles taken from the base. Parked nearby were five tanks, two armored vehicles, two rocket launchers and two heavy-caliber artillery cannons.

Around 20 Syrian soldiers captured in the battle were put to work carrying munitions boxes, barefoot and stripped to the waist. Rebels refused to let reporters talk to them or see where they were being held.

"There has never been a battle before with this much booty," said Gen. Ahmad al-Faj of the rebels Joint Command, a grouping of rebel brigades that was involved in the siege. Speaking on Monday at the rebel base, set up in a former customs office at Syria's Bab al-Hawa border crossing with Turkey, he said the haul would be distributed among the brigades.


http://www.mail.com/news/world/1714668-ap-exclusive-syrian-rebels-seize-base-arms-trove.html#.23140-stage-mostviewed1-11
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:18:00 AM EST
Is this a good or a bad thing?

There are no "good guys" in this conflict....
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:18:02 AM EST

I bet those Syrian Army POWs are considered part of the booty. Or, their booty is considered booty.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:22:47 AM EST
Originally Posted By AccuracyThruVolume:
Is this a good or a bad thing?

There are no "good guys" in this conflict....


They're switching out a brutal autocracy for what will likely be a brutal theocracy.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:26:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By AccuracyThruVolume:
Is this a good or a bad thing?

There are no "good guys" in this conflict....

Good thing then, more mutual destruction.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:28:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: 11/21/2012 11:28:27 AM EST by dubBinSEA]
hope they fight each other forever
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:34:39 AM EST
What,if any,are the implications for Israel?
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:48:41 AM EST
I wonder if they got any of their chemical or biological weapons,
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:50:27 AM EST
Yay, bad guys fighting the bad guys. I wonder who wins?
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 11:50:46 AM EST

Originally Posted By DanaHillen:
What,if any,are the implications for Israel?

Increased instability. Attacks from Syria via Iran-backed proxies.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 12:12:24 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 12:49:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By brassburn:
Yay, bad guys fighting the bad guys. I wonder who wins?
The bad guys, of course.

Link Posted: 11/21/2012 12:53:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 12:55:21 PM EST
What will keep Jordan from becoming Syria, Libya and Egypt.

Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:17:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
What will keep Jordan from becoming Syria, Libya and Egypt.



The stability of a shared border with the KSA.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:20:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By brassburn:
Yay, bad guys fighting the bad guys. I wonder who wins?


Everybody but them?


This. Sounds like good news, let them duke it out.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:20:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
What will keep Jordan from becoming Syria, Libya and Egypt.



We have a rottweiler that lives next door
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:24:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By Blackout762:
Originally Posted By Forest:
Originally Posted By brassburn:
Yay, bad guys fighting the bad guys. I wonder who wins?


Everybody but them?


This. Sounds like good news, let them duke it out.


Only if they fight it out to the last man standing.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:26:38 PM EST
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:32:51 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/21/2012 1:36:29 PM EST by Red_Label]
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
What will keep Jordan from becoming Syria, Libya and Egypt.



Nothing.

All the pieces are coming together. And our illustrious CinC has been doling-out his blessings (and our money) for the complete take-over of the entire region by militant islamic regimes. Under previous US Administrations, we armed totalitarian individuals that we could mostly keep under our thumbs with money and promises of rewards for "playing nice" with the West. Under the new "democracy" breaking-out everywhere in the ME, we won't control JACK and those who've seized power are loyal only to their wackjob mullahs and warped, stone-age world views. We've always played with fire via our international policy –– with an egomaniacal dictator scattered here and there. In Obama's case... we're handing countless psychos and martyrs trainloads of gasoline and matches –– knowing DAMN well that they'd love to (and INTEND to) set the entire earth on fire. I love the concern of the left (and some here) about the danger that "zionists" and bible-thumpers pose to world peace. But arming masses of militant, suicidal islamics and helping/supporting their power grab isn't even worthy of acknowledgement. Of course... many of these beyond confused people are the same ones who celebrate aborting (KILLING) a human baby as a basic human right, while protesting the capital punishment of an evil, cold-blooded murderer in a candle-lit vigil. What an upside-down world we are living in.

Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:35:42 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/21/2012 1:36:23 PM EST by switchtanks]
Hopefully, the good guys get this stuff
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:38:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By switchtanks:
Hopefully, the good guys get this stuff


The "good guys" never get squat in the ME. It's always either the totalitarians or the militants.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:40:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By switchtanks:
Hopefully, the good guys get this stuff


Like who, the people guarding our diplomats?
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:41:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By Stegadeth:

Originally Posted By AccuracyThruVolume:
Is this a good or a bad thing?

There are no "good guys" in this conflict....

Good thing then, more mutual destruction.

This might be the only saving grace

The Syrian gov is going soon, and the rebels are taking over.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:43:35 PM EST
I'm willing to bet the high speed stuff finds it's way to the terrorists in other
countries.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:43:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By switchtanks:
Hopefully, the good guys get this stuff


Like who, the people guarding our diplomats?


