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Posted: 8/10/2011 5:23:42 AM EDT
How does swimming laps compare to other cardio exercises in terms of calorie burning, and general fitness? I have a heart rate monitor so I can track my workout effort, but don't want to take it into the pool.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:24:33 AM EDT
[#1]
Is the monitor not water resistant?  Most of them are...
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:33:29 AM EDT
[#2]
"Swimming laps" is not necessarily the best workout.  It depends on how hard you push, as with any exersize.  I see people swim laps and hardly breathe hard.  If, on the other hand, you want a low impact, serious cardio workout, swimming is fantastic for that.  You might have to learn about swimming intervals and about good warm ups, but swimming can get you into serious shape.  Former competitive swimmer here.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:34:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:37:29 AM EDT
[#4]
It's decent.  Time wise, other activities get you more benefit.  One of the bigger benefits is you use the upper and lower body, and it's zero impact.  



Just make sure you don't do it more than 45 minutes, lest you get a cortisol dump and you burn out all your muscles and you wind up looking like a Somali.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:38:31 AM EDT
[#5]
Probably the perfect medium for exercising in IMO.  Try to do Kung Fu underwater and see what I mean.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:38:40 AM EDT
[#6]
I swim and maybe I've never learned how to breathe correctly, but even at a leisurely pace, I'm working hard.

Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:52:22 AM EDT
[#7]
The thing about swimming is you learn to get more and more efficient as you get better at swimming and it becomes less of a workout.  Ive heard that swimming is about 1:4 for running, meaning that if you swim one mile its equivalent t o running 4.  based on time and calories burned, ive found that to be accurate.  my advice is to pick a distance you want to swim and just keep plodding along until you finish.  Dont be one of those guys that jumps in the pool and rips past me for 3 laps thinking he is some hero, then gets out expecting to work miracles... you have to put in a lot of boring time.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:58:41 AM EDT
[#8]
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"Swimming laps" is not necessarily the best workout.  It depends on how hard you push, as with any exersize.  I see people swim laps and hardly breathe hard.  If, on the other hand, you want a low impact, serious cardio workout, swimming is fantastic for that.  You might have to learn about swimming intervals and about good warm ups, but swimming can get you into serious shape.  Former competitive swimmer here.


I'l second that. former competitive swimmer here as well.
OP, hop in a pool and do 4 hard laps of freestyle; you'll feel like you just ran a mile.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 6:39:14 AM EDT
[#9]
I'll never have one, but always thought one of those endless pools looked cool to have if I won the lottery or something and needed to blow money.  Love the low impact and full body exercise it would give you.

Anyone ever use one?
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 6:51:25 AM EDT
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It's decent.  Time wise, other activities get you more benefit.  One of the bigger benefits is you use the upper and lower body, and it's zero impact.  

Just make sure you don't do it more than 45 minutes, lest you get a cortisol dump and you burn out all your muscles and you wind up looking like a Somali.


Lulz, I do exactly exactly 45 minutes
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 7:28:29 AM EDT
[#11]
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It's decent.  Time wise, other activities get you more benefit.  One of the bigger benefits is you use the upper and lower body, and it's zero impact.  

Just make sure you don't do it more than 45 minutes, lest you get a cortisol dump and you burn out all your muscles and you wind up looking like a Somali.


used to train/competitively swim for 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the afternoon 5 days a week for 6 years. Also ate 6-8 full meals a day and continued to lose weight. So yeah be careful how much you swim and how much you push yourself.

ETA - you need to balance weight training with swimming
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 7:30:53 AM EDT
[#12]
It really depends on who you are and what you're trained in.  I used to be able to sprint all day and run a 5K (3.2 mi) in about 24 mins.  But if you asked me to swim from one end of the pool to the other, I'd come up just about dying.

Because I suck so much, swimming is awesome exercise for me.  YMMV.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 7:32:22 AM EDT
[#13]
Or you could increase your nutritional intake and swim a lot.  That 45 minutes thing is arbitrary since everyone's different.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 7:58:56 AM EDT
[#14]
I'm not a great swimmer but I use swimming to keep my lungs in shape for MTB over the winter and to work the muscles the MTB ignores.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 8:04:15 AM EDT
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Or you could increase your nutritional intake and swim a lot.  That 45 minutes thing is arbitrary since everyone's different.



^^^  The truth.

My cousin missed making the Canadian Olympic team in 1984 by a fraction of a second.  He still swims an hour+ a day 5 days a week and is a bear of a man at 6'4" and about 230 lbs w/o any significant fat.



Link Posted: 8/10/2011 8:07:02 AM EDT
[#16]
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It's decent.  Time wise, other activities get you more benefit.  One of the bigger benefits is you use the upper and lower body, and it's zero impact.  

