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Posted: 12/18/2016 3:29:12 PM EDT
I know diddly woo about power boats.

I was looking at a 13 foot Boston Whaler Sport and it seems to make sense to my addled brain.  I want something that is safe for my older kids to use, so not stupid powerful.  I don't care about water skiing.  I want to be able to fish off of it, not have something so unwieldy to tow and able to handle both fresh and salt water (not way off shore).

I guess most have a 40 horsepower Mercury.

Is this a more stupid idea than usual?  It seems most people I know who have boats seem to buy too much boat and it ends up getting rarely used.  Is a small powerboat too small?  Is there a sweet spot?
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:31:45 PM EDT
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depends what kind of water you are planning on using it.

You need to go hang out around the marina some.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:33:17 PM EDT
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My opinion of BW boats aside, 13 foot is an awfully small boat. You guys midgets?   Cause you'll fill up a 13 foot boat awful fast with 2 or 3 folks plus gear
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:35:28 PM EDT
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I know NOTHING about NH but growing up in the south my best friend and I took out his 18' or my 19' all the time.

Unless we were staying in the creeks we weren't allowed to take out his family's little boat because it's too easy to get in trouble in a boat that small around here. Ymmv
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:35:30 PM EDT
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I wouldn't float a 13' boat in a kiddie pool.

I thought a 12' was good. Then I bought a 16' boat. Thought it was good. Till I fished out of a 20' boat. Then I had to sell the 16' and buy a 20'. I haven't been able to afford the upgrade to a 22' yet.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:35:46 PM EDT
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Lakes here in NH, some limited salt water work out to local islands and along the coast of Maine.  Not interested in tackling big waves off shore.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:36:16 PM EDT
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If I were to ever buy another boat, (not likely though) it would only be a Boston Whaler.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:36:25 PM EDT
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I wouldn't float a 13' boat in a kiddie pool.

I thought a 12' was good. Then I bought a 16' boat. Thought it was good. Till I fished out of a 20' boat. Then I had to sell the 16' and buy a 20'. I haven't been able to afford the upgrade to a 22' yet.
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We're up to 24 now and feel small
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:37:58 PM EDT
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Great all-purpose rig however had no idea they came that short. I reckon a 40hp would be just fine with a 13ft.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:38:11 PM EDT
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Lakes here in NH, some limited salt water work out to local islands and along the coast of Maine.  Not interested in tackling big waves off shore.
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that's a good answer.  take a look at Carolina Skiff. I'd keep it over 16 feet.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:40:11 PM EDT
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You could maybe fit two hobbits on 13'. It's so small its only good for a dinghy.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:42:32 PM EDT
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I will check out Carolina Skiffs- thanks.

OK, so it sounds like 13 is not enough boat.

What is the .30-06 of the boat world?
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:43:46 PM EDT
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13' whaler's are tiny. I couldn't imagine, peronally,  getting any pleasure out of one.

I would think no less than a 19 footer.

Whalers are good boats and are expensive.

Sound Alternatives are out there.

Proline, post 94... no wood in hull

Grady's, Carolina sjiffy etc.

I personally have a proline 231 wa. Great boat.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:48:09 PM EDT
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OK, so it sounds like 13 is not enough boat.

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How many fishermen? Center console bay boats are taking over the market for a reason . Let's start there.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:48:35 PM EDT
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that's a good answer.  take a look at Carolina Skiff. I'd keep it over 16 feet.
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Yea this CS is a very versatile boat
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:49:54 PM EDT
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Do it
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:52:51 PM EDT
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2-3 fishermen.  Center Console sounds good.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 3:56:08 PM EDT
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Great boats but you'll regret one that small.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:00:52 PM EDT
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The cost of a Whaler will make you cry but you cry once and you are done (until you go for a bigger one)

The seaworthiness and capacity of a 13BW will beat out lots of other boats that have a bigger number.

