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Posted: 12/14/2013 6:47:13 PM EST
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:47:54 PM EST
sounds like sexism
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:49:31 PM EST
Did he give up all claims and visitation rights? If so, and it's court approved, you'll be better off. You can be all the Dad the kid needs.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:57:28 PM EST
Don't do it! Keep their fucking licenses suspended. Keep that monkey on their back forever!
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:58:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/14/2013 7:00:01 PM EST by 1Andy2]
Make a copy and forward it to your representative in the State legislature attached to a letter asking him why your State needs a child support bureau.

That might sound a little bridge-burny... but hey, they've basically just said they're not going to bust ass to enforce the order.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 6:59:18 PM EST
Tell her to go fuck herself, and that her boyfriend has to pay no matter what.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:00:12 PM EST
Pics of step daughters mother?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:01:55 PM EST
Had a guy who worked for me sign his off because he knew he'd never get it.


It costed him his second marriage and now she went back and got visitation rights again.



Never, ever do it. He's out 20+ grand, still has to give her visitation rights even though she's a druggie stripper.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:03:42 PM EST
Many possibilities , Don't drop it and document everything . from politically well connected to the state does not think they can collect . Remember the state has a financial interest in many of these cases. Also in some states employees are "graded" based one success of cases. They may be trying to look good for the end of the year . My experiences with my ex wife and the state are they represent pure incompetence.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:04:12 PM EST
Do not close the case. Hound the deadbeat piece of shit to his grave. If he gets a paycheck, you want your share. If he gets an inheritance, you want your share. If he wins a law suit, you want your share. If he wins the lottery, you want your share.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:05:08 PM EST
For once, the government is working on your side. Don't give them the sign off. You'll regret it later.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:07:04 PM EST
I didnt think they ever gave up.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:08:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By Sparky:
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?
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Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:13:15 PM EST
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Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF
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Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By Sparky:
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?


Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF


fuck
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Originally Posted By mysticookiebear:
Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By Sparky:
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?


Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF


fuck



I'd go to jail for fucking homicide.


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Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:19:59 PM EST
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I'd go to jail for fucking homicide.


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Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By Sparky:
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?


Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF


fuck



I'd go to jail for fucking homicide.


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Then you need to learn how to not get caught.
SSS
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:24:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By ReconB4:


Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF
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Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By Sparky:
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?


Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF



My buddy has paid child support for his daughter that lives with him for the past two and a half years! Those mother fuckers at child support have made it near impossible for him to make a living. If he didn't have a good friend renting a room in his house he'd be homeless. They rake that much money out of his checks! For a child that lives with him!!!!

If you have a dick CS will fuck you one way or the other.

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:26:07 PM EST
Drop nothing. Fuck that. Bet they aren't encouraging any women to drop any cases.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:30:26 PM EST
Fuck child support and everyone who demands it.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:31:41 PM EST
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Drop nothing. Fuck that. Bet they aren't encouraging any women to drop any cases.
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Fuck no they aint! Child support and Social Services is run by feminazi cunts. Sprinkled with a few man hating dykes tossed in for good measure.




Sparky don't drop shit. Keep their feet to the fire.

Some cunt at SS found out they are helping a man and decided that its like dividing by zero. So they are hoping to get you to drop your case so they can say they are still fucking a man. One way or the other.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:32:18 PM EST
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My buddy has paid child support for his daughter that lives with him for the past two and a half years! Those mother fuckers at child support have made it near impossible for him to make a living. If he didn't have a good friend renting a room in his house he'd be homeless. They rake that much money out of his checks! For a child that lives with him!!!!

If you have a dick CS will fuck you one way or the other.

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Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By ReconB4:
Originally Posted By Sparky:
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?


Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF



My buddy has paid child support for his daughter that lives with him for the past two and a half years! Those mother fuckers at child support have made it near impossible for him to make a living. If he didn't have a good friend renting a room in his house he'd be homeless. They rake that much money out of his checks! For a child that lives with him!!!!

If you have a dick CS will fuck you one way or the other.


he may be paying "back child support"........
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:35:00 PM EST
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Umm no. He isn't.

I have been helping him financially on and off for a while being he is a good friend. He has had to get a lawyer who knows the ropes to work on fixing the bs.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:36:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By gjg:
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Not necessarily. You can be charged even if you have primary custody, if you make whatever the court deems is "sufficiently more than" the other parent to "warrant it".

Ask me how I fucking know.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:36:55 PM EST
You need to drop the case so the state can pay for more needy people. You need to quit being so damn selfish. There are democratic single mothers out there with five handicapped children who don't want to work and you are hogging up the resources they need.

How is society supposed to progress when people like you are clogging up the system that is supposed to benefit people who have no intentions of ever being productive?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:38:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
Do not close the case. Hound the deadbeat piece of shit to his grave. If he gets a paycheck, you want your share. If he gets an inheritance, you want your share. If he wins a law suit, you want your share. If he wins the lottery, you want your share.
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Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? Fuck you, pay me."
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:41:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:


Not necessarily. You can be charged even if you have primary custody, if you make whatever the court deems is "sufficiently more than" the other parent to "warrant it".