Believe it or not, some of those rebels are simply trying to make sure their families aren't gunned down by government backed shitbirds.

Those. Are. The. Good. Guys.

Look it up.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:49:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/21/2012 1:53:36 PM EST by paris-dakar]
Originally Posted By switchtanks:
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By switchtanks:
Hopefully, the good guys get this stuff


Like who, the people guarding our diplomats?


Believe it or not, some of those rebels are simply trying to make sure their families aren't gunned down by government backed shitbirds.

Those. Are. The. Good. Guys.

Look it up.


Believe it or not, I'm old enough to have heard the same song sung many times before.

"Those people in the streets in Iran are just tired of the Shah."

"Those rebels in El Salvador are just tired of being exploited by the wealthy landowners."

"The Palestinians are just tired of living under Israeli occupation."

Look it up.

Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:54:25 PM EST
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By switchtanks:
Originally Posted By paris-dakar:
Originally Posted By switchtanks:
Hopefully, the good guys get this stuff


Like who, the people guarding our diplomats?


Believe it or not, some of those rebels are simply trying to make sure their families aren't gunned down by government backed shitbirds.

Those. Are. The. Good. Guys.

Look it up.


I'm old enough to have heard the same song sung many times before.

"Those people in the streets in Iran are just tired of the Shah."

"Those rebels in El Salvador are just tired of being exploited by the wealthy landowners."

"The Palestinians are just tired of living under Israeli occupation."

Look it up.



Potato: tomato, sir.

Things are changing down there, and I hope we have the collective noodle to do something about it.

Just my .02
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:54:35 PM EST

Originally Posted By Red_Label:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
What will keep Jordan from becoming Syria, Libya and Egypt.



Nothing.

All the pieces are coming together. And our illustrious CinC has been doling-out his blessings (and our money) for the complete take-over of the entire region by militant islamic regimes. Under previous US Administrations, we armed totalitarian individuals that we could mostly keep under our thumbs with money and promises of rewards for "playing nice" with the West. Under the new "democracy" breaking-out everywhere in the ME, we won't control JACK and those who've seized power are loyal only to their wackjob mullahs and warped, stone-age world views. We've always played with fire via our international policy –– with an egomaniacal dictator scattered here and there. In Obama's case... we're handing countless psychos and martyrs trainloads of gasoline and matches –– knowing DAMN well that they'd love to (and INTEND to) set the entire earth on fire. I love the concern of the left (and some here) about the danger that "zionists" and bible-thumpers pose to world peace. But arming masses of militant, suicidal islamics and helping/supporting their power grab isn't even worthy of acknowledgement. Of course... many of these beyond confused people are the same ones who celebrate aborting (KILLING) a human baby as a basic human right, while protesting the capital punishment of an evil, cold-blooded murderer in a candle-lit vigil. What an upside-down world we are living in.


Well said . . . .especially the part in red .
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 1:58:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By switchtanks:


Potato: tomato, sir.

Things are changing down there, and I hope we have the collective noodle to do something about it.

Just my .02


Let's do the zero-based interests analysis here.

What is the U.S. national security interest in Syria?
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 2:04:13 PM EST
[Last Edit: 11/21/2012 2:04:50 PM EST by switchtanks]
Originally Posted By Screechjet1:
Originally Posted By switchtanks:


Potato: tomato, sir.

Things are changing down there, and I hope we have the collective noodle to do something about it.

Just my .02


Let's do the zero-based interests analysis here.

What is the U.S. national security interest in Syria?


Regional based, US backed, stability...?

An erosion of political and military influence of an Iraninan backed ally?

Upperhand on a old enemy ( Russian Naval base, the sole base in the Mediterranean sea)

Thats what I can come up with in about a minute..
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 2:11:01 PM EST
How long until Assad just says F it and unloads all the WMD's he has on the whole
region?
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 2:40:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
What will keep Jordan from becoming Syria, Libya and Egypt.



The natives are getting restless but: the Jordanian armed forces are atypically decent for the Middle East and there is no way the Saudis will allow Abdullah to fall. It might take bloodletting on a scale of Black September but there will be an asskicking.

If it does happen,the Sauds are next and we are all gonna be in for an unholy shit storm.
Link Posted: 11/21/2012 3:08:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By outofbattery:
Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
What will keep Jordan from becoming Syria, Libya and Egypt.



The natives are getting restless but: the Jordanian armed forces are atypically decent for the Middle East and there is no way the Saudis will allow Abdullah to fall. It might take bloodletting on a scale of Black September but there will be an asskicking.

If it does happen,the Sauds are next and we are all gonna be in for an unholy shit storm.
We've already got The Panderer in Chief watching the candy store and doling out weapons and protection to terrorists.
Iran already has significant nuke-stuffs and a leadership to torch off a world conflagration.

How much worse can it get if it all goes to hell in the next year instead of the next 3 months?

Link Posted: 11/21/2012 3:45:48 PM EST
Wolverines Goats !!!!!
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