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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:06:05 AM EDT
[#1]
Nice!
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:08:36 AM EDT
[#2]
cautiously very optimistic. Wouldn't want to pull a CBS at this point.
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:09:24 AM EDT
[#3]
God I hope so, this would be the nail in his coffin if it can be proven to be true.
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:09:38 AM EDT
[#4]
Let's get this going!!
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:09:47 AM EDT
[#5]
Time will tell ( I hope they have enough of it )
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:09:53 AM EDT
[#6]
Will it matter?
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:10:31 AM EDT
[#7]
Absolutely. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:10:41 AM EDT
[#8]
I want to be excited, but "Where's the beef?"
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:11:01 AM EDT
[#9]
SWEET!!!!!!
Let it be true so that slimy f*cker goes down for the count!!!!!! |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:11:38 AM EDT
[#10]
wouldn't a dishonerable discharge affect his political future?
mike |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:12:28 AM EDT
[#11]
Man, I would love to see this be true, but it's a little a spare on specifics to get too excited about.
I'm not sure if an OTH is bad enough to cause much of a stir. IIRC the Other Than Honorable is the most negative subcategory of the general discharge category. The media would just spin it as just another general discharge, if every body gets one of those. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:14:46 AM EDT
[#12]
Which former Sec of the Navy? TR?
Why won't they name him? |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:15:21 AM EDT
[#13]
Yep, have to trust them to thoroughly check and confirm. Not expecting anything but damn what a bitchslap if it's turns out to be true. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:15:36 AM EDT
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No, a General(Less Than Honorable) Discharge is negative, no matter what category |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:17:51 AM EDT
[#15]
He is accused of having an 'Other Than Honorable Discharge'. There are also 'Bad Conduct Discharges' and 'Dishonorable Discharges'. The 'Other Than Honorable' is pretty bad, but it wouldn't necessarily imply a court martial. The Bad Conduct and Dishonorable (IIRC) can only be awarded at a court martial and would constitute a felony conviction which would disqualify Kerry. BTW, the 'Dishonorable' can only be awarded at the highest of the three levels of court martial. Civilians commonly use it to descibe all bad discharges, but it is very rare. Soldiers convicted of some type of crime usually get a Bad Conduct, or BCD(AKA, "The Big Chicken Dinner") |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:18:08 AM EDT
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It matters to people like me, but I've never even entertained the notion of voting for Kerry. My daddy will still vote for the CSMF. I literally can't imagine what would have to be revealed to get daddy to not vote, much less, to vote for Bush. Hardcore Democrats have bizarre motivations. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:18:25 AM EDT
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Once agian, if the tables were turned, Kerry would have already annouced this to the public and CBS or ABC would be forming a primetime special about this to be aired tonight or tomorrow.
sigh |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:20:32 AM EDT
[#18]
There are many categories og General, some are not negative, the media will try to lump it in with those to downplay this, if it turns out to be true. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:23:11 AM EDT
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They may not be negative in your opinion. To me, there's only one discharge......HONORABLE. 
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:25:35 AM EDT
[#20]
If this were true, would he even be eligible to run for president?
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:25:48 AM EDT
[#21]
Does it matter? Isn't it perfectly legal to sue for a change in discharge status after x years out of the service? Or did I misunderstand the process?
[sKerry]This is simply a legal proceeding that changed an error from 30 years ago. You see I was a decorated war veteran and there is no possible way that I could have gotten anything OTHER than an honorable discharge, I was just making sure that the official record matched what SHOULD have happened. Thank you for supporting me, even though I am a spineless cock sucking douche.[/sKerry] |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:26:08 AM EDT
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I've scanned all the posts and while I loathe Kerry, I see nothing but an unsubstantiated statement.
5sub |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:28:27 AM EDT
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People booted out under certain circumstances beyond their control can recieve 'General" discharges, for example recruits injured in training. The real truth teller is to check the RE code on their DD-214. That tells more of the story. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:29:37 AM EDT
[#24]
+1 |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:30:03 AM EDT
[#25]
Oh pleeeeeze, pretty PLEEEEEEZE!
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:30:05 AM EDT
[#26]
Dirtbag tag.
