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Posted: 12/16/2016 6:45:32 AM EST
I can pick up a Steyr M95 rifle in great condition for $160. Should I pass or pick it up for that price? Is ammo a bitch finding it?
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 6:55:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2016 7:11:58 AM EST by Makarov]
Personally, I find the M95 series of rifles to be more of an interesting curiosity than a shooter. My 95/34 is...well....unpleasant not fun to shoot and "patterns" more than "groups".

I bought mine in the late 90s for $50 from Century about the same price as a Soviet Mosin-Nagant. SMLE were going for $50-$75 at the time. So, if you want one, $160 is probably a good "today" price.

Interesting guns, Interesting history, mediocre shooter <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_thinking.gif border=0 align=middle>
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 7:09:40 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2016 7:10:19 AM EST by Panta_Rei]
I bought one for 80 or $90 when I had my C&R FFL (10+yrs ago). It's a unique milsurp and I picked up exactly one box of ammo that I have never shot. I figure, it is a conversation piece, my Euro friends get a real kick out of it, and if SHTF, it's more than a prop.....but I never intended to shoot it much.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 7:11:04 AM EST
They are fun guns to shoot in my opinion. The straight pull bolt is neat as well. If you decide to pass, please pm me the contact info
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 9:40:16 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2016 10:11:46 AM EST by JDennis]
I picked mine up 5 or so years ago for 90.00. I bought it for a conversation piece. Although it is in relatively good shape the stock has 4 serial numbers on it with 3 crossed out and various wood plugs from old sling hardware. I assume it has seen a lot of use in its time so for 90 bucks figured why not. Also got a couple boxes of nazi stamped ammo and 5 ammo clips 3 of which are nazi stamped as well. I purchased a box of ppu ammo for it to function test it. Shot 2 rounds and it may not be that accurate but the kick is a rush.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 9:51:59 AM EST
If it has an "S" on the chamber, it is 8*56, if not it is still in the original 8*50. You can still find 8*56 as a large shipment came in 20 years ago and scraps are still out there. You will not find 8*50.  The good news is that there is a 99% chance it's 8*56.

The above is general info. I know that the Hungarians used a letter other than "S" (H?), and some rifles were converted to 8*57(do not shoot).
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:03:15 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2016 10:04:06 AM EST by BM1455]
I have a WW-I bring back that the vet gave us when we were kids. Still 8x50 and has the Austrian unit marks on the but plate. The guy painted "World War, 1914-1919" on the side of the stock so he could use it in veterans parades before there ever was a WW-II. I have made some ammo for it using new Pivi 8x56 cases, reforming and trimming them and 220gr RN Woodleigh bullets. I have not really tried it enough to figure out a decent load though.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:08:26 AM EST
I have a rifle and carbine version. They are neat unique guns. Ammo is not really an issue SGAmmo has 326 boxes in stock, and Aim is sold out now, but usually has it.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:08:50 AM EST
I have one in amazing shape. It is not on of my favorite guns to shoot. but it is fun to own. PPU makes ammo for $20 a box, and a box is really the most you would shoot during a range session with it anyway. And of course there are dies for reloading it too.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:25:33 AM EST
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I have a WW-I bring back that the vet gave us when we were kids. Still 8x50 and has the Austrian unit marks on the but plate. The guy painted "World War, 1914-1919" on the side of the stock so he could use it in veterans parades before there ever was a WW-II. I have made some ammo for it using new Pivi 8x56 cases, reforming and trimming them and 220gr RN Woodleigh bullets. I have not really tried it enough to figure out a decent load though.
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That's cool. Would love to see some pics if possible
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:27:59 AM EST
I know that I really want one. It is a really interesting design. I just can't find one when I actually have money.

I'd fo at that price OP. Get a couple boxes of ammo and some enbloc clips for it and go shoot.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:28:42 AM EST
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That's cool. Would love to see some pics if possible <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Originally Posted By BM1455:
I have a WW-I bring back that the vet gave us when we were kids. Still 8x50 and has the Austrian unit marks on the but plate. The guy painted "World War, 1914-1919" on the side of the stock so he could use it in veterans parades before there ever was a WW-II. I have made some ammo for it using new Pivi 8x56 cases, reforming and trimming them and 220gr RN Woodleigh bullets. I have not really tried it enough to figure out a decent load though.


