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Posted: 12/15/2010 12:10:07 AM EST
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Search for the nearest military installation and contact their SPs.
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Depends on the branch.
If Army - Army CID If Navy/Marines - NCIS If AF - I assume the AFOSI |
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Who does one contact ? Usually, eBay. Or Craigslist |
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Quoted: Who does one contact ? We don't even know what you're talking about. Are you talking about current, issued gear? Milsurp? Antiques? What? |
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Who does one contact ? Usually, eBay. Actually.....not that funny. Such places are usually the first one's an investigator looks to. See: FBI Art Theft Unit on the Worden sword recovery. __________________________________________________________________ ("What do you mean, you didn't mean to kill him? You put your sword right through him!"––Swamp Castle King, (w,stte), "Monty Python and the Holy Grail") |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Who does one contact ? Usually, eBay. Actually.....not that funny. Such places are usually the first one's an investigator looks to. See: FBI Art Theft Unit on the Worden sword recovery. __________________________________________________________________ ("What do you mean, you didn't mean to kill him? You put your sword right through him!"––Swamp Castle King, (w,stte), "Monty Python and the Holy Grail") There are reverse scammers as well. I was contacted about an item I bought on Ebay by a Warrant Officer so and so and said it was stolen and I needed to return it to said address. I told him I was a police officer and gave him my department's ORI (national LE communications system number) and told him to send an administrative message with the case involved. Surprisingly I never heard back. |
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There are reverse scammers as well. I was contacted about an item I bought on Ebay by a Warrant Officer so and so and said it was stolen and I needed to return it to said address. I told him I was a police officer and gave him my department's ORI (national LE communications system number) and told him to send an administrative message with the case involved. Surprisingly I never heard back. I suppose "the enemy" learns.......though looking at some of the cases in antiquity theft, I have to wonder what those people are using for brains in the personalty department. They might be rather brilliant as thieves but their level of delusion can be fascinating. Pity you didn't hear back from him; it would have been nice to see all the charges that above might involve especially if he sent it through snail mail. Back to the OP, it helps if we know what kind of items are being talked about here. Essentially, I'd say to notify the nearest base's security unit and let them figure out what is to be done about it. Alternately, call your State Police or local police. ________________________________________________________ ("I'm rich!"––Sixpack having found the purser's safe on a sunken Soviet Navy vessel, (w,stte), "Leviathan") |
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Thanks to all that replied....Said items are mags & pouches, canteens, helmet, vest, etc. Not many items worth a whole lot, but alot of items.
Might have been stolen approx. 20 yrs ago from the Marines. Would NCIS still be interested? |
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How can you tell they were stolen? You can pick that stuff up at surplus stores.
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Twenty years ago? I'd say that they stopped worrying about any stolen 20 year old TA 50 about 19 years 11 months and 14 days ago.
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Thanks to all that replied....Said items are mags & pouches, canteens, helmet, vest, etc. Not many items worth a whole lot, but alot of items. Might have been stolen approx. 20 yrs ago from the Marines. Would NCIS still be interested? You could try,but I'll bet they wont care at this point.How would they even prove that stuff is stolen?Like has been said,you can buy it surplus in a lot of places. Now a rifle,claymore,or other interesting toys I bet would still interest them................ |
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags".
So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? |
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There's so many Aimpoints and KAC rails in white army issue boexes on eBay that I have to assume are stolen.
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags". So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? While it pisses me off to see the "parade" of CL-9 and '2 stuff going around these days that I "think" is stolen, hell...stuff out of 20yr old sea bags...not on anyone's radar that I can see getting too excited about it. |
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Thanks to all that replied....Said items are mags & pouches, canteens, helmet, vest, etc. Not many items worth a whole lot, but alot of items. Might have been stolen approx. 20 yrs ago from the Marines. Would NCIS still be interested? I'm sure some 20 year old junk is well worth tying up their time and resources for. |
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Quoted: Thanks to all that replied....Said items are mags & pouches, canteens, helmet, vest, etc. Not many items worth a whole lot, but alot of items. Might have been stolen approx. 20 yrs ago from the Marines. Would NCIS still be interested? I have tons of that stuff. It builds up after a while. I'd sell it if I thought anyone wanted it, since the Navy sure as hell doesn't want it back. Instead I give most of it to my nephews to play with. Anyone want to buy a shelter-half? |
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Forget about it. For one, there's no significant $$$ value to those items.
Two, without consulting my law books, I'm going to guess that the statute of limitations on Theft of Government Property has expired. Guessing that the offender is now a civilian, they certainly aren't going to put them back on active duty for a court martial. Which means that the FBI has jurisdiction over a civilian. And I ASSURE you the FBI isn't interested in that BS case. Let the grudge go. |
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Nobody is going to care about 20 year old gear. The statute of limitations has most likely run out on the theft and none of the gear is likely to even still be in use.
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags". So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? Forget about it. It was 20 years ago. Uncle Sam does not give a rats ass. Further more, talk to any former military member and each and every one of them will have piles of shit that was "stolen". Most of it is stuff that was simply never asked to be returned. Why is this a big deal to you? Are you trying to bust someone who you don't like? |
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Anyone want to buy a shelter-half? How much? J/K I have a few kicking around. One even has buttons instead of snaps and was last issued in 2006 (I wonder how old that damn thing is). |
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags". So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? How does that fact that it is in a sea bag indicate that it is a product of theft? I have quite a bit of legally owned property stowed in sea/duffel bags. |
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Thanks to all that replied....Said items are mags & pouches, canteens, helmet, vest, etc. Not many items worth a whole lot, but alot of items. Might have been stolen approx. 20 yrs ago from the Marines. Would NCIS still be interested? They discontinued the "Junior G-man" badge program, if you were hoping to earn one. |
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so how does pulling some old 782 gear out of a 'sea bag' make it stolen?