If you can find a 15 whaler that is something to consider also. I believe about 20 13 footers have been built for every 15

I don't care what anyone says about other choices (and some that have been suggested are darn fine boats) but absolutely nothing holds value like a Whaler by a long shot
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:01:53 PM EDT
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2-3 fishermen.  Center Console sounds good.
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How many fishermen? Center console bay boats are taking over the market for a reason . Let's start there.


2-3 fishermen.  Center Console sounds good.


18-20 ' bay boat. Yeah , 16 foot might work, but buy something you can grow into. You'll regret buying the bare-ass minimum. Boats shrink in the water. Believe me.  

Another thing - Carolina Skiffs are great boats, but they will beat you to death in a chop. My Dad owned 2 and my best friend had a 19 foot dlx.  Personally I like a v hull.  Test ride in a chop before you buy.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:02:32 PM EDT
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Depends on water and budget

Canoe
15-16 ft aluminum boat
17 ft  BW Montauk
22-24 ft CC
35-40 ft convertible or express

Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:04:58 PM EDT
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Definitely look at something 16' or larger. Anything over 20' jumps up drastically in price. BW and CS are decent boats .
I would sooner have more than enough boat, than not enough.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:10:25 PM EDT
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Whalers are more expensive but hold their value for sure. And they're very well built. 13 foot is kinda small though. Are you fishing or cruising? Because if you're just cruising then they'll probably lose interest quickly. Center console is good for both though and easy to trailer.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:13:23 PM EDT
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Older hull with new power may be the way to go also
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:13:55 PM EDT
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Boston Whaler 13 footer is a great boat. Look them up on YouTube. They are great bay boats and small lake boats. They are the unsinkable legend. Had my Montauk for 18 years and sold it for $500 less that what I paid for it new. Go to the Whaler Forum to ask questions and review the history of the sport.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:17:19 PM EDT
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As always depends on use, but 17-21ft is a nice size.  Go flat bottom if you'll be cruising around shallow waters, V if not.  20ft can handle a decent amount of waves / weather you might find yourself in, can fit 2-6 people comfortably, and is small enough for easy trailering, less expensive than larger models, etc.  To me a nice medium.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:18:13 PM EDT
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OP specifies a whaler and arfcom directs him towards Carolina skiff.

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Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:21:52 PM EDT
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18' BW center console, expensive but just like our fav. toys buy once cry once. There is a reason that marine officers use BW almost to a department. This comes from almost 50 years of being in the business of boats of all kinds.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:23:10 PM EDT
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OP specifies a whaler and arfcom directs him towards Carolina skiff.

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  he also said, I know diddly woo about power boats
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:30:24 PM EDT
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Welcome to my adiction. I've been looking for one of those models  a while. I already have a '17 BW. . The motor will be fine, if I remember right it's the standard package boat.  I don't know your area so I cannot comment on suitability, but I would feel just fine in protected waters in good weather.  My 17' Boston Whaler has a 90 HP Honda and I routinely go 25 miles offshore.


Some shortcomings.

It's a 2 person boat, period. Storage is non-existant. If you want to mount things to or thru the hull keep in mind that being foam filled you cannot access the back of any mounting plates.  Also, check the foam for waterlogging.  Unsealed  screw holes leads to water intrusion into the foam spaces,. BIG And costly issue.  Depending on the amount of damage it could mean the boat is only good for the landfill, no mater how late the model is.

Only buy a Carolina Skiff if you want to be wet and beaten silly in any sort of chop.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 4:32:54 PM EDT
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Buy the best quailty boat you can afford as it will hold its resale value and be easier to sell if you want to trade up in a few years and BW is at the top of that list.

Hang as much HP on the transom as the Mfg will allow. Fishermen carry all sorts of gear which load down the boat but you can still go easy on the engine and zoom right along. Also, with max OB, should you need to really haul ass and out run a storm you will be able to.

Finally, best to have a little too much length, than not enough.

Use to be the best BW forum.