Just make sure you don't do it more than 45 minutes, lest you get a cortisol dump and you burn out all your muscles and you wind up looking like a Somali.


used to train/competitively swim for 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the afternoon 5 days a week for 6 years. Also ate 6-8 full meals a day and continued to lose weight. So yeah be careful how much you swim and how much you push yourself.

ETA - you need to balance weight training with swimming


I lift 6 days a week, and right now am swimming 3 days. I just wanted to know if that was the best use of my time.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 8:25:39 AM EDT
[#17]
You will get into good shape if you do it right. My brother was on the swim team all through high school and four years of college, graduated at 6'9" and 198 pounds despite the team nutritionist putting him on a 8500 calorie/day diet.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 9:45:46 AM EDT
[#18]
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It's decent.  Time wise, other activities get you more benefit.  One of the bigger benefits is you use the upper and lower body, and it's zero impact.  

Just make sure you don't do it more than 45 minutes, lest you get a cortisol dump and you burn out all your muscles and you wind up looking like a Somali.


used to train/competitively swim for 2 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the afternoon 5 days a week for 6 years. Also ate 6-8 full meals a day and continued to lose weight. So yeah be careful how much you swim and how much you push yourself.

ETA - you need to balance weight training with swimming


I lift 6 days a week, and right now am swimming 3 days. I just wanted to know if that was the best use of my time.


If done correctly (not just leisurely paddling), it will significantly build your endurance and muscle tone. Free-style stroke will be the easiest to master correctly and to use towards your benefit.  If you really want a massive full body workout, try and learn the timing of the butterfly. Butterfly will wear you out incredibly fast if done incorrectly, but once you get the timing its awesome. Breast stroke is great for resistance but I don't like it because its too slow despite having an awesome name. I use back stroke to cool down.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 9:57:29 AM EDT
[#19]
You could always add a treadmill

Link Posted: 8/10/2011 11:44:00 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/10/2011 12:07:44 PM EDT
[#21]
I like to swim about an hour 3 times a week
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 2:47:23 PM EDT
[#22]
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You will get into good shape if you do it right. My brother was on the swim team all through high school and four years of college, graduated at 6'9" and 198 pounds despite the team nutritionist putting him on a 8500 calorie/day diet.


Hmm, I'm on a 2100 calorie diet, working out 3x/day, and barely losing any weight
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 2:51:44 PM EDT
[#23]
I knew someone that struggled with weight and wouldn't budge from the belief that swimming 40 laps three times a week was enough.  Switched to jogging and lost 30 pounds.  Take that for whatever it's worth.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 2:56:24 PM EDT
[#24]
I swim and it bores the living piss outta me. I don't due it for cardio, but instead do it to keep my joints limber (having frozen shoulder is no fun).
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 2:56:27 PM EDT
[#25]
Hurt my knees running when I was in the Marines. Reluctant to start again.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 2:58:48 PM EDT
[#26]
Well, you want to lose fat, so you need fat burning workouts....long slow runs, rides or swims.   Along with the weights.

Actual target heart rate for long slow workouts would be below 60% I think ....of max.



Link Posted: 8/10/2011 3:00:56 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:Hmm, I'm on a 2100 calorie diet, working out 3x/day, and barely losing any weight


Have you tried fasted cardio?  Jogging or rowing or something before breakfast might work for you.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 3:04:28 PM EDT
[#28]
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Or you could increase your nutritional intake and swim a lot.  That 45 minutes thing is arbitrary since everyone's different.


If by "artbitrary" you mean "utter bullshit" then yeah, I agree.  If ALL you do is swim, then perhaps he'd have a point, but if swimming is just one facet of a fitness plan that includes weights and proper nutrition then his statement is nothing but hot air.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 3:05:04 PM EDT
[#29]
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You will get into good shape if you do it right. My brother was on the swim team all through high school and four years of college, graduated at 6'9" and 198 pounds despite the team nutritionist putting him on a 8500 calorie/day diet.


Hmm, I'm on a 2100 calorie diet, working out 3x/day, and barely losing any weight


Are you just weighing yourself on a scale or are you getting your body fat measured?
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 3:17:38 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
It's decent.  Time wise, other activities get you more benefit.  One of the bigger benefits is you use the upper and lower body, and it's zero impact.  

Just make sure you don't do it more than 45 minutes, lest you get a cortisol dump and you burn out all your muscles and you wind up looking like a Somali.


So, do you think Michael Phelps only trains 45 minutes a day?
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:05:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Mainly I was trolling Nexus on the 45 minute thing.  I think the whole cortisol thing is bullshit, for the record.  The reason that endurance athletes, marathoners, cyclists, long distance swimmers aren't huge like power lifters is that it's very counter-productive for them to be huge, not because a cortisol dump makes them waste away.  
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:37:32 PM EDT
[#32]
Swimming is the best way to burn calories without wrecking your joints, provided you don't push so hard you tear up your shoulders.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:53:05 PM EDT
[#33]
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You will get into good shape if you do it right. My brother was on the swim team all through high school and four years of college, graduated at 6'9" and 198 pounds despite the team nutritionist putting him on a 8500 calorie/day diet.