also, lots of this stuff is out in the surplus market that's legitimately owned. Hell, when I was in the Corps, I used to have lots of my own privately owned gear because there were always retareded cases where you'd come out of the field and the powers that be would want an inspection the next day. Fuck staying up all night cleaning shit. BTW...you could buy most issued gear right on base (and usually right off any base in all of the army navy surplus stores) Now, if you found a M16A2, coms gear, fragmentation grenades or something of the like, I'm sure you should probably notify someone. |
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags". So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? Forget about it. It was 20 years ago. Uncle Sam does not give a rats ass. Further more, talk to any former military member and each and every one of them will have piles of shit that was "stolen". Most of it is stuff that was simply never asked to be returned. Why is this a big deal to you? Are you trying to bust someone who you don't like? I was talking about this topic with a retired SF Master Sergeant this week. His opinion was that if you cleared all your hand receipts, all that stuff in your garage must not be stolen. |
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags". So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? Forget about it. It was 20 years ago. Uncle Sam does not give a rats ass. Further more, talk to any former military member and each and every one of them will have piles of shit that was "stolen". Most of it is stuff that was simply never asked to be returned. Why is this a big deal to you? Are you trying to bust someone who you don't like? This. If you had first hand knowledge of the theft occurring and didn't report it THEN, WTF are you so concerned about it NOW?? Don't forget that Accessory after the fact and Conspirancy to Commit are still crimes that YOU could be charged with. Best of luck OP, but let dead dogs lie. -SS |
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First off, how do you really know it was stolen?
When I retired, I had tons of crap that had accumulated over 20 years. Stuff I had purchased, stuff that did not need to be turned in, stuff that I tried to turn in but CIF said they didn't need it. |
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags". So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? Forget about it. It was 20 years ago. Uncle Sam does not give a rats ass. Further more, talk to any former military member and each and every one of them will have piles of shit that was "stolen". Most of it is stuff that was simply never asked to be returned. Why is this a big deal to you? Are you trying to bust someone who you don't like? I was talking about this topic with a retired SF Master Sergeant this week. His opinion was that if you cleared all your hand receipts, all that stuff in your garage must not be stolen. this |
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Quoted: Quoted: Anyone want to buy a shelter-half? J/K I have a few kicking around. One even has buttons instead of snaps and was last issued in 2006 (I wonder how old that damn thing is). They expected us to take those to Iraq with us in 04, along with a ton of other ridiculous 782 gear that took up half our weight allowance. I sent it home and let them paycheck me if they wanted to. |
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so how does pulling some old 782 gear out of a 'sea bag' make it stolen? also, lots of this stuff is out in the surplus market that's legitimately owned. Hell, when I was in the Corps, I used to have lots of my own privately owned gear because there were always retareded cases where you'd come out of the field and the powers that be would want an inspection the next day. Fuck staying up all night cleaning shit. BTW...you could buy most issued gear right on base (and usually right off any base in all of the army navy surplus stores) Now, if you found a M16A2, coms gear, fragmentation grenades or something of the like, I'm sure you should probably notify someone. Notify me. I'll bring the beer and a few steaks. |
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Quoted: I was talking about this topic with a retired SF Master Sergeant this week. His opinion was that if you cleared all your hand receipts, all that stuff in your garage must not be stolen. I like that. |
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags". So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? Forget about it. It was 20 years ago. Uncle Sam does not give a rats ass. Further more, talk to any former military member and each and every one of them will have piles of shit that was "stolen". Most of it is stuff that was simply never asked to be returned. Why is this a big deal to you? Are you trying to bust someone who you don't like? I was talking about this topic with a retired SF Master Sergeant this week. His opinion was that if you cleared all your hand receipts, all that stuff in your garage must not be stolen. Yup, it is not stolen gear, it is what I like to call F.W.A. gear. F.W.A. stands for Fraud, waste, and abuse. If the .gov doesn't want it back, it is waste on their end. I had a metric shit ton of it, but I managed to sell most of it and keep only the good stuff. I cleared all my hand receipts too. |
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Thanks to all that replied....Said items are mags & pouches, canteens, helmet, vest, etc. Not many items worth a whole lot, but alot of items. Might have been stolen approx. 20 yrs ago from the Marines. Would NCIS still be interested? Holy shit! This is some serious stuff! Forget CID, call the President directly! |
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Hold up - I have worked with warrant officers for 22 yrs and find them very smart, very honest to a fault. You probably had someone CLAIMING to be a WO, but real Warrants have better things to do.
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Who does one contact ? Usually, eBay. Actually.....not that funny. Such places are usually the first one's an investigator looks to. See: FBI Art Theft Unit on the Worden sword recovery. __________________________________________________________________ ("What do you mean, you didn't mean to kill him? You put your sword right through him!"––Swamp Castle King, (w,stte), "Monty Python and the Holy Grail") There are reverse scammers as well. I was contacted about an item I bought on Ebay by a Warrant Officer so and so and said it was stolen and I needed to return it to said address. I told him I was a police officer and gave him my department's ORI (national LE communications system number) and told him to send an administrative message with the case involved. Surprisingly I never heard back. |
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I know the items were stolen,,,,,I watched as the items were pulled out of several "sea bags". So should I just forget about it or should I make a phone call? You "know" it's stolen because it was in some sea bags? Are you Columbo or something? |
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Thanks to all that replied....Said items are mags & pouches, canteens, helmet, vest, etc. Not many items worth a whole lot, but alot of items. Might have been stolen approx. 20 yrs ago from the Marines. Would NCIS still be interested? Sir, I can't believe this is really your story. surely something more substantial piqued your interest. Just to give you perspective, CID won't trip over mouse turds when they can't even find elephant shit. |
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