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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:44:49 AM EDT
Apparently gunpowder direct fire weapons were all the rage back then facilitating these newfangled star forts since old school castles just couldn't keep up.
I really just wanted an excuse to post cool pictures![not mine] 
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Posted: 10/25/2013 12:17:11 PM EDT
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very cool... what are each of those locations?
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Posted: 10/25/2013 12:27:09 PM EDT
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I always liked this one!
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Posted: 10/25/2013 12:29:26 PM EDT
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Vauban
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Posted: 10/25/2013 12:34:04 PM EDT
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Cool photos, OP. Did you know that your photobucket account is wide open?
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Posted: 10/25/2013 12:49:55 PM EDT
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Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 12:55:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2013 12:56:05 PM EDT
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starfish
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:02:51 PM EDT
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“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.” General George S. Patton , Jr. USA
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:06:52 PM EDT
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Aren't they pretty much why howitzers and mortars were invented?
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:10:03 PM EDT
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I thought this thread would be about this:
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:10:16 PM EDT
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The one in the upper left is Ft. Bourtange in the Netherlands.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:13:09 PM EDT
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DUPE.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:13:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:15:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe presence of these two threads at the same time has been very confusing to me.  |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:18:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:19:41 PM EDT
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Lol. Quote Historyha…i just came here to do the same thing |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:25:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:27:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Glad I'm not the only lysdexic one here
Quote HistoryMe too
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:28:04 PM EDT
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Well, looks like this thread has already hit crash mode.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:31:43 PM EDT
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Was just at this one last month. Very interesting. Kinsale, Ireland |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:31:51 PM EDT
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Castle Island (Boston,Ma)
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:34:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That Dutch fort is one of those you'd have to starve out. I don't think it was ever captured. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:36:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The presence of these two threads at the same time has been very confusing to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Same here. I thought one was a parody of the other: 
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:36:38 PM EDT
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Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. Don't forget the fort around the fort around the fort. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:40:10 PM EDT
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I like how this thread is side by side with the STORE FARTS thread.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:42:24 PM EDT
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I like how this thread is side by side with the STORE FARTS thread. Yep. Let's keep em both at the top as long as we can!
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:42:44 PM EDT
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“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.” General George S. Patton , Jr. USA Yet the Westwall held him up for over a month. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:43:33 PM EDT
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OOPS
Thought this was the Store Farts thread.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:43:40 PM EDT
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Store farts
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:47:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't forget the fort around the fort around the fort. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. Don't forget the fort around the fort around the fort. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:50:13 PM EDT
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Cool photos, OP. Did you know that your photobucket account is wide open? I did not, I may have to change that. Also, this thread has almost gone full retard!
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:51:13 PM EDT
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“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.” General George S. Patton , Jr. USA They were pretty handy before smokeless powder came along. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:52:14 PM EDT
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I did not, I may have to change that. Also, this thread has almost gone full retard! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cool photos, OP. Did you know that your photobucket account is wide open? I did not, I may have to change that. Also, this thread has almost gone full retard! It started good, but it's now well on it's way to becoming a poop thread.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:54:05 PM EDT
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Fort Morgan, Alabama
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:54:07 PM EDT
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this thread is stinky cool
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:54:28 PM EDT
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double tap
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:54:52 PM EDT
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How many farts could a star fort store if a star fort could store farts?
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Posted: 10/25/2013 1:56:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/25/2013 2:01:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI think there might be a lack of star forts in the US because of how late in that period we started fortifying. I think we might have more polygonal forts but I'm no expert... |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 2:02:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.” General George S. Patton , Jr. USA yeah. because it was much easier to put 18th century cities on wheels and pull them with oxen.  |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 2:03:42 PM EDT
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Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Actually, during the U.S. Civil War, it was rifled artillery that made coastal masonry fortifications obsolete. Fort Pulaski much? |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 2:42:13 PM EDT
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Actually, during the U.S. Civil War, it was rifled artillery that made coastal masonry fortifications obsolete. Fort Pulaski much? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Actually, during the U.S. Civil War, it was rifled artillery that made coastal masonry fortifications obsolete. Fort Pulaski much? Agree, but it doesn't explain why Sumter didn't fall. Quincy Gillmore established his fame as the conqueror of Fort Pulaski. He was then selected to capture Fort Sumter which was the lock that guarded the entrance to Charleston Harbor. The key was Morris Island which, after a two month siege, was captured. Even then, he couldn't take Fort Sumter. Sumter was pounded to rubble but the Confederates didn't evacuate until after Sherman approached from the South. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 2:59:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree, but it doesn't explain why Sumter didn't fall. Quincy Gillmore established his fame as the conqueror of Fort Pulaski. He was then selected to capture Fort Sumter which was the lock that guarded the entrance to Charleston Harbor. The key was Morris Island which, after a two month siege, was captured. Even then, he couldn't take Fort Sumter. Sumter was pounded to rubble but the Confederates didn't evacuate until after Sherman approached from the South. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Actually, during the U.S. Civil War, it was rifled artillery that made coastal masonry fortifications obsolete. Fort Pulaski much? Agree, but it doesn't explain why Sumter didn't fall. Quincy Gillmore established his fame as the conqueror of Fort Pulaski. He was then selected to capture Fort Sumter which was the lock that guarded the entrance to Charleston Harbor. The key was Morris Island which, after a two month siege, was captured. Even then, he couldn't take Fort Sumter. Sumter was pounded to rubble but the Confederates didn't evacuate until after Sherman approached from the South. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 3:09:20 PM EDT
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Yet the Westwall held him up for over a month. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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“Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man.” General George S. Patton , Jr. USA Yet the Westwall held him up for over a month. That was without sufficient Air power (climate) and with insufficient logistical support. Had Patton been given the logistical support lavished on Monty's failed Arnhem scheme, Patton probably could have been into Germany' guts in August-Sept '44. At least Patton thought so, and some others agree. As it was, Patton was forced to fight the slogging type of battle that he detested. Even so, he did not waste the lives of his troops like Bradley did in the Huertgen Forest, or in the Battle of the Bulge. Nor did he waste an enormous amount of time, and troops clearing the approaches to Antwerp, as did Monty. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 3:27:53 PM EDT
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I always liked this one! That's Arf-Land! |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 3:32:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Excellent defense against direct fire & infantry attack. Not so good against airpower. But an infantry officer's nightmare still, if properly manned, I should think. Just do what Caesar did to Vercingetorix and build a fort around the fort. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 3:37:18 PM EDT
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Castillo De San Marcos, St. Augustine, FL
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Posted: 10/25/2013 3:40:30 PM EDT
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My personal favorite: The Citadel in Halifax. Until bombers came along, this fortress stood guard over one of the most perfect harbors on earth.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 3:47:28 PM EDT
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Fort Monroe, Virginia. I still can't believe we gave it up. If the Navy can have a wooden sailing ship, why can't the Army have a masonry star fort?
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