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:07:56 PM EDT
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Depends on water and budget

Canoe
15-16 ft aluminum boat
17 ft  BW Montauk
22-24 ft CC
35-40 ft convertible or express
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What is the .30-06 of the boat world?
Depends on water and budget

Canoe
15-16 ft aluminum boat
17 ft  BW Montauk
22-24 ft CC
35-40 ft convertible or express


Nailed it.  I started with a 25 express. It shrunk so much when I put it in the water, I had to go out and get a 39 express.

You could mount a 13 whaler on the platform as a dinghy.
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Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:14:17 PM EDT
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OP specifies a whaler and arfcom directs him towards Carolina skiff.

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Or GD saves him $$ and certain waste of $$ for intended use
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:19:45 PM EDT
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Like folks are saying, 13 ft is small.  Aside from the cramped quarters, it will be a rough ride on plane if there is any chop.  A small boat slams down in between the waves, whereas a longer boat spans across the waves (e.g. the bow is already sitting on the next one before the stern left the last one - so the boat doesn't drop down between the waves and slam).
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:21:07 PM EDT
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You know the two best days of boat ownership, right?

I have a 1978 21' Outrage.  They're great boats.  I'm with most other folks though, the 13' is dingy kind of small.  They have a 17' model that an excellent all around boat that any medium size car or light truck can tow.  Fitted with 70-100 hp, wouldn't think you could get into much trouble with it.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:26:29 PM EDT
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I will check out Carolina Skiffs- thanks.

OK, so it sounds like 13 is not enough boat.

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Buy once, cry once?

Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:29:38 PM EDT
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I grew up with a 13'4" with a 35.

Go 17' with 70

I was in jigh school with the 13. Sking and fishing.

Father in law had the 17' Lot more comfortable for grown people to get around in. If you get above that, go big. It's already a heavy pain in the ass.

And me and a buddy ran into each other skidding sideways. Boston Whaler. Takes a beating, cracks a little gel coat and laughs at your 17 year old drunk ass. 1978
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:38:00 PM EDT
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I have owned two 13's. They are great boats for kids. They are very stable, fast enough to be fun and hold great resale value. Fwiw, I regularly fished for big game up to 30 miles off shore.

They will rattle your kidneys when it gets rough.i attribute some of my back pain to those great little boats.

Overall they are excellent first boats for kids.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:39:53 PM EDT
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I have a 2001 13 sport. (40 2 stroke)

Yes it's small, probably way too small for your needs. You'd be fine going fishing solo, but it gets clogged quick. It's fine for two if just cruising around.

It will pull a kid on skis, but an adult will depend on what they are trying to do. Adult slolom, no chance.

They are fast and durable, you just have to acknowledge the limits of a 13 foot boat. Unless you have to carry it by hand, it's much better than aluminum.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:43:03 PM EDT
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Depends on your tolerance for tripping over shit.  Mine's pretty low.    A 20' Mako CC was a me and one other person fishing boat.  Helped if I loved them.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 5:45:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/18/2016 6:45:38 PM EDT
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2-3 people fishing, anything less than 16' is too cramped.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 7:10:15 PM EDT
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Shit, we go out in a 28 center console with 4 dudes and its one too many.
Link Posted: 12/18/2016 9:04:16 PM EDT
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I have owned two 13's. They are great boats for kids. They are very stable, fast enough to be fun and hold great resale value. Fwiw, I regularly fished for big game up to 30 miles off shore.

They will rattle your kidneys when it gets rough.i attribute some of my back pain to those great little boats.

Overall they are excellent first boats for kids.
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Preach!!!

They will take more abuse than you can.  This creates a nice buffer that helps longevity (not yours, the boats). Rough water? Bring a soft seat cushion, and make sure your anchor is secure.

If you can live with the size, they are easy to live with. Easy to store, trailer, and a relatively small hole in the water where you will be throwing money.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:19:10 AM EDT
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Thanks all- you have given me a lot to think about.  

I should take the kids to a boat show just to get them to understand the costs involved.
Link Posted: 12/19/2016 9:31:40 AM EDT
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Thanks all- you have given me a lot to think about.  

I should take the kids to a boat show just to get them to understand the costs involved.
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I was going to post this in a few weeks there are a couple great shows
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