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:33:13 AM EDT
[#27]
The media will play this as a nothing because "lots of people got these at that time" because they were just protesting the war.
Lets face it. It's common knowledge kerry dishonored the military with his congressional speach and commited treason by meeting with the VC in paris durring the war. Voted against GW1 and also against the 87 Billion. The sheep don't care! That should be obvious by now. May the south rise again! |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:34:59 AM EDT
[#28]
I did some further checking and I was incorrect. Medical, FTA, etc; are not in the 'General' category.
A less than honorable discharge refers to a discharge that occurs under other than honorable conditions. This can be due to generally improper conduct, conviction of a crime either in a military court martial or a civilian court, or some other inappropriate action on the part of a soldier or someone associated with that soldier. The United States military subdivides less-than-honorable discharges into four categories, in increasing order of severity: general discharge; undesirable discharge; bad conduct discharge; and dishonorable discharge. Undesirable discharges or worse disqualify the soldier from receiving veterans' benefits under most circumstances, and any less-than-honorable discharge - even a general discharge - usually renders the discharged soldier ineligible for unemployment insurance benefits, because such a discharge is considered tantamount to having been "fired" from the most recently-held job. In addition, those given dishonorable discharges permanently forfeit certain citizenship rights, including the right to vote or legally possess a firearm in certain states. According to the government, there is no way for one to lose citizenship as such by any means, aside from voluntarily, and there is no federal law barring discharged soldiers from voting. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:43:04 AM EDT
[#29]
You're alright in my book. That's for the clarification. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:47:38 AM EDT
[#30]
Stay tuned...
 about friggin time!
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:52:34 AM EDT
[#31]
+100 |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:53:41 AM EDT
[#32]
Because the qualifications for the presidency are set in the Constitution,
Kerry's discharge status wouldn't disqualify him from the Presidency. Even a felony conviction wouldn't disqualify him, IMO. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:54:17 AM EDT
[#33]
Not if the Mainstream Media ignores it. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 10:54:59 AM EDT
[#34]
Please...please...let this be correct
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:03:00 AM EDT
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Is it true this is the kind of discharge you get for performing gay sex acts with your boat crew??
GunLvr |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:05:40 AM EDT
[#36]
You talkin' administrative discharge or penile discharge? |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:16:52 AM EDT
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I checked it out @ swift vet site, surfed around looking into it, and when I came back to the swifties the information in the post was pulled.........
either BS or truely developing. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:18:48 AM EDT
[#38]
Nope the MM is irrelevant, their ignorence of it only proves the assertions on the Internet. The MM digs their grave with every time they lie for Kerry. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:23:05 AM EDT
[#39]
Well six pages of that thread was just nuked...
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:29:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:30:02 AM EDT
[#41]
Content removed at the request of the author.
Stay tuned for updates. Will re-open the topic when we have further info. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:44:48 AM EDT
[#42]
Current link, standby..... |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:49:45 AM EDT
[#43]
Only if you're a Republican. Remember Clinton lied to a grand jury without consequence. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 11:55:32 AM EDT
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This will sound dumb but its either breaking or they found out its a no go. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:04:10 PM EDT
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If you read the thread before it poofed you'd know there were some big names involved... they might not have wanted speculation and details about who was talking to who all over the place. That guy Navy Chief shouldn't have posted anything at all until they had everything lined up. No mentio of it at DUh that I noticed, so maybe they shut it down in time.
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:08:11 PM EDT
[#46]
Man oh man.... BIG tag pending outcome. We'll see.
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:10:45 PM EDT
[#47]
So when does anyone but the choir get to hear about this?
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Posted: 10/29/2004 12:38:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2004 1:08:05 PM EDT
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Kerry's Constitutional Conundrum See this link for Kerry's ability to hold the office of POUS after meeting with NVA in Paris @ '71. |
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Posted: 10/29/2004 7:07:52 PM EDT
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Swiftvets Update
Take this for what it's worth. They are calling for a massive show of support Sunday on the steps of the Capital for a news confrence. Don't know what to make of it, the poster, Navy Chief, is reputable. Perhaps their is a big shit sandwich on the horizon. |
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