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Posted: 12/29/2015 4:47:13 PM EDT
Just stumbled across this suitcase MP5, apparently the trigger in the handle can fire the weapon (you can see the barrel on the left.) Kinda nifty.


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I am not hiding a dream gun in a fkn suitcase!
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Openly carrying a ... concealed-ish gun?

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LOL, how old are you OP?



That's been around fo eva









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That was a thing years ago. Designed for the Ingram.



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Wouldn't you much rather have a mp5k in a shoulder rig under a suit?
Link Posted: 12/29/2015 4:58:22 PM EDT
If you think that's neat, you should really check out Miami Vice. It's a cop show, set in the 80's.
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This is as close as I could get.



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I'm sure it'll be inaccurate as fuck in that shit-ass setup

Hit everything but what you're aiming at.
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Is that considered an AOW?
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Lol, holy shit.

That's probably the biggest pile of those things in one place short of the HK factory.
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How old are you kids?

Do your parents know you get on sites like this one? Damn, I'll be glad when school starts again next week and you all go back to your classes.

Hk made that damn thing about the same time they came up with the MP5. The idea was the shooter carries a briefcase full of ransom money in one hand and a machine gun aimed at kneecap level in the other. et al

It was also known as a "Fag Bag" (...their words, not mine)

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Originally Posted By pointman12:
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Not with the proper paper work.

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Ive always wondered how well the ejection of spent brass went?
Link Posted: 12/29/2015 5:09:45 PM EDT
1980 called and wants the Samsonite back.

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1980 called and wants the Samsonite back.

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It only fires when combined with teardrop style sunglasses, a bushy moustache, and a tan sport jacket with brown elbow pads.  

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Gives a new meaning to "taking care of business."
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Originally Posted By dpmmn:


IIRC, that was a Secret Service set up back in the 80's
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Uzi





 
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Those cases are stupid expensive when they come up for sale, like $3500+ on average I think
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I've shot one.  Pretty cool in a Hollywood kind of way.
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It is an NFA item. Pretty sure it's an AOW.
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Originally Posted By Kashtin:
That was a thing years ago. Designed for the Ingram.



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At the 1:34:45 mark in this 1985 vid.
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I used to own the machine pistol that went inside the case. Back in the good old days...
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Yes. Semi's at least.
 Not sure how a MG would rate; as a MG, or if an AOW definition would supercede MG,
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:

It is an NFA item. Pretty sure it's an AOW.
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
Originally Posted By pointman12:
Is that considered an AOW?

It is an NFA item. Pretty sure it's an AOW.


The suitcase is a registered AOW. The gun inside is also registered, but as an MG. If you were to build one large enough to contain a suppressed MP-5, it would be one of the only ways to get a 3 stamp gun.
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Did you know we landed on the moon?
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:


The suitcase is a registered AOW. The gun inside is also registered, but as an MG. If you were to build one large enough to contain a suppressed MP-5, it would be one of the only ways to get a 3 stamp gun.
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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
Originally Posted By pointman12:
Is that considered an AOW?

It is an NFA item. Pretty sure it's an AOW.


The suitcase is a registered AOW. The gun inside is also registered, but as an MG. If you were to build one large enough to contain a suppressed MP-5, it would be one of the only ways to get a 3 stamp gun.


Now that sounds like a challenge.
Link Posted: 12/29/2015 5:46:09 PM EDT
i got to handle one at the KCR machine gun shoot years ago.
it was without a doubt a neat concealment set up...
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Originally Posted By Danj:
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Where do you get those? South Africa?
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Originally Posted By 03RN:


Where do you get those? South Africa?
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Originally Posted By Danj:
Wouldn't you much rather have a mp5k in a shoulder rig under a suit?


Where do you get those? South Africa?

Welkum to Jo'burg, Chappie!
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Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
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For sure...old news.
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Funny, I carry an AR15 in my guitar case
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Suitcase?  
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Originally Posted By pale_pony:
How old are you kids?

Do your parents know you get on sites like this one? Damn, I'll be glad when school starts again next week and you all go back to your classes.

Hk made that damn thing about the same time they came up with the MP5. The idea was the shooter carries a briefcase full of ransom money in one hand and a machine gun aimed at kneecap level in the other. et al

It was also known as a "Fag Bag" (...their words, not mine)

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If I remember correctly "FAG" is an acronym for Fast Action Gun bag

I haven't seen one of those since Miami Vice was on television.
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Originally Posted By BladedRonin:
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I want to see an M-60 in an operational cello case AOW. That would be fun.
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Thought being a MG trumps AOW status.
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Originally Posted By RogueSpear2023:

Needs more shockwave brace, but very nice
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Needs more shockwave brace, but very nice


What it really needs is more tax stamp.  I'm working on it.



For the guy who asked, it's the 16" option of this bag.  

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Originally Posted By SiVisPacem:


The suitcase is a registered AOW. The gun inside is also registered, but as an MG. If you were to build one large enough to contain a suppressed MP-5, it would be one of the only ways to get a 3 stamp gun.
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Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
Originally Posted By pointman12:
Is that considered an AOW?

It is an NFA item. Pretty sure it's an AOW.


The suitcase is a registered AOW. The gun inside is also registered, but as an MG. If you were to build one large enough to contain a suppressed MP-5, it would be one of the only ways to get a 3 stamp gun.

Integrally suppressed MG's need 2 stamps?  Didn't know that.

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Nope. An MG isn't regulated as a short-barreled rifle. In the case of an operational briefcase (what that suitcase is called), the case itself is a registered firearm because installing the MG inside it conceals the MG while allowing it to still be fired. Remove the MG from the suitcase, the MG is still an MG, but the briefcase remains an AOW by virtue of the fact that it's only purpose is to conceal the MG and allow it to be fired.

Now, to show you just how tricky the NFA is, let's talk about North American Arms mini .22 revolvers and their wallet holsters. NAA mini revolvers, in and of themselves, are simply handguns and are not registered as AOW's. They are no different than a S&W 686 or Glock 19. When NAA produced leather wallet holsters for the guns, the guns could be fired while inside the wallet holster. BATFE determined that since the gun's shape was concealed (though you can still see both the trigger and cylinder), the revolver has to be registered as an AOW when they used together. (In fact, if you have a wallet holster in the same room as an NAA mini revolver, there better be at least one of the revolvers registered as an AOW, or it is considered constructive possession of intent to possess an unregistered AOW.) So, while the operational briefcase has to be registered in addition to the registration of the MG, the wallet holster isn't registered, but the revolver is. Now, I suppose someone could make the argument that it is because the briefcase has moving parts, whereas the wallet holster does not. But, silencers don't have moving parts and they're registered. Confused yet?
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Integrally suppressed MG's need 2 stamps?  Didn't know that.

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Originally Posted By pointman12:
Is that considered an AOW?

It is an NFA item. Pretty sure it's an AOW.


The suitcase is a registered AOW. The gun inside is also registered, but as an MG. If you were to build one large enough to contain a suppressed MP-5, it would be one of the only ways to get a 3 stamp gun.

Integrally suppressed MG's need 2 stamps?  Didn't know that.

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Yes, they do. One for the MG and one for the suppressor. An MP-5SD is a two stamp gun. Also, not all suppressed MP-5's are integrally suppressed. In fact, more are equipped with 3-lug barrels and have removable suppressors than are integrally suppressed.
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Never seen such a thing.
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