Ask me how I fucking know.
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Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By gjg:
he may be paying "back child support"........


Not necessarily. You can be charged even if you have primary custody, if you make whatever the court deems is "sufficiently more than" the other parent to "warrant it".

Ask me how I fucking know.



I have had the opportunity to read some of his correspondence with the feminazi case worker of his. She basically says they are going to milk him until he either gets sole custody of her. Or gets a lawyer.

Which I don't understand as his ex has lost custody of all three of her boys (not his) to the state for being a piss poor mother, and his daughter almost got put in state custody but was released to him instead.

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:42:36 PM EST
Originally Posted By Sparky:
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?
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Why the hell would you?

"some woman at child support enforcement" - close your case because you "will never see any money"…

WTF is that? Her opinion?!? Sorry, but your attorney's opinion matters more.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:42:41 PM EST
Unless you need the money drop it.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:43:12 PM EST
Don't drop it. The hell with this deadbeat dad.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:47:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Renata:
Don't drop it. The hell with this deadbeat dad.
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So you and a few others in here have this guy all figured out, huh? You know the situation and can safely conclude he's a "deadbeat dad"? It's a fun phrase to parrot, isn't it?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:51:14 PM EST
You do not drop that shit...NOW OR EVER. They'd lock you up if you didn't pay---his ass needs to pay. Period.

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:51:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:


So you and a few others in here have this guy all figured out, huh? You know the situation and can safely conclude he's a "deadbeat dad"? It's a fun phrase to parrot, isn't it?
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Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By Renata:
Don't drop it. The hell with this deadbeat dad.


So you and a few others in here have this guy all figured out, huh? You know the situation and can safely conclude he's a "deadbeat dad"? It's a fun phrase to parrot, isn't it?


If he is such a great father, then where is he?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:59:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MT_Mauser:


If he is such a great father, then where is he?
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Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By Renata:
Don't drop it. The hell with this deadbeat dad.


So you and a few others in here have this guy all figured out, huh? You know the situation and can safely conclude he's a "deadbeat dad"? It's a fun phrase to parrot, isn't it?


If he is such a great father, then where is he?



Zing!


Link Posted: 12/14/2013 7:59:56 PM EST
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I have had the opportunity to read some of his correspondence with the feminazi case worker of his. She basically says they are going to milk him until he either gets sole custody of her. Or gets a lawyer.

Which I don't understand as his ex has lost custody of all three of her boys (not his) to the state for being a piss poor mother, and his daughter almost got put in state custody but was released to him instead.

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Originally Posted By Goodn:
Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By gjg:
he may be paying "back child support"........


Not necessarily. You can be charged even if you have primary custody, if you make whatever the court deems is "sufficiently more than" the other parent to "warrant it".

Ask me how I fucking know.



I have had the opportunity to read some of his correspondence with the feminazi case worker of his. She basically says they are going to milk him until he either gets sole custody of her. Or gets a lawyer.

Which I don't understand as his ex has lost custody of all three of her boys (not his) to the state for being a piss poor mother, and his daughter almost got put in state custody but was released to him instead.



So who is getting the money that he is being forced to pay? The worthless mother or does the state get it? What happens when he gets sole custody or a lawyer? Does he get his money back? Ok, this last question I know the answer is "no". What about the rest?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 8:02:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MT_Mauser:


If he is such a great father, then where is he?
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Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By Renata:
Don't drop it. The hell with this deadbeat dad.


So you and a few others in here have this guy all figured out, huh? You know the situation and can safely conclude he's a "deadbeat dad"? It's a fun phrase to parrot, isn't it?


If he is such a great father, then where is he?


Not knowing what the situation is I will refrain from judging him.

There are three sides to ever story.

Yours, mine, and the truth.

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 8:03:19 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2:
Make a copy and forward it to your representative in the State legislature attached to a letter asking him why your State needs a child support bureau.

That might sound a little bridge-burny... but hey, they've basically just said they're not going to bust ass to enforce the order.
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lol

I see someone has never tried collecting money from a deadbeat. Blood from a stone, bro.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 8:09:05 PM EST
Every state I have had the pleasure of dealing with Child Support Enforcement has threatened to go out of their way to destroy the lives of any father who would not pay child support. Those state divisions makes the IRS look like a bunch of pussies.

So I am having a hard time believing any support agency would ever ask somebody to drop the case. Honestly, that blows my fucking mind. Once a court order is in place, the only way to get out of it is pretty much death.
I understand there are multiple sides to every story, but, holy shit things have to be bad to not go after somebody. I know guys making below poverty level incomes and are also on food stamps who still have to pay support. Damn.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 8:09:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 3O8junkie:


Not knowing what the situation is I will refrain from judging him.

There are three sides to ever story.

Yours, mine, and the truth.

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Originally Posted By MT_Mauser:
Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By Renata:
Don't drop it. The hell with this deadbeat dad.