That's cool. Would love to see some pics if possible <img src=http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Seconded.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:32:29 AM EST
I should have bought one when they were under $100.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:38:40 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 10:40:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2016 10:42:36 AM EST by DriftPunch]
A story on how I got my full length.

15 years or so ago, I was in a basic gun store that mostly had handguns and hunting rifles.  I saw a M95, which was out of place there. I asked to see it and it was still in 8*50, but under my normal condition standards. the price was crazy at $295.

I turned the tag over and it said, "With 2,000 rounds". SOLD!  I was aware of how rare it is.  It was all 1930s Bulgarian, which was probably the last mass production of this caliber.

The minimum sighting is 300 meters, with this ammo, it hits 18 inches high at 100 yards. It's a 244 grain round nose cupro-nickel bullet moving at 2000 fps, so it's got quite an arc.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 11:02:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 11:07:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2016 11:08:23 AM EST by Xener4teener]
If you have a chance at an M95 for a good price- do it.

I picked up a Steyr M95 carbine around 1988, and it is one of my favorites. With new production 8x56R finally available, there's no reason not to. The straight pull action is very satisfying to work, and the cartridge (to me) feels like a high-velocity .45-70. Make sure you lay in a few of the enbloc clips- like a Garand, you'll need them.


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Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:12:31 PM EST
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Were those original or reloads? I've also been told that 8x50 is the same as some British .315 cartridges. Do you know if that is true?
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Original, I sent some to a Bulgarian immigrant who was also a collector of Bulgarian militaria, as well as a gunboards tester. (Kind of like old painless).

I don't know about your other question. I do know that India prohibited civilian ownership of .303, so many sporting guns in India were Lee Enfield actions converted to 8*50. Not sure if there were further mods.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:14:25 PM EST
I bought an M95 carbine years ago when I worked at TGI. The 56R ammo was scarce, but Wolf made a run of ammo for a bit. Came in 500rd case. Bought 2 cases. Found some Nazi marked stripper clips for $5 each on the surplus rifle forum a few years ago.

I like shooting it every now and again. But you have to be careful of the sling loop on the left side. It will bite you if you aren't careful.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:49:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/16/2016 12:51:19 PM EST by fury413rb]
I have one and I like to shoot it. I broke the ejector which I replaced cheaply from numrich.

I have some neat nazi stamped mannlicher clips and ammo in the original boxes. I havent shot any of that but I do shoot prvi. I picked up 6 boxes of prvi when I bought the gun at a fun show.

I paid $120 for the rifle with the nazi ammo ( I think 5 boxes IIRC), $30 for a bayonet, and $60 for the prvi. Its a mix of either FMJ and Soft Point ammo. I just bought all they had at one of the weird ammo tables.









Link Posted: 12/16/2016 12:56:08 PM EST
I think they are fun to shoot. I have a couple, including a duffle cut WW1 bring back in 8x50. I remember when the Nazi ammo was available from AIM for $1.85 a box if you were buying bulk.

I also have full clip of 8x50 that was made in Italy to be used in captured A-H rifles.

The coolest variant IMO is the Swiss M93 carbine---pretty much a M95, but made in Switzerland in 7.5x55 (GP90). They are not common, and not very accurate, which is why the Swiss gave up on them pretty quick.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 1:42:15 PM EST
while the ejector broke in mine - see pics above - it is somewhat common to break the extractor.

If you try to load the rifle (rimmed cartridge) one cartridge at a time into the chamber you can/will break the extractor when it snaps over the rim

they really need the clips to function correctly or you load it carefully with a single cartridge by sliding the rim under the extractor.

Hope that makes sense
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 3:34:31 PM EST
I grabbed it for $165, will post pics!
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 3:41:36 PM EST
I went to the Indy 1500 gun show once years ago after we had imported 2000 of the carbines. Went with my brother that lives there. Saw some of imported M95's on a dealers table. Was looking at one of them and the dealer smirked and said, "If you can figure out how to pull the bolt out, I'll give you one of those rifles"
I smiled as I pulled the bolt back, pushed the trigger forward and pulled the bolt out.

The dealer looked at me with his mouth hanging open not knowing what to say. I just looked at him and said I was an out of stater and couldn't get it transfered on a 4473 anyway. He physically deflated a little. It was funny as hell. The wife had a great laugh about it. My brother was saying we would take it instead.
Link Posted: 12/16/2016 5:16:01 PM EST
I have all the ingredients for a rifle but I haven't been able to find a rifle (not carbine) barrel anywhere.
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