Hmm, I'm on a 2100 calorie diet, working out 3x/day, and barely losing any weight


My brother swam ~3000 yards twice a day six days a week, lifted weights three times a week, and jogged everyday. He is, without a question in my mind, a machine. Insane, but a machine. He's currently getting his rocks off in the USN EOD Prep Course of Instruction up in Great Lakes.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 5:55:29 PM EDT
[#34]
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"Swimming laps" is not necessarily the best workout.  It depends on how hard you push, as with any exersize.  I see people swim laps and hardly breathe hard.  If, on the other hand, you want a low impact, serious cardio workout, swimming is fantastic for that.  You might have to learn about swimming intervals and about good warm ups, but swimming can get you into serious shape.  Former competitive swimmer here.


This. Biking can yield more cals burned/minute but swimming is low risk for injury. They're all good. Just pick a sport or cardio activity that you actually like and stick with it. Doesn't matter on a grand scale and it's more important that it becomes a routine.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 6:10:27 PM EDT
[#35]
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You will get into good shape if you do it right. My brother was on the swim team all through high school and four years of college, graduated at 6'9" and 198 pounds despite the team nutritionist putting him on a 8500 calorie/day diet.


Hmm, I'm on a 2100 calorie diet, working out 3x/day, and barely losing any weight


It takes a while. Fat builds up over years. Count your calories, and actually measure/weigh everything at least until you can figure how many cals you are eating on a daily basis. You can figure for every 500 calorie deficit per day you should lose ~1 pound a week. I'd advise you to talk to a nutritionist and see how many calories a day you should be eating in order to lose 1-2 pounds a week.

ETA: or if you're cheap you can drop your diet 200 cals per day for 1 week (IE you are eating "2100" cals right now so next week drop to 1900/day and see how that goes) until you find the ~1 pound of weight loss per week sweet spot.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 6:16:04 PM EDT
[#36]
For those of you that get bored swimming laps try and underwater mp3 player.  It has made my time
in the pool worth while.  After I blew out my back I have been doing water therapy.  I also try to swim a
mile 4 times a week.  My diet sucks but I have lost 30 lbs and I am keeping it off if I stay in the pool.

After my surgery and rehab(fingers crossed) I can get back to being a little more aggressive but I will never
go back to running.  I will continue to swim and maybe try the Eliptical.  Good goggles make a world of difference as well

Good Luck and stay with it.
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 6:17:03 PM EDT
[#37]



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You will get into good shape if you do it right. My brother was on the swim team all through high school and four years of college, graduated at 6'9" and 198 pounds despite the team nutritionist putting him on a 8500 calorie/day diet.




Hmm, I'm on a 2100 calorie diet, working out 3x/day, and barely losing any weight




It takes a while. Fat builds up over years. Count your calories, and actually measure/weigh everything at least until you can figure how many cals you are eating on a daily basis. You can figure for every 500 calorie deficit per day you should lose ~1 pound a week. I'd advise you to talk to a nutritionist and see how many calories a day you should be eating in order to lose 1-2 pounds a week.



ETA: or if you're cheap you can drop your diet 200 cals per day for 1 week (IE you are eating "2100" cals right now so next week drop to 1900/day and see how that goes) until you find the ~1 pound of weight loss per week sweet spot.


There's formulas on the internet you can use to approximate your intake levels too.  Taking 10% off that is probably a more realistic number though.  Also, every few weeks, rework the numbers.  Loss levels of intake at 250 lbs might be maintenance intake at 210 lbs.  

 
Link Posted: 8/10/2011 7:02:19 PM EDT
[#38]
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[It takes a while. Fat builds up over years.


I've been working out hard for years.

Quoted:
Count your calories, and actually measure/weigh everything at least until you can figure how many cals you are eating on a daily basis. I'd advise you to talk to a nutritionist and see how many calories a day you should be eating in order to lose 1-2 pounds a week.


Yeah, I've done all that. I gut my RMR medically tested, so I know exactly how much I should be eating. Something is out of whack though, because I'm not losing anymore.
Link Posted: 8/11/2011 2:04:20 AM EDT
[#39]
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For those of you that get bored swimming laps try and underwater mp3 player.  It has made my time
in the pool worth while.  After I blew out my back I have been doing water therapy.  I also try to swim a
mile 4 times a week.  My diet sucks but I have lost 30 lbs and I am keeping it off if I stay in the pool.

After my surgery and rehab(fingers crossed) I can get back to being a little more aggressive but I will never
go back to running.  I will continue to swim and maybe try the Eliptical.  Good goggles make a world of difference as well

Good Luck and stay with it.


What brand of mp3 player do you use?
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