So you and a few others in here have this guy all figured out, huh? You know the situation and can safely conclude he's a "deadbeat dad"? It's a fun phrase to parrot, isn't it?


If he is such a great father, then where is he?


Not knowing what the situation is I will refrain from judging him.

There are three sides to ever story.

Yours, mine, and the truth.



You are absolutely right. But actions speak louder than words.

There are people who manage to be a father somehow from across the world, from a hospital bed or even from a war zone- in every condition in every hardship.

So I guess he must have one hell of a story eh?

Link Posted: 12/14/2013 8:14:10 PM EST
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This whole thread reminds me why we are doomed.

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"For the children, for the children... the state will help you."

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I have no opinion regarding OP's initial question.
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 8:20:21 PM EST
Are you certain this email is actually from who it says it's from? From what I understand it's not THAT hard to spoof an email's "from" field. What's the chance this is actually the father trying to get you to drop the case?
Link Posted: 12/14/2013 8:26:00 PM EST
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This whole thread reminds me why we are doomed.

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It sure as fuck does.
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Originally Posted By ReconB4:


Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF
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Originally Posted By Sparky:
I am supposed to be getting child support from my 2 step daughters father. I get an email from some woman at child support enforcement asking me if I just want to close my case because I will never see any money. Why the hell would I do that?


Really? Why the fuck can't that happen to me? I'm tired of their bullshit. I don't know how many times I've been screwed by them. When I was still new to the game I payed double, thinking I could get ahead, I was away on my first deployment to Iraq. Did it for damn near 15 months. When I got back I was informed that I hadn't paid for over a year, even though my LES showed I did. They didn't give a shit. I had to pay a one year lump sum or go to jail. Fuck child support. Now my kid doesn't even live with his FSA mother and I'm still paying and he lived with me and I still payed then too. WTF


A similar thing happened to a friend of mine, he paid his child support and the state said there was no record of it. His ex came to court with him and testified that she'd been paid. He still almost went to jail. The judge flat out told him it didn't matter if he paid it or not.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 1:30:56 AM EST
I have no confidence in the child support agency, when I was paying it for my daughter they were the most lazy, unorganized, didn't have a clue people I have ever talked to, fine examples of public employees.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:31:20 AM EST
The child support agency does not work for you. They work for themselves and their main goal is the expansion of the agency's power and authority. If you can help them do that, you are their friend, if not, you're their enemy. Find a good lawyer who does child custody and support work, offer to pay their hourly rate for an hour and ask questions for an hour. Some of the horror stories in this thread are the result of people not seeking legal advice when they were setting their child support or making payment arrangements for it.

Child Support is not like a car payment or any other debtor-creditor system. There are many pitfalls and traps for people who aren't knowledgeable about the system. There are many things about it that are counter-intuitive and seemingly "too unfair" to exist in any legal system based on principles of justice and fairness. The child support agency does not work for you. Hire someone who does.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:35:40 AM EST


She sounds lazy.


Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:43:08 AM EST
Do not drop it.
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I have had the opportunity to read some of his correspondence with the feminazi case worker of his. She basically says they are going to milk him until he either gets sole custody of her. Or gets a lawyer.

Which I don't understand as his ex has lost custody of all three of her boys (not his) to the state for being a piss poor mother, and his daughter almost got put in state custody but was released to him instead.

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Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By gjg:
he may be paying "back child support"........


Not necessarily. You can be charged even if you have primary custody, if you make whatever the court deems is "sufficiently more than" the other parent to "warrant it".

Ask me how I fucking know.



I have had the opportunity to read some of his correspondence with the feminazi case worker of his. She basically says they are going to milk him until he either gets sole custody of her. Or gets a lawyer.

Which I don't understand as his ex has lost custody of all three of her boys (not his) to the state for being a piss poor mother, and his daughter almost got put in state custody but was released to him instead.


You want us to feel outrage for this guy who screwed a whore, then got screwed by the system?
When I see situations like this, it usually points to an antagonistic ass, who has pissed off everyone around him.
I bet money there are important details you are leaving out of this little love fest.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:47:56 AM EST
excuse me for asking but why are you getting money from your step daughters father? are you the ex wife? or do you mean your ex wife is getting or asking for the support? is your income included in determining the amount? some states they don't count the new spouses income. If you are doing well and the ex isn't why are you even spending your time worrying about it. drop it and move on.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:48:27 AM EST
Did the courts order the CS?

Either way, get a lawyer, ASAP.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:54:56 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
Do not close the case. Hound the deadbeat piece of shit to his grave. If he gets a paycheck, you want your share. If he gets an inheritance, you want your share. If he wins a law suit, you want your share. If he wins the lottery, you want your share.
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This is the shit that gets me. It not his share.
Link Posted: 12/15/2013 2:55:36 AM EST
I've always bee amazed that CS offices don't look like a fortress under siege with all the fucked-over irate child support payers I read about here and in other threads.
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